Is it okay to update the map without any additional patch?

[MysteryMaze]

Haven't been active for the last few months,
I found that many of my maps are left far behind.

So is it okay to renew them just to create more views?
It has been over 4 months since the latest update.


Lost In Paradise

Paucity


I personally have nothing more to change or to update,
but it is such a pity to leave them as they are.

 

[deepstrasz]

I'm not OK with that but thing is who's gonna check to see if you actually did update the map even with a small detail?
A lot, I guess most, people do that, sadly.

 

[MysteryMaze]

I'm not OK with that but thing is who's gonna check to see if you actually did update the map even with a small detail?
A lot, I guess most, people do that, sadly.

You are very right.

Hmmm I don't know what to do with my old map
when I have nothing to change.

Maybe delete one tree and update it haha!

joke.

 

[Zwiebelchen]

Why do you care about views anyway? The only thing that matters is people actually hosting and playing the map - and updating won't do shit in that regard, especially when you didn't change anything.

And tbh, I don't know what's the big deal here anyway. For simple ladder maps, your contributions have pretty decent download rates.

 

[deepstrasz]

And tbh, I don't know what's the big deal here anyway.

The fact that a map gets far behind in a list when others are regularly updated (especially to be on the first page). He thinks that people usually look at the first page(s) and that's the way to have your maps visible to the players.

 

[Ralle]

If you ask me, the answer will be no.

Update the map, start using World Editor Extended. Make worthwhile updates. That's the only way.

 

[Rufus]

Just an idea: You can create more melee maps and put them all in a bundle, called "MysteryMaze's Amazing Mapz". Then you can update it everytime you create a new melee map, and your old ones will get viewed aswell.
Update the decription to match the latest map, and put old descriptions for old maps in hidden tags.

 

[Ralle]

Except resources should only be in a bundle if it makes sense. It can't just be X's maps. It has to be multiple versions of the same map, resources of the same genre or something like that.

 

[MysteryMaze]

So it looks like I cannot put different maps in one bundle but only different versions of the same map.
Am I getting things clear?

 

[deepstrasz]

So it looks like I cannot put different maps in one bundle but only different versions of the same map.
Am I getting things clear?

No. That's silly.
Take this as an example: this guy has got many maps uploaded separately but the triggers and data are the same for each (WoT - Frozen Isles) while this person has packed/bundled them for ease of use and order (Pack 10 Races Maps v1.4a).

 

[MysteryMaze]

No. That's silly.
Take this as an example: this guy has got many maps uploaded separately but the triggers and data are the same for each (WoT - Frozen Isles) while this person has packed/bundled them for ease of use and order (Pack 10 Races Maps v1.4a).

I kind of get it. In my case it would be okay because all my resources are of the same genre. Maybe I should consider that..

Maybe like this??

Blood Raven's Melee Map Pack

 

[Rufus]

To upload your melee maps in a pack is 100% by the rules, but the section is not very well-visited, sadly.

 

[MysteryMaze]

To upload your melee maps in a pack is 100% by the rules, but the section is not very well-visited, sadly.

I can feel the popularity of melee maps declining at a radical speed. Last year when I uploaded a map, it got an average view of more than 900 but now somewhere around 500. Really sad.

 

[Rufus]

I wouldn't say that's people being less interested in melee, but rather that a lot more people upload and update their maps nowadays, thus pushing your map down the list.
It was a significant difference from when I started as a map moderator till I quit, I must say.

 

[deepstrasz]

I can feel the popularity of melee maps declining at a radical speed.

You could promote them over Youtube recording matches or doing a showcase of each (different videos to be considered).

 

[MysteryMaze]

I wouldn't say that's people being less interested in melee, but rather that a lot more people upload and update their maps nowadays, thus pushing your map down the list.
It was a significant difference from when I started as a map moderator till I quit, I must say.

Yes, you are right. I think it has to do with maps section change. Since all maps(substandard/approved/pending) got displayed on the same page, maps disappear to the next page more quickly.

You could promote them over Youtube recording matches or doing a showcase of each (different videos to be considered).

I suck at recording videos haha!

 

[Ralle]

I kind of get it. In my case it would be okay because all my resources are of the same genre. Maybe I should consider that..

Maybe like this??

Blood Raven's Melee Map Pack

Matching genre, yes.

No. That's silly.
Take this as an example: this guy has got many maps uploaded separately but the triggers and data are the same for each (WoT - Frozen Isles) while this person has packed/bundled them for ease of use and order (Pack 10 Races Maps v1.4a).

Yes.

 

[Map Designer]

Haven't been active for the last few months,
I found that many of my maps are left far behind.

So is it okay to renew them just to create more views?
It has been over 4 months since the latest update.


Lost In Paradise

Paucity


I personally have nothing more to change or to update,
but it is such a pity to leave them as they are.

I have a better plan for you; why don't you actually update it with slight and minor changes here and there?

Just have a to-do list for your map, and pick up a random point to implement from the to-do list. I have actually been updating my map quite a lot when I first released it, something like everyweek or even everyday update with minor changes and bug fixes.

It doesnt hurt, and it's "ethical"

I'm not OK with that but thing is who's gonna check to see if you actually did update the map even with a small detail?
A lot, I guess most, people do that, sadly.

When actually there is no changelog, I would notice

 

[Kazeon]

Hey, sorry to bring up this thread again. But I just updated my map with some major changes, yet the thread didn't get bumped. I think it's kind of meaningless to bring an important update without the thread getting bumped. Meanwhile, my other resource got bumped whereas I only changed the description a bit. Things didn't work this way in Hive 1 afaik, and I think it was better.

Anyway, what's the span delay between each update for the thread to get bumped?

 

[deepstrasz]

Anyway, what's the span delay between each update for the thread to get bumped?

14 days, I think. The thing is, without this limit, everyone would be abusing the update button to keep their map on the first page...

 

[Ralle]

Yeah 14 days.

 

[Kazeon]

14 days from the last time it's get bumped or from the last update? If I always update the map within every less than 14 days, does it mean it will never get bumped? Just asking.

 

[Rufus]

From last time it was bumped.

 

[Ralle]

If I always update the map within every less than 14 days, does it mean it will never get bumped? Just asking.

I paid close attention to this and I believe you will not be penalised for updating more often but the next update occurring within 14 days of the last will bump it.

 

[Map Designer]

hmmm

I never knew about the 14 days cap. is that a new thing or has it been there since forever? (Im talking 5-6 years ago)

 

[Ralle]

Forever.