how can i get opengl working in windows 10

andreasaspenberg · Jan 18, 2018

here is the problem: no games that requires opengl work at all. that incdludes ghost master, doom 3, quake 4 and strangely enough seven kingdoms 2. is there a solution?

HappyTauren · Jan 18, 2018

how is this even possible

andreasaspenberg · Jan 18, 2018

beats me. i have no idea how a system is unable to support opengl but that is not relevant. what is relevant is finding a solution. i have been looking around and i am not the only person unable to get opengl working in windows 10.

chobibo · Jan 22, 2018

Did you install the GPU driver provided by the manufacturer?

LordDz · Jan 22, 2018

Here we go again.

andreasaspenberg · Jan 23, 2018

i updated the driver but then it crashed after i tried to run starcraft 2. i was unble to get it back online after that.

chobibo · Jan 23, 2018

Post screenshots of error messages please, thanks.

andreasaspenberg · Jan 23, 2018

as the pc is no longer working i can not. lacking opengl support is a known issue however.

chobibo · Jan 23, 2018

Looks like you have more problems here and not just OpenGL.

andreasaspenberg · Jan 23, 2018

i know but sooner or later i will get another windows 10 pc which have the same opengl issue. i therefore need a solution anyway. i have one more pc with windows 10 however which is working.

chobibo · Jan 23, 2018

Post back when you have it setup and it doesn't work, preferably with screenshots next time.

andreasaspenberg · Jan 23, 2018

there is no screen shot because when i try to run an opengl game in windows 10 nothing happens.

chobibo · Jan 23, 2018

How did you determine it was an opengl error then?

andreasaspenberg · Jan 23, 2018

difficult to explain. direct 3d games like final fantasy 8 works perfectly(some gpu based glitches but those have been present since windows xp). ghost master uses opengl and does not work, doom 3 and quake 4 only works for about a minute when fully patched so i guess they changed the startup code to include a little direct 3d(worked perfectly in windows 8.1). ghost master is a very compatible game and works in all previous systems.none of the games i have tried that uses opengl works in windows 10.

Abovegame · Jan 23, 2018

andreasaspenberg said:
i updated the driver but then it crashed after i tried to run starcraft 2. i was unble to get it back online after that.

What crashed ? How do you know it crashed ?

andreasaspenberg said:
as the pc is no longer working i can not. lacking opengl support is a known issue however.

What do you mean by no longer working ?

You need to give more info when starting these kind of tech threads so we know what specifically is wrong with your desktop PC.

andreasaspenberg · Jan 23, 2018

it does not matter. that pc have terrible gpu cooling anyway. it is no longer starting up. the opengl issue is what i need help with which is why i created this topic.

eejin · Jan 23, 2018

Post your pc specs. What cpu, gpu, what windows 10 build. If you dont know how to look it up then google it.
If you are getting a new pc then the problem will probably not happen again.

Run this program:
Display Driver Uninstaller Download version 17.0.8.2
Then reinstall your drivers.

And type up a decent response for god's sake. All we got from you until now is a one shit sentence post.

chobibo · Jan 23, 2018

Yep, we really need more info, otherwise we can't help. It probably isn't the 'missing OpenGL features' error, since that is reported by windows...

andreasaspenberg · Jan 23, 2018

the problem happened right away before i updated anything. that means that it will be on a new pc. it is likely on the list of removed features but that is too long for me to read.

eejin · Jan 23, 2018

Do what I said in my post and respond with the info

andreasaspenberg · Jan 23, 2018

i do not have that knowledge yet because i have not yet purchased a replacement pc.

chobibo · Jan 23, 2018

Post back when you encounter the same problem on your new setup.

Dr Super Good · Jan 31, 2018

Windows 10 fully supports OpenGL. That is if the appropriate OpenGL providing driver is installed, usually the driver for a dedicated GPU, since OpenGL is not really part of the OS. Likewise such drivers will usually install the Vulkan APIs, if the hardware supports the API. This applies to Linux as well, since it is the responsibility of the graphic drivers to provide OpenGL support to the system.

Some versions of Windows even come installed with a legacy version of OpenGL. That said this usually will not work for games due to it being software backed and missing most required features.

andreasaspenberg · Jan 31, 2018

i did not need a lecture but a solution. at the moment, no opengl gsmes work on my windows 10 pc.

Dr Super Good · Jan 31, 2018

andreasaspenberg said:
no opengl gsmes work on my windows 10 pc.

Get a modern GPU. Any generics from NVidia or AMD will work. OEM ones for companies like DELL might not work as they often have custom buggy drivers and cannot use the generic drivers.
Update OS. Make sure Windows 10 has all updates installed.
Uninstall the standard graphic driver Windows 10 installed. This is usually buggy or incomplete.
Download and install the latest driver appropriate for your generic graphic card. This will install both OpenGL and Vulkan if the card support it. All modern cards from AMD and NVidia support advanced versions of both.
Enjoy OpenGL. Enjoy Vulkan.

