General

[VeljkoM]

Well they are on Dreanor working for Illidari and that doesn't sound like they still serve Ashara. They may be even traitors. Also if actually have seen whole naga race and not just Lady Vashj and small raiding parties I am sure we would see how organized they are. Blizzard is simply focusing on elves to much...

 

[AIagremm]

Yeah... and sometimes they do really sucking stuff with them.
But I guess that truth about Vashj may be revealed when the Lost City of Vash'jir will rise from the sea in Cataclysm. Im sure there will be more lore about nagas in this expansion. And I hope it wont suck.

 

[VeljkoM]

Hope is wasted on the hopeless when it comes to WoW.
But maybe if you are interested you could see my nag story in Naga group.

 

[Misha]

yeah, do see it guys, or else!

joking ^^ but the story is great.

 

[VeljkoM]

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/group.php?do=discuss&discussionid=294&pp=10&page=33
If anyone is interest (or alive that works too) here is the link

 

[AIagremm]

Hey, you know I've been thinking about the worgen homeworld.
I imagine it like a barren land, with a lot of rock spires, and rocky mountains. The sky is green, but the terrain is like cliff doodads in the Barrens in WCIII.
There are some small green plants, and in some really low valleys, and other locations there are even swamps. The worgen, and wolves inhabit this cruel land, worgen having shamans(maybe) and other nature stuf, like stonehedge like thingy.
And there are the lords of Emeral Flame... maybe they are demons, or some other force. I have no idea who they are.

 

[VeljkoM]

Worgen land? Try Romania.

 

[AIagremm]

Why? Oo
Because Transylvania is in it?

 

[VeljkoM]

The birthplace of werewolves. Worgens are cheep imitation of them anyway.

 

[AIagremm]

Of course! But their another world origin is intriguing.

 

[VeljkoM]

That theory is not official anymore. Now they are druid form like bears.

 

[AIagremm]

Worgen are new race in the next expansion.
Plus worgen really were summoned by a night elves sentinel in Ashenvale, and Arugal in Lordaeron. From another world...

 

[VeljkoM]

I know that they are race. I meant night elf druids were transforming to worgens in the "past". I really don't understand nothing since Wotlk

 

[AIagremm]

Night elf druids did wha? Weird.

 

[VeljkoM]

There something about "...Night elf secretive druid order from distant past..." that is connected to them.

 

[AIagremm]

Its a referance to their summoning in Ashenvale, which is kinda weird since there was only one night elven female, that was summoning them.
And before that nobody knew about worgen, except Arugal.

 

[VeljkoM]

No the elven female summoned worgens around same time as Arugal. She used them to clean fellwood from demon.

 

[AIagremm]

I know. And they summoned it in the Third War to save their lands. However with both, things turned out bad.

 

[VeljkoM]

In next expansion will learn that worgens are banished elves from far way past that lost their minds...

 

[AIagremm]

I actually like that gilneasians turned into worgen.
And that is one of the really big chances I like. Most are stupid, especially in the the first WoW.

 

[VeljkoM]

It is nice to see how all mighty Gilineas crawls back to the alliance when they have worgen flue. I bet that most think "where was the curse in Second war, we really could used them then ?"

 

[AIagremm]

Indeed. Plus its Deathwings fault why Gilneasians isolated themselves.
So its kinda ironical that in his return they return to Allaince.

 

[VeljkoM]

Deathwings? It isn't because Therenes wanted to keep orcs alive in camps and Gilineas refused to have any part in that (like giving gold to maintain them)? Deathwing was if i remember guilty for Alterac.

 

[AIagremm]

He also influenced Greymane, that Gilneas doesnt need Alliance, resulting the isolation.

 

[VeljkoM]

He probably didn't even need to speak. I imagine that he just said "Alliance..." and Greymare exploded.

 

[AIagremm]

Yeap, but actually I would something of the sort. Only I would just quit the Alliance, but without insulting anyone, and try to keep good relations with other nations.
Also, I would make an expedition force to capture some islands, and I would still make the Greymane wall, cuz its good defence.

