Increase/Decrease Armor

[Chizume]

Greetings,

I'd like to find a way to be able to both increase and decrease the base armor of a unit using triggers (GUI preferred).

I have tried two methods I know of yet and didn't like them:

1. Upgrade - "Apply Defense Upgrade Bonus". Can't be decreased.
2. Ability - "Armor Bonus". Will show as a green +1. Does not stack.

Help would be very appreciated. Thanks.

Yours Sincerely,
Chizume

 

[Kala]

Can decrease with upgrade. Hold SHIFT down when entering values

 

[CoolSoFar]

if what you want is GUI, I don't have any idea...

Ability and Upgrade is all there's for GUI, if there's other option I might tell you to either use Tome but 'there's no tome for armor' and 'you say unit not a hero', any others most likely will show as a green...
might as well use upgrade, but then you can only increase not decrease or decrease not increase...
either use ability or give it up and use JASS

well, you can always wait for other answer

 

[CoolSoFar]

Can decrease with upgrade. Hold SHIFT down when entering values

he want to do BOTH in one unit. with upgrade it's either just increasing/decreasing

 

[darwin]

I used Devotion Aura, applied it only to the self, then gave it 10 levels. level 1 gave no armor bonus, level 2 set armor to -1, level 3 set armor to -2, etc.

You could use the regular upgrades to increase armor and devotion aura to decrease armor.

Or you could make level 1: -4, level 2: -3, level 3: -2, level 4: -1, level 5: 0, level 6: +1, etc., use triggers to keep track of where the armor should put and set the ability to the appropriate level.

 

[Boneknight]

just make armor bonus thing and set levels like 10 levels for each 1 armor and the trought triggers set level of the ability to desired armor bonus

 

[Chizume]

Thanks for all replies

Or you could make level 1: -4, level 2: -3, level 3: -2, level 4: -1, level 5: 0, level 6: +1, etc., use triggers to keep track of where the armor should put and set the ability to the appropriate level.

Isn't the armor increased/decreased for "Apply Defense Upgrade Bonus" set at the unit object data and can only be one value? Or is there another Armor Bonus Upgrade? Other than that this seems like the best solution.

You could use the regular upgrades to increase armor and devotion aura to decrease armor.

Would this show -1?

 

[Dr Super Good]

You can alter unit and hero armor by morphing between hero and non-hero.

However this might result in a crash.

 

[darwin]

Thanks for all replies

Isn't the armor increased/decreased for "Apply Defense Upgrade Bonus" set at the unit object data and can only be one value? Or is there another Armor Bonus Upgrade? Other than that this seems like the best solution.

Would this show -1?

If you use the devotion aura idea, your armor will always look like this: 5 -2, or something like that. So there will be your "default" armor and then the modifier.

Perhaps you could give more detail about what you want to do and we could be more helpful with the cosmetics. But if you just want to be able to move armor up and down, having a devotion aura ability set to the self with both positive and negative values will do it. If you're worried about the color; I'm not sure if it works or not... You can fix it though. For positive levels of devotion aura use the regular buff; for negative use a different buff and manually put the color change into the text name of the ability.

 

[Datnes]

I used Devotion Aura, applied it only to the self, then gave it 10 levels. level 1 gave no armor bonus, level 2 set armor to -1, level 3 set armor to -2, etc.

You could use the regular upgrades to increase armor and devotion aura to decrease armor.

Or you could make level 1: -4, level 2: -3, level 3: -2, level 4: -1, level 5: 0, level 6: +1, etc., use triggers to keep track of where the armor should put and set the ability to the appropriate level.

I have problem with decreasing armor too..
I don't know why, but i can't set value less than 0.00 in Devotion aura, when I write -X and press ok, the value is changed to 0.00.

 

[Vortigon]

did you allowed the negative values in the Object Editor?

File / Preferences / General / Allow negatives values in the Objects Editor.

 

[-Kobas-]

I have problem with decreasing armor too..
I don't know why, but i can't set value less than 0.00 in Devotion aura, when I write -X and press ok, the value is changed to 0.00.

Wrong!
Use "Shift" button!

Press Shift and Enter at selected field, now you can enter neg number for anything!

You can create:
Neg hp/mana regeneration (phoenix for example)
Spell mana cost above 1000
Hero attribute gain per level (above 20)
And so on!

 

[Lich Prince]

Shift + Enter / Double Click.

 

[Garfield1337]

Try using an upgrade that "increases" the armor by negative value when you want armor decreased. I didn't test it,however.

EDIT: I just noticed Kala has suggested it...

 

[ap0calypse]

You can only change the defense of a unit by it's "Defense upgrade bonus", thus you cannot have an upgrade that can both decrease and increase the armor.
Another downside is that you cannot undo a research (once researched, it can never be unresearched).

Either way, I would use 2 armor abilities (one which decreases the armor, the other increases armor).
Both have... let's say 100 levels and always add +1/-1.
YES: it shows as [armor] + [value] instead of adding it to the base armor.
Another stupid thing: you cannot auto-fill negative values, thus it can take a while (depending on how much you need)...

I have attached a test-map for you to see.

 

[Chizume]

Yes, for my map I used what Ap0calypse just said, and upgrades. Upgrades for permanent positive enhancements, such as for example a unit leveling up. And ability armor to decrease/increase bonus armor.

Thanks all.

Yours,
Chizume