Diablo III Warcraft Beta v1.19b

CloudMax · Sep 3, 2009

The question was when the monk is coming to the map. And im pretty sure he mean the actual character, not a model. Im not even sure if he knows about the WIP monk model.

VampireofBlood · Sep 3, 2009

don't be so nastey it was just a question^^

CloudMax · Sep 3, 2009

I forgot to add a smiley into my post.. maybe i sound to serious when i dont add smileys xD
=D

arthas_king · Sep 3, 2009

Yeah, to be honest you really sound serius.

CloudMax · Sep 3, 2009

meeh. Then i guess i will have to add a joke or two everytime i make a post? xD
But im not good at jokes

VampireofBlood · Sep 3, 2009

LTGH said:
I forgot to add a smiley into my post.. maybe i sound to serious when i dont add smileys xD
=D

Thats why talking is better than writing, cause with writing you cant tell emotions

CloudMax · Sep 3, 2009

More smilies it is then

Anyway, lets go on-topic now

VampireofBlood · Sep 3, 2009

kk.
I read about your continuing to create a second map soon?
Or are you just changing the current one alot?

CloudMax · Sep 3, 2009

We will start over. It will not be a "second map" it will be like a total remake of everything.
It will be more of a ORPG map next time, and we will have quests, towns, etc.
And CloudWolf told me on MSN that he wont be able to lead the next project.
He got a full time jobb and have much going on so he dont have time to lead everything.
But he will still try to terrain the map for us :>
Much is happening right now.

VampireofBlood · Sep 3, 2009

:] i know how that is, i am doing my "Abitur" right now, so i am pretty busy aswell

So i hope you are going to enlarge the map alot

CloudMax · Sep 3, 2009

The problem is... who will lead the next project/map? having a hard time trying to figure that out, and cloudwold dissapered after watched the sc2 world editor panel from blizzcon

So he did not answer that question.
I have no idea what will happen now.

The_Silent · Sep 4, 2009

LTGH said:
The problem is... who will lead the next project/map? having a hard time trying to figure that out, and cloudwold dissapered after watched the sc2 world editor panel from blizzcon
So he did not answer that question.
I have no idea what will happen now.

Well, if Cloudwolf's not gonna lead it. I'll just have to decide what the new map size and tile set will be my self :/

CloudMax · Sep 4, 2009

The_Silent said:
Well, if Cloudwolf's not gonna lead it. I'll just have to decide what the new map size and tile set will be my self :/

We talked more yesterday night.
He said that he maybe will be able to lead it, but he will wont be so active.
And i think he said that he wanted to do the terrain first and then give us the map so that we can work on it from there. I think thats what he said..

The_Silent · Sep 4, 2009

LTGH said:
We talked more yesterday night.
He said that he maybe will be able to lead it, but he will wont be so active.
And i think he said that he wanted to do the terrain first and then give us the map so that we can work on it from there. I think thats what he said..

Well, if we need a custom terran engine... The part of working on the terrain mainly would be a coding issue...
Besides, if prefer if i do some coding first, since i'll need to save the map every time i test. Thats gonna take A LOT of time if the terran is finished when i begin coding. On the other hand, coding nealy don't slow the saving time at all.

CloudMax · Sep 4, 2009

The_Silent said:
Well, if we need a custom terran engine... The part of working on the terrain mainly would be a coding issue...
Besides, if prefer if i do some coding first, since i'll need to save the map every time i test. Thats gonna take A LOT of time if the terran is finished when i begin coding. On the other hand, coding nealy don't slow the saving time at all.

Well, talk with cloudwolf about that. You guys have to figure out how the terraining will be done.

Vercas · Sep 4, 2009

ORPG? You're stealing my idea! :sad:

CloudMax · Sep 4, 2009

vercas said:
ORPG? You're stealing my idea!

Yeah, like an ORPG was your idea xD
lol. I know your just joking but i have wanted to make an d3w ORPG for a looooong time now.

Doctor-Pepper · Sep 6, 2009

Amazing terrain! Whoow

Vercas · Sep 6, 2009

I can send you my WIP map from the first version if you want proof...

Super-Sheep · Sep 6, 2009

omg you making D3 to be ORPG??!1 thats something very surprising.

oh wait... D3 is rpg, how it can be Vercas' idea instead of Blizzard's? And we already knew that they gonna turn D3 Wc3 to RPG on some time... Obvious stuff you know?

