Diablo III Warcraft Beta v1.19b

[Bartimaeus]

I thought this was open source. When i try to open it with WE it won't open.

It's only openable by World Editor Unlimited/JASSNEWGEN.

However, in the next version, it should be openable by regular World Editor, if Cloud uses my fixed version of the map, (which I believe he will).

 

[CloudMax]

People really is to lazy to check if the map is Open Source or not. They are even more lazy then me...
They dont have to read 47 pages, only like 10 comments.. And they should be happy for that.
I have readed all #698 comments. And commented almost all of the comments that isnt mine.

 

[99.Blink.Zon]

what a fantastic map!! i love itt..

 

[DeathsBrother]

When will we start to see spells that are more triggered, and not made from vanilla ones >_>?

 

[CloudWolf]

When will we start to see spells that are more triggered, and not made from vanilla ones >_>?

as soon as they are all done Theres 15 of them, so it shouldnt take too long

Ide rather add them all at the same time though Its just easier for me to balance everything that way

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Ive also been triggering all the item drops, so they're all 100% random now Bosses and chests have several drop sets, so it should be different every time you play

 

[CloudMax]

When will we start to see spells that are more triggered, and not made from vanilla ones >_>?

When they are done. And is that all you have to say about the map?
"When will it get more triggered spells?" :S
Would be nice if you also could add what you think about the map since many people just say the bad things not the good.

Come on people, we get happy, the team gets happy, the map gets good, thats the life circle of Warcraft Map Making.

Edit: Hey cloud =D

 

[Super-Sheep]

How long it can take to make few spells?

 

[CloudMax]

Few spells? :O Its about 12 i think and also, its not a basic stomp ability we will make, we will make the like they are in diablo 3. Which means you can controll the wizard beam spell (cant remember name) and such stuff. Its not that easy.

We are also working on other stuff at the same time, like making a better drop system so its random, making my full screen menu, fixing bugs, editing descriptions that is wrong and so on.

 

[CloudWolf]

Although good feedback is nice, the bad kind is always more usefull lol It shows us where we can improve

 

[Super-Sheep]

Few spells? :O Its about 12 i think and also, its not a basic stomp ability we will make, we will make the like they are in diablo 3. Which means you can controll the wizard beam spell (cant remember name) and such stuff. Its not that easy.

Its not 12. Many of the Diablo 3 splels can be already done without any triggering or such. And that beam could just be a spell that set your ms to 0 and adds buff and then a trigger that loops; pick all units that have buff and create 1 dummy at the unit and order last created unit to shockwave. But with a laser model and a fast projectile. :l

 

[CloudMax]

Yeah, but the good feedback makes us want to fix the bad things. ;-)
Lets say like this: If i do somthing i want to know that people likes it and dont get bad replys and that makes it more fun to continue work on it =D

Its not 12. Many of the Diablo 3 splels can be already done without any triggering or such. And that beam could just be a spell that set your ms to 0 and adds buff and then a trigger that loops; pick all units that have buff and create 1 dummy at the unit and order last created unit to shockwave. But with a laser model and a fast projectile. :l

Wrong, wrong, wrong. You shall be able to aim as it shoots to the degrees your hero is facing. So its harder then you think.
If we do it the way you said, if the hero moves, the spell wont follow to the gegrees your facing, it will continue to the point you was facing befor moving.
And what you say can cause bugs in the spell.

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Tell me the spells that can be done by the normal spells, that works exactly the same. We are trying to make identical copys of the spells and not like "diablo 3: Barbarian jumps he stomp where he lands the units get puched back" and in warcraft 3 "barbarian uses stomp, puches back units" or "barbarian jumps out of the map"

 

[Super-Sheep]

Wrong, wrong, wrong. You shall be able to aim as it shoots to the degrees your hero is facing. So its harder then you think.
If we do it the way you said, if the hero moves, the spell wont follow to the gegrees your facing, it will continue to the point you was facing befor moving.
And what you say can cause bugs in the spell."

Ok. But if you have 1ms you can still rotate.
As you can rotate, you can aim.
As it creates new dummy every 0.1, it aims to the facing angle of ur hero.

 

[CloudMax]

What i mean is that if you turn around in a circle, there will be a beam all around you since they dont follow your heros facing, they just spawn at the heros facing point and then go stright away.

 

[Super-Sheep]

they just spawn at the heros facing point and then go stright away.

= to there where hero is facing = to the right way

e: im talking abut facing angle not point

so I try to explain it better...
1. It gives you a buff when you begin cast
2. Trigger pick every 0.05s every unit with a buff
3. Trigger creates dummy at the point of picked unit
4. Trigger makes lastcreatedunit to have same facing angle as picked unit
5. Trigger orders lastcreatedunit to shockwave at offset of lastcreated unit 10 with facing angle of lastcreatedunit
6. Trigger removes lastcreatedunit.

I cant see any bugs..

 

[CloudMax]

You dont seem to understand a shit of what im saying.
If your hero is facing north, and a beam is spawned to move north, and your hero changes to east, the beam will continue to north but you will also have a beam that goes to east.
So you will have like 100 beams going to different directions if you spin your hero.

