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Hello Hive Workshop!
I am in the middle of creating my first map, every time I near completion, a new idea pops up into my head to make the game less like normal WCIII, but rather an improved version so the player still feels like they are playing WCIII and not something else. However this is proving to be very time consuming and delaying my map release for testing (which I am very excited to do). I have already spent a good 3 months on this map and cannot believe how much there is still left to do!
My newest idea (which is taking me a lot of research to do but I know its possible and people over on the World Editor Help Zone like Licheus and Wareditor have given me pointers to make them possible) is to give Hero abilities increased damage based on a certain stat on top of their base damage. I like this idea as it makes tomes and permanent items more enticing, and gives more value to a hero's level up.
In addition, I have a mechanic called "Limit Break". What this does is after a certain number of times the spell is cast, it becomes slightly stronger. (For now there is no limit to how strong). The increase in spell power or other bonuses is not large enough to make the spell vastly over powered but it adds some more "OOMPH" to the spells.
The reason I have these mechanics is that I hated the idea that a level 5 hero does as much damage with a certain spell as a level 10 hero. That never made any sense to me and so I thought I would address that in this 3v3 custom game/altered melee I'm making.
These new mechanics are far from the only things I have in store on this map. But for now they are most pressing to me as I would like to know if it is too much or unessesary, or is it a good idea.
Let me know if you think my idea for these abilities is a nice idea or is it too much. Perhaps any potential problems or exploits as well. I intend to make each game last at least 45 minutes to 1.5 hours as these additional mechanics really shine in the late game as you might imagine.
I should also note that the benefits are increased with each level, so using Arcane Blast as an example:
Level 1 - Every point of intelligence gives 1 bonus damage, every 10 casts increases base damage by 20
Level 2 - Every point of intelligence gives 2 bonus damage, every 10 casts increases base damage by 35
Level 3 - Every point of intelligence gives 3 bonus damage, every 10 casts increases base damage by 50
Lets put that into perspective:
At level 10, Jaina Proudmoore (Arcane Mage) Has 50 base Intellect.
Lets say she casts the spell around 30 times before she hit level 10.
Level 3 Arcane Blast will deal 450 base damage + 150 bonus damage from int + 150 bonus damage from 3 limit breaks. So she will deal a whopping 750 damage per arcane blast, not including benefits from tomes and items!
The exact numbers for all spells will be displayed in the regular spell tooltips. A generic indicator is given in the tooltip - learn pane as you can see in the screen shots.
The damage may seem high but it is only for this spell as the Arcane Mage in my map is a glass cannon type of Hero. As you will see in the screen shots she has 450 hit points and 1 armor at level 1!
Anyway,
Thanks as always, Hive.
P.S. Sorry for the long winded life story essay but I felt that I needed to give a little background.
Here are some screen shots of what the ability tooltips look like:
I am in the middle of creating my first map, every time I near completion, a new idea pops up into my head to make the game less like normal WCIII, but rather an improved version so the player still feels like they are playing WCIII and not something else. However this is proving to be very time consuming and delaying my map release for testing (which I am very excited to do). I have already spent a good 3 months on this map and cannot believe how much there is still left to do!
My newest idea (which is taking me a lot of research to do but I know its possible and people over on the World Editor Help Zone like Licheus and Wareditor have given me pointers to make them possible) is to give Hero abilities increased damage based on a certain stat on top of their base damage. I like this idea as it makes tomes and permanent items more enticing, and gives more value to a hero's level up.
In addition, I have a mechanic called "Limit Break". What this does is after a certain number of times the spell is cast, it becomes slightly stronger. (For now there is no limit to how strong). The increase in spell power or other bonuses is not large enough to make the spell vastly over powered but it adds some more "OOMPH" to the spells.
The reason I have these mechanics is that I hated the idea that a level 5 hero does as much damage with a certain spell as a level 10 hero. That never made any sense to me and so I thought I would address that in this 3v3 custom game/altered melee I'm making.
These new mechanics are far from the only things I have in store on this map. But for now they are most pressing to me as I would like to know if it is too much or unessesary, or is it a good idea.
Let me know if you think my idea for these abilities is a nice idea or is it too much. Perhaps any potential problems or exploits as well. I intend to make each game last at least 45 minutes to 1.5 hours as these additional mechanics really shine in the late game as you might imagine.
I should also note that the benefits are increased with each level, so using Arcane Blast as an example:
Level 1 - Every point of intelligence gives 1 bonus damage, every 10 casts increases base damage by 20
Level 2 - Every point of intelligence gives 2 bonus damage, every 10 casts increases base damage by 35
Level 3 - Every point of intelligence gives 3 bonus damage, every 10 casts increases base damage by 50
Lets put that into perspective:
At level 10, Jaina Proudmoore (Arcane Mage) Has 50 base Intellect.
Lets say she casts the spell around 30 times before she hit level 10.
Level 3 Arcane Blast will deal 450 base damage + 150 bonus damage from int + 150 bonus damage from 3 limit breaks. So she will deal a whopping 750 damage per arcane blast, not including benefits from tomes and items!
The exact numbers for all spells will be displayed in the regular spell tooltips. A generic indicator is given in the tooltip - learn pane as you can see in the screen shots.
The damage may seem high but it is only for this spell as the Arcane Mage in my map is a glass cannon type of Hero. As you will see in the screen shots she has 450 hit points and 1 armor at level 1!
Anyway,
Thanks as always, Hive.
P.S. Sorry for the long winded life story essay but I felt that I needed to give a little background.
Here are some screen shots of what the ability tooltips look like:
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