Dark Times & Good Times

[Samuraid]

We will not be getting an IRC server here. Not only would it require a significant amount of work to bring it to the level of features and integration that the current chatroom offers, but IRC tends to be a higher-risk DoS target (yes it is, in fact, as much as you don't want it to be), and the current server and connection are nowhere near sufficiently protected to host an IRC server. Not to mention, hosting IRC is against many ISP's Acceptable Use Policies.

 

[Quack_Kills.]

Long live the Hive! Even to us newcomers the hive has been a sanctuary in times of resource crisis! I have learned more here than any other wc3 site. anyways... yeah... long live the hive! (and check out my icon resources...)

 

[varsaigen]

samuraid, you stated some information that may have been stated in earlier posts but you clerified it. Thank you for helping those who may not have understood. And I agree with you.

 

[Ham Ham]

Oh no! Hive cant fail!
Wc3camps suck!

 

[XS-Archangel]

it can be dead when you see so many people on it, discussing, showing, contesting etc

 

[NearbyHermit]

Ralle,what about Mr.Wolverabids projects?

The Avatars,Contests?

 

[DarkIron Dwarf]

If hive fails were we going to go now mon

 

[NearbyHermit]

TheHelper will make try to make advantage of our good members and donors.Down with TheHelper long live The Hive

 

[emperor_d3st]

I would prefer all three major Wc3 modding sites to be up and running nicely
I don't have an idea why would you want any of them down, it's childish and if it would really happen that would hit the modding community like a roundhouse kick.

 

[NearbyHermit]

Well,arent we all humans,unity isnt our major advantage.

TheHelper would want to be on first place on top websites

 

[Pyritie]

Well,arent we all humans,unity isnt our major advantage.

TheHelper would want to be on first place on top websites

Why are you suddenly bashing TheHelper? This is a thread about why hive is/isn't dying, not what's wrong with other sites.

 

[Arvedui]

yes, this off-topic is ridiculous. IRCs are not going to hurt/help the hive.
TheHelper has no relevance to anything that we are discussing.
this was about moderators leaving and coming. And if that was bad or good.
in no way did it involve any other site.

 

[NearbyHermit]

Things will turn bad if moderators will be gone,Hive will fall from this view:

-All the experimented moderators will leave
-Newly members will have to take their place ; and by this thing Hive will be ruined,at the hands of unexperimented people

 

[Rui]

Not every new member is an idiot. Loosing moderators does not mean they'll be replaced by newbies. Moderators are promoted to do their job and demoted when they decide to leave or they quit, they are not replaced in any way. There is no magical gap that always needs to be filled.

 

[varsaigen]

exactly. This is no void in the site. Also, this thread is going way off topic. *sigh* This is becoming a debate.

 

[Arvedui]

it's been a debate for the past... 15 pages lol

 

[NearbyHermit]

Not every new member is an idiot. Loosing moderators does not mean they'll be replaced by newbies. Moderators are promoted to do their job and demoted when they decide to leave or they quit, they are not replaced in any way. There is no magical gap that always needs to be filled.

Rui here you are wrong,you arent loosing just a moderator,that person had some skills ,a different touch.

You for example,in my oppinion,you are the worlds bestest terrainer.If you would leave and another member would take your place,would he be the worlds best terrainer?I say No!

 

[Pyritie]

You for example,in my oppinion,you are the worlds bestest terrainer.If you would leave and another member would take your place,would he be the worlds best terrainer?I say No!

If MadseN became the terraining forum moderator...

 

[NearbyHermit]

Personally,nobody surpasses Rui ; Ending this

Even you Py,would any other member have you cuddlyness?

 

[Rui]

Please stay on-topic, I don't like my skills to be compared.
To be honest, I'm not up to date with these UTM things and terrainers like MadseN do things that I feel I wouldn't be capable of doing (sincerely I don't even have the patience to do them).
Today I limit myself to commenting others' work.

Rui here you are wrong,you arent loosing just a moderator,that person had some skills ,a different touch.
(...)

Then again, you can't be sure that the new staff member doesn't have skills, that all new moderators will be worse than the previous. They may be skilled not in detail 1 but in detail 2. Old moderators are not unique relics.

 

[Hakeem]

Not only would it require a significant amount of work to bring it to the level of features and integration that the current chatroom offers

Features? Are you kidding? Implementing the features would be one tenth of the IRC spec. Unless you mean the features that are part of being in a webpage, but this is not a problem, as the client side of the chat need not change for an IRC server.

 

[varsaigen]

Features? Are you kidding? Implementing the features would be one tenth of the IRC spec. Unless you mean the features that are part of being in a webpage, but this is not a problem, as the client side of the chat need not change for an IRC server.

If you noticed, we aren't talking about IRC anymore

And yes, the debate has been 15 pages. And no one klnows whether new mods are total noobs or might be vital to the site. Only time (and mana) will tell!