 

[Super-Sheep]

• Animation - Change (Triggering unit) turn speed to 0.05

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[CloudWolf]

guys... please be professional

You dont see me getting upset when people criticise my map If I did, I'de permanently be in a bad mood lol

Its only a warcraft III map after all, theres better things in life to worry about

 

[CloudMax]

But he thinks thats everything is so simple.

You maybe dont get upset but i get upset when i see people criticise the map. I mean, it doesnt get more fun for me to make somthing when they just tell about the bad things and not the good ones. It just makes me worried that people will say the same about what i have done.

 

[Tassadaritze]

awesome map, i played it on battle.net

 

[ReDeR]

Cool Map But This is for playing for the first and the last time.. You shouldn't update it TOO early But Trigers and bosses is SOOOO NICe .. Could you remake to rpg like TBR? not only one way? but farming and what eva?! 4/5

 

[CloudMax]

We cant make this map so much more different from what it is now.
And no, we cant add more ways and stuff becouse there is no space left and i mean no space. And we dont want it to be to far away from the original.
And we dont update so often anymore. Befor it was like every second day now its about every 4/7 day or somthing.

And remake the map... O_O Better to make a tottaly new one whit new content, areas, bosses and stuff but whit the same heros.
Why did you put 4 and not 5? x)

And when you say that the triggers is nice, you mean that it looks nice in game, not the actual triggers right? Becouse its like writhing everything i just wroth backwards.

 

[Ebisux]

I wonder how your skill team will make barbarians leap , so he cant jump under the bridge n stuff

 

[CloudMax]

make a system so that he only can use it inside of our regions or just make like "an invissible wall" when he jumps to a invissible wall, he wall start to slide next to that wall insted of flying out of the map, like it is in diablo 2, that would atleast be as the original games and i think diablo 3 will be the same.

 

[Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo]

That's really hard to make, but for my leap I've worked out s.th. that works 90% as I want.
I still got a problem left though, which is when he jumps to a certain area and during his jump the terrain height varies greatly, it looks plain stupid then :O

 

[Majin]

First of all, Great map! it's surely fun to play and graphically it's great (i was amazed by the slow spell of Tyrael). I have a little suggestion for the barbarian's rage: it's a bit annoying when during a fight you get enough rage to cast a spell but the moment you click on it your rage just decreased so you have to wait the next attack to cast the spell, i was thinking that you could change it in some way to make the mana to not be lowered while fighting (for example when the barbarian is attacking disable the mana drain trigger, but then there would be the problem to reactivate it)...It would be nice if you'd find a solution to that

 

[CloudMax]

The entire Rage system will be reworked, dont worry about that.
We will make it like in Diablo 3. You have X rage, you heal very fast, but it cost almost all your rage to use an ability.

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300 Posts =D

 

[DeathsBrother]

I /have/ been giving feedback, I just don't /feel/ like it right now >_>

 

[CloudWolf]

Version 1.11 has arrived!

For a full list of new features, check the main post

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Sorry for the lack of updates recently, I was in the middle of uni exams, and needed to revise as they pretty much decide my future lol

In other news, I finally got that random item update finished Took a fair while to balance properly :S You may play the game twice, and get completely different items each time

For the future, im going to attempt to randomise creep groups, and possibly bosses so they will be different each time

 

[CloudMax]

Yey! =D 111 is out!
One, One, One the number of the uhhhh.....

 

[CloudWolf]

oooh, actually, heres another random fact

If we get another 1000 or so downloads, we're officially going to be on page one as number 10 of the hives most downloaded maps

 

[ProfessorZmurge]

Fuck Yeah!

 

[CloudMax]

Here is some random fact i have, the most downloaded map has about 50.000 downloads and that map is just a edited map that isnt originally created by the person who uploaded it.
We have to beat him becouse Cloud is worth a first place more then him!

 

[ProfessorZmurge]

Well the number of comments pwn in this map

 

[CloudMax]

That may be becouse like 1/3 of them are mine. I have about 265 posts here. xP

 

[JakeCake]

It's too late for me to try it out now, but I will try it tomorrow with some friends

 

[RaiN.]

Btw i saw in the development thread that u said desintegrate can't be coded to be as it is in the trailer so i'll have to prove your wrong

I have it created just to see if it was really possible to make a controlable beam and yeah it is and its really easy to control no casting no nothing just clicking.

 

[Bumkt]

It'd be kind of cool to have people vote in a new class something people think will be in the actual game.

 

[Darkenneko_003]

It'd be kind of cool to have people vote in a new class something people think will be in the actual game.

Well,
From my Point of View,
I See another Melee, Not just a melee, a Melee/Spell caster. Kind of like the Paladin in D2.
Another class would probably be a ranged Non magic character, such as the Amazon in D2.
Because of now.
Witch Doctor = Necromancer
Sorcerer = Wizard
Barbarian = Barbarian [Duh]

so, Reasonably it would be.