CloudMax · Sep 7, 2009

vercas said:
I can send you my WIP map from the first version if you want proof...

We did not steal your idea, it have nothing at all to do with you.
Diablo 3 is an RPG, kinda obvious..
And i did not know about your map when i told cloudwolf that i wanted to make the map an RPG the first time.
And everything is blizzards idea, not yours.
And dont tell me that you wasnt serious and that it was a joke, becouse you even responded with a post that have no sign of a joke.

The_Silent · Sep 7, 2009

vercas said:
I can send you my WIP map from the first version if you want proof...

We didn't know, the idea was kinda what we were originally going for. But we ended up just continueing Cloudwolfs original map. Now we're finally in the mood to do what was the first intention... Besides there's already many Diablo III maps out there, so it was kinda obvios at least one was doing an orpg.

Vercas · Sep 7, 2009

Well, my idea was to start making an ORPG of D3 after seeing their website first time. :smile:

Super-Sheep · Sep 7, 2009

I think many people got the same idea. -.-

They just didnt succeed and so they paused the project and never told to anyone about it. (me)

Grish · Sep 10, 2009

Wait, before you continue much further, can u finish a bit more on this map? It needs a little bit of balancing, since I found the wizard is stronger than the barbarian. It has more damage and nearly matches the Barbarians HP. Also, will the Monk be released on an update for this map? (Dunno if you guys knew, I kinda skipped all the pages, but Blizzard announced that the Monk is the next class, and even released a video of the Monk in a cinematic pwning noob undead)

.LsD · Sep 10, 2009

As of August 2009, four of the five classes have been unveiled: the Barbarian, the Witch Doctor, the Wizard and the Monk. Players may choose the gender of each class, a change from the fixed class genders in the previous two games. The Barbarian, previously featured in Diablo II, is the only class that Blizzard is planning to bring back for the initial release. Blizzard has stated that the Monk was not related in any way to Diablo: Hellfire Monk class. The Archivist was presented on April 1, 2009 following Blizzard's April Fool's Day joke tradition.

Source : Wikipedia

CloudMax · Sep 10, 2009

.LsD said:
As of August 2009, four of the five classes have been unveiled: the Barbarian, the Witch Doctor, the Wizard and the Monk. Players may choose the gender of each class, a change from the fixed class genders in the previous two games. The Barbarian, previously featured in Diablo II, is the only class that Blizzard is planning to bring back for the initial release. Blizzard has stated that the Monk was not related in any way to Diablo: Hellfire Monk class. The Archivist was presented on April 1, 2009 following Blizzard's April Fool's Day joke tradition.

Source : Wikipedia

Everything is old.
We know all that already and we have threads for all those things on the forum.
BTW, we will not include class genders becouse it is useless, timeconsuming & takes alot of filesize.

Please people, check the forum before posting stuff like that. Isnt it obvious that we already know that stuff afterall?

saphiree · Sep 10, 2009

No, we have to tell you the same things like a hundred times!

Cant wait to see the monk btw. Especially when The_Silent have done his job with the spells!

chipheoc7 · Sep 12, 2009

Can you share your inventory system, i really need it, i will make credits.thank you!!!

RiotZ · Sep 12, 2009

Did you guys update and add the new class Monk yet ?????

CloudMax · Sep 12, 2009

No, i will not share the inventory system. It was made for this map, and nothing else, im not sure if i ever will share it.

Doctor-Pepper · Sep 12, 2009

Can you atleast tell what functions you used to make such a frame? Is it all custom Jass?

CloudMax · Sep 12, 2009

I made everything in GUI, that is something that people should know about this system..
I think its like the only 100% GUI inventory system.. it contained thousends of rows in just a single trigger. BUT, we converted it into Jass to make it work more smoothly.
But yes, it was it gui before.

VampireofBlood · Sep 12, 2009

thats alot of freaking work, so i can really understand that he does not want to part it with other users.
Just accept it, there are enough other systems up, here on hive.

chipheoc7 · Sep 12, 2009

T___T, this is the coolest inventory system i ever see. I can't give up easily. If u change ur mind, plz send me [email protected].

VampireofBlood · Sep 12, 2009

chipheoc7 said:
T___T, this is the coolest inventory system i ever see. I can't give up easily. If u change ur mind, plz send me [email protected].

hw wont.
Just give in^^

chipheoc7 · Sep 12, 2009

I thought this inventory system is impossible, good job.

