Customizable Effects (+ a tool)

[Moderator]

22:36, 29th Mar 2016
HappyTauren: Although there's not much "model" to speak of, I'll approve this due to its inherent usefulness, and the obvious "why didn't I think of this" factor.

But I'll suggest you to make a pack of these since this, by and of itself, is a bit short on utility as-is (even though what it does it does very well).

 

[Ardenian]

Wow, decent!
I did not know you can add attachments this way to a unit. Now I know what Path is for.

 

[Kyrbi0]

So, wait... If I understand this correctly, this custom model can be easily modified in Magos to feature pretty much any model you want in place of the balls/sparks, and it will put that model spinning in a loop around the target (like Lightning Shield/Blood Mage Balls)??

That is absolutely fantastic.

 

[JesusHipster]

So, wait... If I understand this correctly, this custom model can be easily modified in Magos to feature pretty much any model you want in place of the balls/sparks, and it will put that model spinning in a loop around the target (like Lightning Shield/Blood Mage Balls)??

That is absolutely fantastic.

Yes, that's correct, thank you.

 

[Callahan]

It should be more of a tutorial or something.
Right now this model is just a spinner with 4 empty attach point.
If the user has to edit the model himself to make it work it's not really a finished model.

 

[JesusHipster]

It should be more of a tutorial or something.
Right now this model is just a spinner with 4 empty attach point.
If the user has to edit the model himself to make it work it's not really a finished model.

Both models have stuff attached to them, the tutorial is on changing it. In the first case it's a spirit of vengeance missile (red lightning shield) in the second its Kael's spheres.

When someone searches for a buff model he can stumble across this and modify it for his needs with a couple of clicks. I think releasing it as a model makes it more accecible. I've already done it with applying shadow to a texture, progress and hp/mp bars. The progress bar thing got kinda popular, so I don't see it as a bad way to promote an idea.

 

[teozamait]

I think having it in the model section has its advantages, most of the work is done for you and people are more likely to browse this part of the website over others, allowing someone to "stumble" over this model.

On the other hand, if this was a tutorial a person actively looking for such a feature would have an easier time finding it since there are significantly less tutorials than models.

Anyway, I think it is a very useful model, well done!

 

[Hantoo]

I was wondering? If someone could write a simple userfriendly code to alter the thing XD I wonder if .bat could do that XD

 

[Ardenian]

Hm, I tried to attach the Necroppolis building, but it does not appear, just casts a green light on the Hero Blood Mage depending on his facing.
The building might either be too big/else concepted than an effect or I messed up the setting.

 

[JesusHipster]

Hm, I tried to attach the Necroppolis building, but it does not appear, just casts a green light on the Hero Blood Mage depending on his facing.
The building might either be too big/else concepted than an effect or I messed up the setting.

That's curious. I haven't tested it myself with this model, but Necropolis itself model doesn't have a light emmiter. That draws me to a conclusion that it's connected with Necropolis utilising shared undead birth model. Maybe that's the problem. Maybe it a bit too much too much to have an attachement with an attached attachement.

However it shouldn't be a problem, considering you can already do pretty much all sorts of fucked up shit, like floating barrels, red and blue lightning shields, rotating footmans and so on.

If you are doing tests of the model i would be glad to see what you came up with BTW.

 

[Kyrbi0]

This thread should just become a slideshow of every conceivable model attachment. xD

 

[JesusHipster]

A user on XGM brought up that there already was a model of this sort on THW: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/orbiting-effect-48288/?prev=search=kael&d=list&r=20

That's a shame i wasn't the first one to upload it here. It's also a shame this idea was forgotten. I can only say that mine tutorial and execution provides more usability to the concept.

edit: attached the new effect inspired by that of Horn here just in case

 

[Arad MNK]

I believe this will solve a lot of problems. Looks indeed decent.

 

[MetalKing1417]

Nice. Is there something similar for the cluster rockets missile? Because I am sure a lot of people would appreciate the ability to make their missiles look like they are traveling somewhat randomly without a bunch of triggers.

 

[JesusHipster]

Nice. Is there something similar for the cluster rockets missile? Because I am sure a lot of people would appreciate the ability to make their missiles look like they are traveling somewhat randomly without a bunch of triggers.

Thank you very much, that's a great idea. I'l get to it when i'm done with my bachelor thesis.

 

[Ardenian]

Hm, now it suddenly popped up out of the nowhere

If I scale the bones, does the attachment scales, too ?
Haven't tested yet, but just for interest.

 

[JesusHipster]

Hm, now it suddenly popped up out of the nowhere

If I scale the bones, does the attachment scales, too ?
Haven't tested yet, but just for interest.

If it pops out after some time than it means that the problem was with an event object. That thing atached a different model to a model attached to the customizable buff which was later attached to a unit. That's fun.

The physical part of it scales. The particles don't. (edit: sometimes they do though) You can also make those billboarded if you want to. Then it will always face camera.

Why are there six necropolises though and why do you need it? It's just curiosity

 

[Ardenian]

Hm, I see, thank you, I thought it is caused by the Birth animation playing.