Melee/Spell caster = Paladin
Ranged Non-Magic = Amazon

Makes sense to me. =]

 

[CloudWolf]

according to blizzcon, the barbarian is the only class that is returning from the previous games :S

so the other two will have to be something weve never seen before

maybe theyre gonna go all MMORPG on our asses and include a healer class? :S lol

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In other news, ive already noticed a few bugs lol

- Witch Doctors starting armour has a broken DISBTN icon xD
- Using seismic slam on the skeleton king when he's casting inferno makes him disapear :S

lol =] I guess this is why we do updates though!

 

[Bartimaeus]

Monsters need to be harder, period, if they're going to drop random loot all the time.

Either that, or items need be toned down, either in drop rate or in stats. I got four clan axes in the first wave of monsters.

(edit) Chest items also need to be randomized, although, with a slight higher chance of dropping items. As well as more chests.

(edit) Armor of Agility needs a either a revision of its description, or a revision of its stats. It says it'll make you go at a faster pace, etc, but agility does not grant faster move speed, nor does it give any special move speed modifier.

(edit) You can hold two shields, which is ridiculous. Also, some mana-based classes shouldn't be able to dual-wield, say, two axes, (Witch-Doctor/Wizard).

 

[CloudWolf]

Monsters need to be harder, period, if they're going to drop random loot all the time.

Either that, or items need be toned down, either in drop rate or in stats. I got four clan axes in the first wave of monsters.

(edit) Chest items also need to be randomized, although, with a slight higher chance of dropping items. As well as more chests.

(edit) Armor of Agility needs a either a revision of its description, or a revision of its stats. It says it'll make you go at a faster pace, etc, but agility does not grant faster move speed, nor does it give any special move speed modifier.

(edit) You can hold two shields, which is ridiculous. Also, some mana-based classes shouldn't be able to dual-wield, say, two axes, (Witch-Doctor/Wizard).

The random drop system has only just been implemented so its gonna be a bit imba to begin with I'll have it sorted eventually though

As for holding 2 shields, LTGH is currently working on a full screen inventory like you see in diablo, which will put mine to shame My simple 6 slot inventory system is only temporary so I dont want to put too much effort into it

But ty for the feedback! Keep it coming

 

[Bartimaeus]

The random drop system has only just been implemented so its gonna be a bit imba to begin with I'll have it sorted eventually though

As for holding 2 shields, LTGH is currently working on a full screen inventory like you see in diablo, which will put mine to shame My simple 6 slot inventory system is only temporary so I dont want to put too much effort into it

But ty for the feedback! Keep it coming

I was actually just about to edit it, and say scratch that, because I just remembered that you had him working on a really nice one, so no need to put hardly any effort into the current one, as it's very temporal.

Anyways: Skeleton King, exploit: When the Skeleton King casts Inferno, and you stand right at the very back of the gate, the Inferno doesn't hit you, and you don't take any damage.

Also, another problem with the Skeleton King area, Deckard Cane teleports you too fast, and you hardly ever get to pick up the treasure from killing the SK. Secondly, Deckard Cane hardly ever lives, as he's too weak. Thirdly, Deckard Cane gets stuck behind the gate. Fourthly, he can attack through the gate. Fifthly, SK's Inferno MIGHT, I repeat, might, damage himself. I'm not sure, because I he was taking too much damage, and he didn't cast it again afterwards.

 

[CloudMax]

I THINK but i just THINK that Skeleton King doesnt have any drops? :O
Am i wrong? :S The latest version i played didnt contain any Skeleton king drops but that was 1.08 xP and Deckard Cane will be fixed.

Bartimaeus, i tought you was leaving this site? :O

 

[CyberDuelX16]

This has got to be the map with the best terrain i've ever seen, great job it looks almost identical to the video the Blizzard made, can't wait for more classes! Keep it up! 5/5

 

[Shanghai]

the spells realy sucks sry i tested it now i thought u made some new custom spells.
its only orginal nearly every thing. should be more cooler i know a spell u could use for barbarian like in the game its some kind of passive blink. that makes u omnislash.

 

[CloudMax]

Dude... Thnx for coming and say "the spells really sucks".
We are reworking all the damn spells... Can everyone stop complaining on them now.
Dont you think its hard to make a map like this alone? No? Well then your wrong becouse Cloudwolf have done almost everything himself so far and i respect and you should do that too.
If anyone comes and complain on the spells one more time, i guess you cant read becouse ive said that they are beggin reworked like 8 times in like 8 different pages.

Thnx for trying to help, Shanghai.

Edit: Sorry.. i got a bit pissed off.... Happens sometimes..

 

[Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo]

... such a "omnislash" spell does not exist. And improve your spelling for gods sake.
The only spell you might have been thinking about is the the wizard blink + multi strike rune. But get a clue first, thanks.

 

[CloudMax]

... such a "omnislash" spell does not exist. And improve your spelling for gods sake.
The only spell you might have been thinking about is the the wizard blink + multi strike rune. But get a clue first, thanks.

Yeah, i dont remember any omnislash spell eighter :O
Also, damn! He's spelling is worse then mine, i didnt knew that was possible

 

[Super-Sheep]

But then it would be better than Diablo III. D:

 

[CloudMax]

But then it would be better than Diablo III. D:

What post is this suppost to be about?
What would make what better?