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[Misha]

lol.. i heard about war2 but haven't played it....

 

[StormWarriors2]

much better than WoW. and is really fun i have game but doesn't work any more :*(

 

[AIagremm]

Yeah! The f*cking orcs turned beautiful Shadowmoon Valley and Temple of Karabor into not beautiful Shadowmoon Valley and Black Temple.
And the lush greenlands of the Hellfire Peninsula into Hellfire Peninsula! :O
And Farahlon into a pile of islands called Netherstorm(Oh no, blood elves and the destruction of the world did that)
And Blades Edge Mountains into something spiky. And part of Terrokar into Bone Wastes, and beautifull and holy crypt Auchindoun and many other draenei settlements and temples into ruins. And the Devouring Sea dissapeared! Just like many other locations.

I played some of WC2, back when i had my old comp. I didnt understand English as good as I do now, so it was really hard to play, and I abandoned it.

 

[Misha]

sea turned to abys of space D:
water is "on-palm-holding" precious

 

[AIagremm]

Stupid Kil'jaeden and Sargeras.
They killed most of the draenei and their settlements.
And then they destroyed the awesome world!
Who knows, maybe there were other continents!(And maybe even something else)

 

[VeljkoM]

I don't like Dranei only those in Warcraft 3 I respect.Akama is the greatest.
But Dranei that used space rocket and accidentally fall on Azeroth and then joined humans for no apparent reason?Totally BS.

 

[AIagremm]

Akama really is. He is the good guy now, he secretly joined good guys and now plans to destroy Illidan.
Well most people think that draenei suck, is because they fell on a space ship(blizzard tried to make it more fantasy then sci-fi, but its still too much). Draenei are actually a pretty normal race, without Naaru technology. They have pretty normal buildings and cities. Humans from Alliance Expedition actually met some draenei, and even offered them to go to Azeroth. The draenei said that maybe they will meet again once, and that they cant go to Azeroth. They belong on Draenor. They had an alliance with them.

Plus draenei hate orcs, and worship the Light, as humans and high elves do. Blood elves whos kind sabotaged Exodar, and killed many Draenei in Outland, plus they feed upon fel energy. Not to mension Forsaken. And on the other hand, dwarves and humans who worship the light too and peacefull night elves who helped the draenei in the first place. Their choise was'nt a hard one.

 

[VeljkoM]

Well part about dranei rebellion is cool even if it is from WoW.I know that Naru gave that space ship to dranei and that they are magic users but I didn't know about Dranei knowing humans before WoW.
Dranei only had human kind to join as you said.But night elves wouldn't join humans because then orcs would also.Night elves are simply older race then humans so they are above them at some point.

 

[Misha]

the "above-ness" of the nightelves led them to teir ruin once.
their ways have changed a bit since then....

 

[VeljkoM]

But still why would they join the Great Alliance with humans and fight the horde?In their eyes they are all outlanders, Horde and Aliance are same to them.

 

[Misha]

Blame WoW and his removing of night elves immortality

now they feel insecure, even with Telldrassil (the other worldtree)

 

[VeljkoM]

They lost their immortality in War3. Campaign was called Eternity ends.

 

[AIagremm]

Teldrassil is essence of corruption. Darkness grows within.
This new Archdruid is an idiot.

Night elves actually have little ties with humans. The Alliance on Kalimdor actually is almost separate from the Eastren Kingdoms one. Draenei, night elves and Theremore.
And night elves wouldnt join the orcs, because they killed Cenarios.

And they say that the story how humans and night elves united(this is unknown)will be tolled in Warcraft: The Movie.

 

[VeljkoM]

It was because of Manaroth.

And that Alliance was made specifically for WoW.What are the chances for
1-Dranei crushing on Azeroth
2-Night elves joining the humans
3-theramore still having connections with ironforge
and many more

 

[AIagremm]

The 3 is really possible. They got ships.
Night elves joining humans is strange, joining Jaina yes, but Stormwind...
And yes, the chanses the draenei would crash on Azeroth... aint that small actually! O.O
Draenor is tied with Azeroth, so there were some chances that it would crash on Azeroth.

 

[VeljkoM]

But they would crash earlier.They left Dreanor long time ago.
But ships couldn't simply go to Khaz modan.It is a mountain.And would they really risk it again to go all the way to Azeroth trough Melestorm just to see if anyone survived invasion of undead and demons.
And also why would Blood Elves and Forsaken join the Horde.Elves were massacred by orcs and trolls and Forsaken...well some of them were probably killed by the horde.Also Sylvanas doesn't have great opinion of the orcs because of her sister.

 

[AIagremm]

Well, Blood elves and Forsaken are only temporarily in the Horde.
If something happens, they will leave the Horde first thing.
For example Forsaken want to kill the Scourge and all the living.
And blood elves feed upon demonic energy, and seek vengeance(2 things that made the orcs idiots, so Thrall doesnt like that).
Thrall didnt even want to let the Forsaken join(of course), but idiots from the Earthen Ring tolled him that we must take them. And I thought that shamans didnt smoke all their branes in lodges.