 

[Anduril]

Does anyone know where Elenai went? If he's gone, I can only assume that he has commited Epic Suicide. There is no other reason he would leave us.
On the bright side, (thinks)
(thinks more)
(gives up)
Anyway, I know that there are many faithful who will stand by this site.
NEVER GIVE UP, NEVER SURRENDER!!!!

 

[Instant Ramen]

You might actually end up useful for the community and not be a total moron. Now THAT is rare.

Well, maybe I am a moron, but a total moron? That's a bit much.

 

[Direfury]

"PARTY REP" sound familiar, Ramen? Sounds 'total' to me.

 

[Instant Ramen]

Hmm. "Petty Insult Throwing". At least some of us learn from our mistakes, †-Revellion-†.

 

[emperor_d3st]

Features? Are you kidding? Implementing the features would be one tenth of the IRC spec. Unless you mean the features that are part of being in a webpage, but this is not a problem, as the client side of the chat need not change for an IRC server.

What he said. But nevermind, I don't care anymore. It's about time you grab a bible and nails and crucify the IRC-people here. :S

On a more serious matter. This thread has became pretty twisted. Everyone is ranting offtopic, browning noses or talking about unrelevant stuff.
Edit - Forgot to mention: Opera beats FireFox any day, punk.

 

[varsaigen]

How many pages will this thread take until it ends? 100??? If this continues, it easily might...

 

[NearbyHermit]

Well,if you guys dont know,I once started a forum war here at Hive,pages with giant posts and flamming


http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36498&highlight=So+much+Un-english

Dark/Good Times was suppose to be a thread about what are we going to do to prevent Hive from shutting down.But its going way off-topic

 

[Pyritie]

Does anyone know where Elenai went? If he's gone, I can only assume that he has commited Epic Suicide. There is no other reason he would leave us.

He's on holiday.

 

[TheDivineBoss]

That's what you think, _{I hope he is at the bottom of a bridge though} D:

 

[Rui]

The original post does not have a theme, it simply speaks of the Hive. The themes we're debating are all around the Hive, so the chat is not off-topic.

 

[NearbyHermit]

Ah,the problem is everywhere,there are hostile websites everywhere.All made against the Hive.

 

[Instant Ramen]

Ah,the problem is everywhere,there are hostile websites everywhere.All made against the Hive.

Please list these sites, if you will.

 

[NearbyHermit]

Well,I dont have to,former members of Hive grow strong on other websites and they start to flame what happened here.

 

[Instant Ramen]

Maybe because we have a significant problem going on right now.

 

[ike_ike]

The DotA forum meanwhile seems to be having a good time trawling through the resource section here.

loool
lolwut
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Pyritie!

It seems that DotA might keep this place alive for the moment. Even though their forum is also infested by retards etc.

 

[NearbyHermit]

Ike,you should visit the Dota thread,we debated that Dotards use Hive as the main source of material

 

[Pyritie]

Pyritie!

I'm being argued over! I feel loved!

 

[NearbyHermit]

Py you have some fans and they profit from us.

 

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

Well, maybe I am a moron, but a total moron? That's a bit much.

It was a compliment, I was referring to the fact that most new members are morons, not you.

Silly Ramen.

 

[NearbyHermit]

Ramen you are a special member,the morons that WILL reffer to them are those who do this:

Write like this:
HAI CULD I HAV SAME N4RUT0 MUDLZ
And as they are neg repped and have a dossage of reality,they leave out crying.And by the way,they dont even upload an avatar and have like 15 posts

 

[Instant Ramen]

It was a compliment, I was referring to the fact that most new members are morons, not you.

Silly Ramen.

I was joking.

 

[NearbyHermit]

Well,couldnt we do something like,be more restrictive with these members,point them what to do,exactly like you would do to a baby

 

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

I was joking.

Silly Ramen.

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[NearbyHermit]

Come on guys,what are we suppose to prove,we are going off topic in a thread like this

 

[HINDYhat]

There is nothing left to prove because the only valid solution has been pointed out by myself in earlier pages that I'm too lazy to browse through. Now, seriously, this should be locked or at least dealt with by someone. -.-'

I predict 40 retards will reply to this saying 'omg ya liek clos da thred n stop spamin'. b moar ironic plz.

 

[Luthion]

"omg ya liek clos da thred n stop spamin"
Anyways. yeah thread should be closed.

 

[Hakeem]

• Threads can be cleaned.
• You don't need to read threads.
• Moderators will close threads when needed.
• Who would dare close Ralle's threads?

 

[varsaigen]

I don't know why someone would close Ralle's threads... and I agree with the noobtard stuff. I see plenty of them around the site. Although, if we send them crying, then we wouldn't have a problem (except they tell others we are mean people) XD