Hellfire Peninsula

[Moderator]

16:14, 26th Feb 2009 by bounty hunter2:
Hellfire Peninsula is a melee map made by arthas_king. The map is symmetrical so the balance of the map doesn't have much problems. Besides the fact that the top players have the Goblin Laboratory and the bottom ones have the Marketplace. I find the terrain pretty lacking. It has little or no dodoads, and the ground tileset isn't done in the best manner. The creeps are randomly placed and you should place them correctly. Most of the creep groups even don't have drops and the once that have are placed at 100% at one item. Also the creeps have the normal sight range instead of camp. You need to improve the terrain and fix the creeps until then, 2/5 (Lacking) and Pending.

18:35, 25th Mar 2009 by bounty hunter2:
The drops are still badly done, but you set the sights to good. The terrain could use some work aswell. Anyway I guess it can get 2/5 (Lacking) and Approved since you are willing to improve.

 

[APproject]

I rate this by 2/5 and I suggest this map for Pending because of these two reasons:

1. Map is out of doodads. Many empty spots that really requires some cute doodads. Spots with 7 torches in one spot looks ugly, I suggest you to remove it and take only 1 torch.
2. Gold Mines are not protected by creeps. Some other Gold Mines or Neutral Buildings are protected by about two level 1-2 creeps, others by much bigger force. That's equal imbalance. And creeps protecting Gold Mines that are nearly start locations are necessary.

However, these mistakes are easy to fix. So as I was saying, work at least few hours on the enviroment and add creeps to all Gold Mines. Fixing that, my rating will increase. By the way, nice description.

 

[arthas_king]

got it man ^^ i will try to fix em!
edit:changed the map and updated

 

[APproject]

Gold Mines that are located nearly Start Locations are still not protected by creeps. There's still lack of doodads. You obviously didn't spend at least an hour working on it, right? Don't grudge time fot it. My rating will not change yet.

 

[arthas_king]

not protected by creeps? are you kidding me?

 

[Revan(Rom)]

You´ve stolen the name of my map!
what for a blame!

 

[APproject]

Really? Well I can't see any. Can you? Look at screenshot.

Screenshot

By the way, only Blizzard Entertainment should blame you for stealing this name - Hellfire Peninsula, the name of area from World of Warcraft because it's their phrase. But they don't.

 

[arthas_king]

if u know how to play melle maps the 1st gold mine must be free so the workers can harverst gold from it.

and Revan(rom) sorry man i didnt knew that you have created a melle map with the same name

well its just a map i made based on its terrain,and it's name,what else to say? a part from outland based on blizzard entertainment's outland name.Why everyone is actiing so angrily at me?

 

[APproject]

Actually you're wrong. Let's say, there are 3 players on a map, yeah? And I put 1 player computer and other player - closed. Guess what happens? I start playing and the spot with Player 3 is empty, without creeps, you can easily order your acylote / whisp / peasant / peon to go there and start gathering resouce.

You must put creeps there. It will gone if you will play at that spot. Look at this standard melee type map trigger, look at this action I marked. If you don't believe me, put few hostiles neary your start location and start game, you'll notice that there are no creeps.

I love you, arthas_king. Here's some nice acting.

 

[arthas_king]

i know it and thats why i dont add any.

 

[APproject]

Umm.. I don't understand you then. My rating won't increase if you won't make full volue melee map. Have a nice day.

 

[arthas_king]

lol so thats why the map is not aproved by mods ^^ hehe il try to fix it btw thanks for the help ^^ now i got it

 

[Septimus]

Unless your map was a 1 vs 1 map, all gold mine with starting location should have neutral hostile guarding it or else the gameplay won't be balance.

Cause if I am undead, I could easily send my acolyte to the unguarded gold mine for fast mining.

The melee trigger would remove all hostile creep within 1,000 distance from the starting location if the player slot by being used as long as the action of removing creep within starting location was not removed.

I do not think I need to evaluate it since approject does.

 

[arthas_king]

oh my bad thanks for the help septimus i will make some guys and update the map ^^
edit:fixes made rescourse updated ^^

 

[APproject]

All creeps was set randomly way. Fix facing positions and work on doodads, also add 'hills' using Terrain Palette > Raise. It might look more decent. <3

 

[arthas_king]

hehe! long way to go i just hope my map to be aproved one day!

 

[bounty hunter2]

One day it might be approved. However it needs necessary fixes. PM when they are done.

 

[arthas_king]

well sure but i dont have time these days i will fix it when its possible ^^
edit:well i updeate4d it to the last ver ^^ i hope it will be good

 

[AIagremm]

Since when, satyrs live in hellfire peninsula?

 

[arthas_king]

its just an imaginaion ^^ satyrs once lived in outland

 

[bounty hunter2]

If this is the last version I shall check it when I will have time.

 

[arthas_king]

If this is the last version I shall check it when I will have time.

well i see it wont get approved and i wanted to ask what things i made wrong coz i have plenty of time to fix them ATM


EDIT:well that wasnt the final ver i tested it and saw that some creeps were ''raiding'' your base i added a gold mine plus i fixed some creep drops hope it gets approved

 

[bounty hunter2]

The creeps are still quite imbalanced and the sight is set to 500 instead of 200.

 

[arthas_king]

may i ask.... where i can change this?

 

[ninjaen]

i looked on APproject's screeny shouldn't the main building be switched with the gold mine because if like they said 3 players one closed the neutral hostile would guard that way which is better

 

[arthas_king]

Update:Changed the gold mine's amount from 12500 to 20000 and changed teh creep's line of sight to 200 as BH 2 suggested hope it gets approved now

 

[arthas_king]

At last it got approved
Things to fix:
Better terrain,
make more drops,
2 more goldmines?