 

[VeljkoM]

Like Dalaran and Kul Tiras did?

 

[AIagremm]

Yeah, right! And nobody thinks of you like of a traitor.
Plus they had really good relations with Alliance.

 

[VeljkoM]

I think that Lordearon was only nation that never left alliance. All did leave or return at some point.

 

[AIagremm]

Indeed. But since its Allaince of Lordaeron, they couldnt leave it.

 

[VeljkoM]

They could have disband. But I miss them.

 

[AIagremm]

Lordaeron was nice

Northeron...

 

[VeljkoM]

The Plague lands are mockery and i hope that Blizzard plans to save it from both dead.

 

[AIagremm]

I hope that shamans will restore Draenor, at least partially, and cleanse Lordaeron.
Maybe make Kalimdor the forest it was once...

 

[VeljkoM]

That is big "to do" list. Isn't that job for druids anyway?

 

[AIagremm]

Draenor for shamans and druids, Azeroth for druinds and paladins.

 

[VeljkoM]

Paladins are holy warriors that fight for the light.

 

[AIagremm]

Yes. And someone needs to cleanse the plagued lands, and its inhabitants.

 

[VeljkoM]

Ahh paladins can heal people but that is just about it. Real paladins can't do even that.

 

[AIagremm]

Well I dont know. COmbine powers of light, in the sacred places(Lights Hope Chapel, Uther's Tomb)an use the power of Light to make a great blast that will cleanse the taint from the land, maybe burning it ith the Light.
And on the tainted ashes, on which Arthas built a new order shall return life.

 

[VeljkoM]

Wouldn't he commit suicide once he realizes what he has done?

 

[AIagremm]

I dont mean that ARthas will be returned his soul and life. No refunds.

I meant that the land on which he wanted to build a new order, shall be cleansed.

 

[VeljkoM]

Oh...well there will be new new order then. Once scourge is defeated and forsaken "freed" from their problem there will be peace.
Also I bet that king of Stormwin will die when that happens.

 

[AIagremm]

He will die when the Horde will. His crazy!
"I will destroy Thrall and Horde!"
Unlike Thrall he is an idiot. How come such guys become kings?
At leats Horde is too scared too attack Allaince when there is such aggresive leader in it. You attack theiur outpost and he will start a war.

 

[VeljkoM]

Well king is born so he can be even retarded and no body could say anything. Thrall doesn't want to fight against Humans because he wants peace. When did horde and Alliance switch places?

Oh and he did proclaim the war when Horde and Alliance killed Forsaken rebels. It was nice video to see even tho there wasn't much seance.

 

[AIagremm]

Yeah, I liked it. The onl ything I dont get, why didint dragons come earlier, and kill Arthas? They just cant love life that much.

And seriously, Thrall is smart, and Allaince are iditos since they dont seek peace.
However Thrall and Earthen Ring did a big mistake when they excepted Forsaken and Blood elves. However in the real lore, he never did that.

 

[VeljkoM]

Dragons are strange. I mean why they didn't help in Third war when world was in danger and yet they help when Arthas is in danger? I almost think that "forgotten war" campaign is right.

What is that Earthen Ring anyway? I never heard it in Warcraft 3? I wanted to make joke about in cin where horde is recruiting new races. Thral and Carine would say no then out of nowhere those guys would say yes and undead would be excepted.

 

[AIagremm]

They are like Cenarion Circle, but for Shamans.
And why the heck did all the dragons become neutral and hostile in WCIII? They could have done a great help.
And what was is it about dragons in forgotten war?

 

[VeljkoM]

Well they thought they were to important to serve gods so they proclaimed them selves gods. They actually summoned legion in War of the ancients but because saviors were gone they said it was them. Demon soul was actually crafted to enslave legion but it was latter used to kill them.

 

[AIagremm]

Yeah... forgotten war has some bright ideas, but some are just plain crazy!