If they still do not work then you must have an impossible to remotely diagnose configuration problem. I could probably fix it in 30 minutes if I could directly interface with the system but it is impossible to solve remotely through forum communications.

andreasaspenberg · Jan 31, 2018

you are wrong about my graphics card. the GPU is gtx 1070. i do not have a generic graphics card available only nvidia geforce gtx 1070. it is a desktop.

Dr Super Good · Feb 1, 2018

andreasaspenberg said:
you are wrong about my graphics card. the GPU is gtx 1070. i do not have a generic graphics card available only nvidia geforce gtx 1070. it is a desktop.

NVidia is a technology company. Other companies buy/licence the designs from NVidia to make the actual physical cards. These are known as generics as they are compatible with the generic driver and generally perform the same between manufacturers. On the other hand some companies buy the designs from NVidia and then make special modifications for specific customers. For example Dell will order special versions of NVidia or AMD cards. These are known as OEM cards and often need OEM drivers, they will not work with the generic drivers and installing the generic drivers on them will be buggy or even crash prone.

andreasaspenberg · Feb 1, 2018

i installed drivers from nvidia and direct 3d games like diablo 3 and starrcraft 2 world perfectly but opengl games like ghost master does not.

Dr Super Good · Feb 1, 2018

Those games must have compatibility problems with Windows 10, likely as a result of bad programming.

andreasaspenberg · Feb 1, 2018

not likely. many peopøe have reported issues with opengl in windows 10. they all use opengl.

HappyTauren · Feb 1, 2018

I have so far used opengl with zero issues. Windows 10 might make my wireless mouse lock up all the time (ty creators update) but graphics work perfectly fine. So graphic bugs don't occur to everyone using opengl.

andreasaspenberg · Feb 1, 2018

maybe your games used direct 3d. what games have you tried?

HappyTauren · Feb 1, 2018

cs:go, DOTA2, L4D2, wc3, SCII, and so on, everything works in both opengl and D3D without any issues.

andreasaspenberg · Feb 1, 2018

warcraft 3 and starcraft 2 uses direct 3d by default(warcraft 3 can be told to use opengl but otherwise uses direct 3d.). i looked into the others and according to wikipedia they are running on the source engine which uses direct 3d in windows.

eejin · Feb 1, 2018

eejin said:
Post your pc specs. What cpu, gpu, what windows 10 build. If you dont know how to look it up then google it.
If you are getting a new pc then the problem will probably not happen again.

Run this program:
Display Driver Uninstaller Download version 17.0.8.2
Then reinstall your drivers.

And type up a decent response for god's sake. All we got from you until now is a one shit sentence post.

andreasaspenberg · Feb 1, 2018

intel core i7-7700 nvidia geforce gtx 1070 and 16 gigabytes of system ram.

Dr Super Good · Feb 1, 2018

andreasaspenberg said:
warcraft 3 and starcraft 2 uses direct 3d by default(warcraft 3 can be told to use opengl but otherwise uses direct 3d.).

So obviously he ordered them to use OpenGL before testing, and they worked perfectly.

WC3 OpenGL works perfectly for me. It used to be the only way to play WC3 on Windows 10 due to compatibility problems with D3D8 that WC3 used to use before 2016.

andreasaspenberg said:
i looked into the others and according to wikipedia they are running on the source engine which uses direct 3d in windows.

DotA 2 supports Vulkan as well, which is by the same people as OpenGL...

HappyTauren · Feb 1, 2018

I was about to post that while those games don't run on opengl by default (at least on windows), you can easily make them to. I originally did this because I had problems with D3D, but as soon as I'd resolved them, I went back to D3D. As it is now, they all work on both D3D and OpenGL.

andreasaspenberg · Feb 1, 2018

i do not think that they acually ran on opengl. it is the same when trying to run on the gtx 770m on my laptop which is not working so stuff instead runs on the HD 4600. in this case however because opengl is not supported the games default to direct 3d because that is the only api supported by windows. ghost master, doom 3 and quake 4 however only supports opengl and will not work without it. i have never had any issues running starcraft 2 or warcraft 3 in windows 10. warcraft 3 can use 2 apis on mac os: software rendering(do not know what apple calls theirs) and opengl.

Dr Super Good · Feb 1, 2018

andreasaspenberg said:
i do not think that they acually ran on opengl.

Warcraft III does. I can post OpenGL intercept logs if you want proof. Here is an extract of a test I did when trying to discover how BLP worked.