Second.
Ships would go to Wetlands - dwarven territory(without much control), from which it is easy to reach Khaz Modan.
And the ships always go round the Maelstrom, not comin' near it.

 

[VeljkoM]

Fair enough about ships.
But the WoW Horde was just created so it would be 5v5 races.Blood elves could always join back to night elves (not sure about this) or go to Jaina.Kael loved Jaina and Theramore humans never did anything bad against Blood Elves.
Forsaken are undead so everyone in right mind would avoid them.Sure they aren't with Scourge but they don't act so much nicer.

 

[AIagremm]

They are nuts! Especially the Grand Apothecary Putress(its good tha he was killed)
Did you see the Anhganar the Wrath Gate trailer? Horrifying.

Night elves would never let blood elves join. They berely tolerate high elves, but blood elves? No way. I also dont think that Jaina likes blood elves, especially after what Kael did.

 

[VeljkoM]

And she would know that how?Not from Garithos or his men or dwarves.I prety much ignore WoW lore.I usually seek out Warcraft manual if I want to remember lore stuff.
And why Night Elves hold grudge so long? Can't they forgive?

 

[AIagremm]

No, they kinda still angry. I also dont understand why they hate them, but lately nght elves became to like high elves.
So, I think they can. I guess they are still angry that high elves have created a magical storm in Ashenvale that almost destroyed it.

 

[VeljkoM]

It isn't just that.They can't forgive anything that happened what like 10 000 years ago.

 

[AIagremm]

Well... if you live 10 000 years, you remember what happened 10 000 years ago.

 

[VeljkoM]

But still people change.I mean look at Illidan.In warcraft 3 he was power hungry but in WoW he is brain damaged maniac who wants to kill all with an army of retards that call them selves Illidari.

 

[AIagremm]

Well, theres a reason.
He possess the Skull of Gul'dan, which has within it true desires, thoughts and even part of the soul of the Warlock.
Its dark whispers slowly made him insane.

Plus in WoW he is still power hungry.
It seems that he tries to make a new Well of Eternity in Outland(I fear that it will completely destroy Outland.

 

[VeljkoM]

Destruction of Outland again?How original.

 

[AIagremm]

Well, it surtanly wont make Outland a normal world.

 

[Misha]

making Illidan insane was the greatest bull i found in the WoW >_>

 

[VeljkoM]

Was he really sane at all before.Sure maybe 100000 years ago but really can you say that he was ever normal

 

[AIagremm]

When giant Kil'jaeden appears in front of you when you yell about your power and how you escaped the foolish demons, mind is not the only thing you can lose.

 

[VeljkoM]

No he suffered brain freeze when he lied in snow with his stomach cut in half and his intestines being eaten by ghoul (kidding about last part).I wander how can anyone survive that.

 

[AIagremm]

How can anyone stay in a small prison for 10 000 years, and don't lose their mind?
So, it seems that he has lost his mind three times: Prison, mad Kil'jaeden and branefreez.
Oh, four! Also the Skull of Gul'dan.

 

[VeljkoM]

Five when he tried to create new source of magic (I can't remember what, well or something).
Six when he was born.

 

[AIagremm]

Yeah, the first time was when he became magic addicted, second when he understood hat defeat of the Legion will destroy the Well of Eternity, and so on...
So there is nobody as crazy as he is.

 

[VeljkoM]

You hurt goblins feelings.

 

[AIagremm]

How could I?
I love Kezan and Undermine!

 

[Misha]

hahahah

 

[xvarts]

You know there is a inn in WOW friendly to the Horde with gnomes,humans,dwarfs,and night elves in it. And other acceptions the Horde/Alliance line. My charactor a blood elf went to that inn. It's near Theromoore Isle.

 

[AIagremm]

Thats business baby xD

 

[VeljkoM]

Well in WoW horde and alliance aren't in war. They just don't like each other.

 

[Misha]

what a fat lie, it all open war if the users are concerned.

WoW-ers are fanatics

 

[VeljkoM]

Poor Jaina and Thrall.

 

[AIagremm]

The leaders of Allaince and Horde(except some like Varian Vrynn and some other idiots)want to ally, but races of Horde and Alliance dont like each other(especially because there are f*cking forsaken and blood elves in the horde, who hate alliance).

 

[VeljkoM]

That's why I mostly ignore wow lore. For me only official lore are Warcraft RTS games and nothing else.

 

[LordSkye]

Hi everyone, I'm Skye. Kael'Thas Sunstrider is my favorite character in all warcraft lore, I just think its crappy Blizz made him go bad.
Looking forward to being a part of the group

 

[VeljkoM]

Welcome and I agree with you about bad Kael. He maybe isn't perfect but he cared for his people and not just power.

 

[AIagremm]

However he chosed fel energy, and his wish for revenge changed him.

 

[VeljkoM]

That is just WoW *****. He and blood elves aren't the greatest people but still are wise and noble. Every their action after Frozen Throne doesn't make sense.

 

[AIagremm]

Yeah, pretty much.

 

[LordSkye]

I honestly would have liked to see Kael revive the sunwell and go back to his people in WoW, not become a stupid raid boss.