InfernalTater · Sep 12, 2009

i think this map has wonderful art; the terrain, interface, inventory and such are great. the best ive ever seen. but the gameplay could be improved. features such as save/load would be nice. a higher level of abilities and such. the game just doesnt last long enough for an rpg. and it will need more world. im hoping the only reason it lacks these things is because there is not enough footage to make them, and that this will be done when more footage of the real game is released. because it could also use a town.

CloudMax · Sep 12, 2009

TLI-Inferno said:
i think this map has wonderful art; the terrain, interface, inventory and such are great. the best ive ever seen. but the gameplay could be improved. features such as save/load would be nice. a higher level of abilities and such. the game just doesnt last long enough for an rpg. and it will need more world. im hoping the only reason it lacks these things is because there is not enough footage to make them, and that this will be done when more footage of the real game is released. because it could also use a town.

This is not an RPG and was never suppost to be one

BUT, if you read our forum you will find a thread where we plan to restart everything from scratch and make in an ORPG where you can save/load, choose where to go, have vendors, dungeons, quests, etc.

CloudWolf · Sep 12, 2009

TLI-Inferno said:
i think this map has wonderful art; the terrain, interface, inventory and such are great. the best ive ever seen. but the gameplay could be improved. features such as save/load would be nice. a higher level of abilities and such. the game just doesnt last long enough for an rpg. and it will need more world. im hoping the only reason it lacks these things is because there is not enough footage to make them, and that this will be done when more footage of the real game is released. because it could also use a town.

The major drawback of the current map is that there physically isnt any space to add new content

We could always make the map bigger, but if we add any more doodads theres gonna be some serious lag on bnet

arthas_king · Sep 12, 2009

CW, the map has 8mb filesize, so you can add more things withought the serius lag.

Oh and Btw welcome back

saphiree · Sep 12, 2009

Lol. You make it sound like it will lag less, with 8mb after the new patch. So much not true. You can just make an 8mb map now.

CloudMax · Sep 12, 2009

Why would it recude the lag only becouse they changed the limit?
It still have the same lag as before, you can only make the maps bigger like saphiree said.
So the new limit doesnt help us at all at this point

RaiN. · Sep 13, 2009

What makes you think that adding more terrain/doodads/destructable will make the map lag ? The only thing that will change is the maps phisical size wich is currently 2 times lower then what it can be. Face it, you dont have problems with slow download on bnet cuz most of the people dl the map from here...

CloudMax · Sep 13, 2009

RaiN. said:
What makes you think that adding more terrain/doodads/destructable will make the map lag ? The only thing that will change is the maps phisical size wich is currently 2 times lower then what it can be. Face it, you dont have problems with slow download on bnet cuz most of the people dl the map from here...

Dude, you dont really understand what our problem is.
If you try to put like 10000 doodads no each other, tell us if it will decrease the frame rate for you, at all.
We have an insane amount of doodads, and i think that the entire map always is visible? i dont remember if this is true though.

saphiree · Sep 13, 2009

RaiN. said:
What makes you think that adding more terrain/doodads/destructable will make the map lag ? The only thing that will change is the maps phisical size wich is currently 2 times lower then what it can be. Face it, you dont have problems with slow download on bnet cuz most of the people dl the map from here...

Dude. Far from everyone DL on THW. I know many people which haven't got t his map. But luckily we just got our internet upgraded, so it takes the same amount of time to upload an 8mb map now, as it took with a 4mb map before!

RaiN. · Sep 13, 2009

LTGH said:
Dude, you dont really understand what our problem is.
If you try to put like 10000 doodads no each other, tell us if it will decrease the frame rate for you, at all.
We have an insane amount of doodads, and i think that the entire map always is visible? i dont remember if this is true though.

And you're sayin that you will have 10000 doodads soo close that they will all be seen at the same time ?

Sigh...

Super-Sheep · Sep 13, 2009

How many triggers you have running every 0.01/0.02/0.03? It has a lot to with fps. :/

Vercas · Sep 13, 2009

That doesn't necessarily decreases the frames per second.
High number of polygons(which make textures harder to renger), high resolution textures(which are harder to render) and memory leaks(Random Access Memory-eaters) are killers of frames per second.

Super-Sheep · Sep 13, 2009

I change settings from high to low, but it changes only a little.

Diablo III Warcraft Beta v1.19b

Diablo III Warcraft Beta v1.19b (Map)