Code:

===============================================================================
 GLIntercept version 1.33 Log generated on: Tue Mar 01 05:29:14 2016
 
===============================================================================
wglChoosePixelFormat(35011356,0019FC8C)=7
wglSetPixelFormat(35011356,7,0019FC8C)=true
wglCreateContext(35011356)=00010000
wglMakeCurrent(35011356,00010000)=true
glGetString(GL_VERSION)="4.5.0 NVIDIA 353.82"
glGetString(GL_EXTENSIONS)="GL_AMD_multi_draw_indirec..."
wglGetProcAddress("glLockArraysEXT")=100261B0
wglGetProcAddress("glUnlockArraysEXT")=100261E0
glGetString(GL_EXTENSIONS)="GL_AMD_multi_draw_indirec..."
glGetIntegerv(GL_MAX_TEXTURE_UNITS,01C7C850)
wglGetProcAddress("glMultiTexCoord1dARB")=10026210
wglGetProcAddress("glMultiTexCoord1dvARB")=10026240
wglGetProcAddress("glMultiTexCoord1fARB")=10026270
wglGetProcAddress("glMultiTexCoord1fvARB")=100262A0
wglGetProcAddress("glMultiTexCoord1iARB")=100262D0
wglGetProcAddress("glMultiTexCoord1ivARB")=10026300
wglGetProcAddress("glMultiTexCoord1sARB")=10026330
wglGetProcAddress("glMultiTexCoord1svARB")=10026360
wglGetProcAddress("glMultiTexCoord2dARB")=10026390
wglGetProcAddress("glMultiTexCoord2dvARB")=100263C0
wglGetProcAddress("glMultiTexCoord2fARB")=100263F0
wglGetProcAddress("glMultiTexCoord2fvARB")=10026420
wglGetProcAddress("glMultiTexCoord2iARB")=10026450
wglGetProcAddress("glMultiTexCoord2ivARB")=10026480
wglGetProcAddress("glMultiTexCoord2sARB")=100264B0
wglGetProcAddress("glMultiTexCoord2svARB")=100264E0
wglGetProcAddress("glMultiTexCoord3dARB")=10026510
wglGetProcAddress("glMultiTexCoord3dvARB")=10026540
wglGetProcAddress("glMultiTexCoord3fARB")=10026570
wglGetProcAddress("glMultiTexCoord3fvARB")=100265A0
wglGetProcAddress("glMultiTexCoord3iARB")=100265D0
wglGetProcAddress("glMultiTexCoord3ivARB")=10026600
wglGetProcAddress("glMultiTexCoord3sARB")=10026630
wglGetProcAddress("glMultiTexCoord3svARB")=10026660
wglGetProcAddress("glMultiTexCoord4dARB")=10026690
wglGetProcAddress("glMultiTexCoord4dvARB")=100266C0
wglGetProcAddress("glMultiTexCoord4fARB")=100266F0
wglGetProcAddress("glMultiTexCoord4fvARB")=10026720
wglGetProcAddress("glMultiTexCoord4iARB")=10026750
wglGetProcAddress("glMultiTexCoord4ivARB")=10026780
wglGetProcAddress("glMultiTexCoord4sARB")=100267B0
wglGetProcAddress("glMultiTexCoord4svARB")=100267E0
wglGetProcAddress("glActiveTextureARB")=10026810
wglGetProcAddress("glClientActiveTextureARB")=10026840
glGetString(GL_EXTENSIONS)="GL_AMD_multi_draw_indirec..."
glGetString(GL_EXTENSIONS)="GL_AMD_multi_draw_indirec..."
glMatrixMode(GL_MODELVIEW)
glLoadMatrixf([1.000000,0.000000,-0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,1.000000,-0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,-1.000000,0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,-0.000000,1.000000])
glLightModelfv(GL_LIGHT_MODEL_AMBIENT,0019FC78)
glLightfv(GL_LIGHT0,GL_SPECULAR,0019FC78)
glLightfv(GL_LIGHT0,GL_POSITION,0019FC04)
glDisable(GL_LIGHT0)
glLightfv(GL_LIGHT0,GL_AMBIENT,0019FC04)
glLightfv(GL_LIGHT0,GL_DIFFUSE,0019FC04)
glLightf(GL_LIGHT0,GL_LINEAR_ATTENUATION,0.000000)
glLightf(GL_LIGHT0,GL_QUADRATIC_ATTENUATION,0.000000)
glLightfv(GL_LIGHT1,GL_SPECULAR,0019FC78)
glLightfv(GL_LIGHT1,GL_POSITION,0019FC04)
glDisable(GL_LIGHT1)
glLightfv(GL_LIGHT1,GL_AMBIENT,0019FC04)
glLightfv(GL_LIGHT1,GL_DIFFUSE,0019FC04)
glLightf(GL_LIGHT1,GL_LINEAR_ATTENUATION,0.000000)
glLightf(GL_LIGHT1,GL_QUADRATIC_ATTENUATION,0.000000)
glLightfv(GL_LIGHT2,GL_SPECULAR,0019FC78)
glLightfv(GL_LIGHT2,GL_POSITION,0019FC04)
glDisable(GL_LIGHT2)
glLightfv(GL_LIGHT2,GL_AMBIENT,0019FC04)
glLightfv(GL_LIGHT2,GL_DIFFUSE,0019FC04)
glLightf(GL_LIGHT2,GL_LINEAR_ATTENUATION,0.000000)
glLightf(GL_LIGHT2,GL_QUADRATIC_ATTENUATION,0.000000)
glLightfv(GL_LIGHT3,GL_SPECULAR,0019FC78)
glLightfv(GL_LIGHT3,GL_POSITION,0019FC04)
glDisable(GL_LIGHT3)
glLightfv(GL_LIGHT3,GL_AMBIENT,0019FC04)
glLightfv(GL_LIGHT3,GL_DIFFUSE,0019FC04)
glLightf(GL_LIGHT3,GL_LINEAR_ATTENUATION,0.000000)
glLightf(GL_LIGHT3,GL_QUADRATIC_ATTENUATION,0.000000)
glLightfv(GL_LIGHT4,GL_SPECULAR,0019FC78)
glLightfv(GL_LIGHT4,GL_POSITION,0019FC04)
glDisable(GL_LIGHT4)
glLightfv(GL_LIGHT4,GL_AMBIENT,0019FC04)
glLightfv(GL_LIGHT4,GL_DIFFUSE,0019FC04)
glLightf(GL_LIGHT4,GL_LINEAR_ATTENUATION,0.000000)
glLightf(GL_LIGHT4,GL_QUADRATIC_ATTENUATION,0.000000)
glLightfv(GL_LIGHT5,GL_SPECULAR,0019FC78)
glLightfv(GL_LIGHT5,GL_POSITION,0019FC04)
glDisable(GL_LIGHT5)
glLightfv(GL_LIGHT5,GL_AMBIENT,0019FC04)
glLightfv(GL_LIGHT5,GL_DIFFUSE,0019FC04)
glLightf(GL_LIGHT5,GL_LINEAR_ATTENUATION,0.000000)
glLightf(GL_LIGHT5,GL_QUADRATIC_ATTENUATION,0.000000)
glLightfv(GL_LIGHT6,GL_SPECULAR,0019FC78)
glLightfv(GL_LIGHT6,GL_POSITION,0019FC04)

andreasaspenberg said:
in this case however because opengl is not supported the games default to direct 3d because that is the only api supported by windows.

Nope this was done on Windows 10 as Windows 10 does not stop the graphic driver supporting OpenGL. Even Windows XP could support Vulkan and OpenGL as long as the graphic drivers provided it. OpenGL is not coupled to the OS other than with respect to graphic driver availability.

andreasaspenberg · Feb 1, 2018

all games running open gl stops before they start because the api is not supported. command and conquer tiberium wars runs but slowly(it uses direct 3d but i guess it is not optimised for modern hardware.). plese help me add opengl support to my windows 10 pc rather than spread lies.

Dr Super Good · Feb 2, 2018

andreasaspenberg said:
all games running open gl stops before they start because the api is not supported. command and conquer tiberium wars runs but slowly(it uses direct 3d but i guess it is not optimised for modern hardware.). plese help me add opengl support to my windows 10 pc rather than spread lies.

OpenGL support is added by the graphic driver. If your graphic drivers are not providing OpenGL support then please contact the graphic driver manufacturer. Only they could help you, and not us.

HappyTauren · Feb 2, 2018

andreasaspenberg said:
all games running open gl stops before they start because the api is not supported. command and conquer tiberium wars runs but slowly(it uses direct 3d but i guess it is not optimised for modern hardware.). plese help me add opengl support to my windows 10 pc rather than spread lies.

are you sure you aren't a delusional sack of meat

andreasaspenberg · Feb 4, 2018

according to my research opengl stopped working as part of the fall creators update. i am not sure if believe that or not but it could be a clue to fixing the problem. graphics is way beyond my knowledge however.

Dr Super Good · Feb 4, 2018

You could always write your own OpenGL .dll which uses Vulkan or D3D. It just will take a lot of effort and time.

andreasaspenberg · Feb 4, 2018

i am not a programmer so that is out of the question.

HappyTauren · Feb 4, 2018

I just ran wc3 in opengl.

andreasaspenberg · Feb 5, 2018

in what system?

HappyTauren · Feb 5, 2018

win10 with the latest updates

andreasaspenberg · Feb 5, 2018

then it ran in direct 3d as it supports that as well. ghost master, doom 3 and quake 4 does not support direct 3d so they will fail to run.

how can i get opengl working in windows 10

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