It could allow to make models with parts rotating around it easily, like the Dalaran Citadel.
Simple attaching using this model.

I don't know why there are six ones, I only edited the path.

 

[JesusHipster]

Hm, I see, thank you, I thought it is caused by the Birth animation playing.

It could allow to make models with parts rotating around it easily, like the Dalaran Citadel.
Simple attaching using this model.

I don't know why there are six ones, I only edited the path.

Well it is caused by it's birth animation. The point is that around half of it's birth animation is not included in the model, but in the other model called UndeadBirth or something.

Anyways i wouldn't advice using undead or nightelved or naga buildings with this model and i can't guarantee that it will work as intended with them.

 

[JesusHipster]

In order to make life easier for everyone i encourage people who use this to upload the combinations they came up with hiere. Yay!

 

[infrenus]

In order to make life easier for everyone i encourage people who use this to upload the combinations they came up with hiere. Yay!

I dont know, an thread on the modelling foruns could be better. Then we could make an library of edited spells for people to search instead of a long you need to scroll down.

Also, love that lil model, without me using it I already know its very useful!

 

[Marcos_M]

This is amazingly clever, really helps out non-modelers to make some of his ideas became real, 5 out of five

 

[Duhcake]

I tried using the devour magic missile, but it seems to just play the death animation and disappear ingame. Any ideas on how to fix this?

 

[Ardenian]

Yes, Duhcake, my guess is that this attachment plays the first animation, key frame based.
The death animation of the devour missile has the key frame range 0 - 2333,
that means it will be played when using it with this attachment.
You could be able to fix this by simply changing the sequence names of Death and Stand,
in this case.

 

[JesusHipster]

Updated: proper death animations, more effects and utility and most importantly an actual programm to simplify customization even futher. Yay!

 

[Kyrbi0]

Even awexomer. Retera is the MVP. : )

 

[Eagle XI]

Genius! 6/5

 

[Azoth]

Can't start the program ... it says i have no java installed ...

 

[JesusHipster]

Can't start the program ... it says i have no java installed ...

It requires Java, that's right. It's sort of thing one should have installed on PC by default even these days. Go get it, it won't take you more than five minutes

 

[JesusHipster]

So hey. Some guy on XGM asked if this tool could make auras. Truth is he is a complete asshole who thinks that this is a sort of magical effect maker that can do the same job as Model Editor but with no effort of knowledge. Which this tool is not. But i've figured how to make auras (kinda). Updated the tool.

By the way. Anyone can add new "base" models to it. Just throw it into the base foldier. I'l gladly update the tool with new base models if someone comes up with something. Cheers.

 

[antonio.piczon321]

How can you import models on the JesusHipsterAttachments Tool?

 

[JesusHipster]

How can you import models on the JesusHipsterAttachments Tool?

If i understood you right here is the answer to your question.

By the way. Anyone can add new "base" models to it. Just throw it into the base foldier.

 

[antonio.piczon321]

If i understood you right here is the answer to your question.

So I just put the models to the base folder and I can customize it, like Blood Mage's three sphere orb thingee?

 

[JesusHipster]

So I just put the models to the base folder and I can customize it, like Blood Mage's three sphere orb thingee?

well, prior to need you would need to edit the model, but yes

you know, those "base" models consist of ref points and animations, nothing else

if you just upload a model from warcraft you could permanently attach and scale an effect to them

 

[Tal'Rarity]

Aditionaly check out the system that allows customization in World Editor via JAZZ.

Could you fix the link? Kind of interested in the system.

 

[hemmedo]

for some reason am having compile error for dummy sphere system as parse and missing endfunction error:S...how am I gonna fix it?

 

[Aleister]

Very useful for all that have little experience with jass.

 

[The Witch King]

Java has not been found on your computer. do you want to download it?
nothing will happen when pressing ok

 

[Trokkin]

I saw on the screenshot that angle of all models rotating around is always equal to unit's angle, not codirectional to velocity of effect (I didn't test it though). I guess that without some work with basic model this can't be fixed and until then it can be aesthetic only with ball-like effects?

 

[JesusHipster]

I saw on the screenshot that angle of all models rotating around is always equal to unit's angle, not codirectional to velocity of effect (I didn't test it though). I guess that without some work with basic model this can't be fixed and until then it can be aesthetic only with ball-like effects?

If you are talking about the ingame effects that are attached to the customizable dummy then they are not equal to unit's angle, but rather the camera angle. It's because of basic model's nature, yeah. Can be fixed but with edit to the original wc3 models, yeah.

Though there is laziness of my side as well - the angle of some of the models could be equal to the speed and direction of velocity of the effect (or whatever), but I didn't bother myself with calculating how much should I rotate each attachment so that effects perfectly follow a circular pattern for each of 4 base circling models that come with the tool.

 

[Trokkin]

If you are talking about the ingame effects that are attached to the customizable dummy then they are not equal to unit's angle, but rather the camera angle. It's because of basic model's nature, yeah. Can be fixed but with edit to the original wc3 models, yeah.

Though there is laziness of my side as well - the angle of some of the models could be equal to the speed and direction of velocity of the effect (or whatever), but I didn't bother myself with calculating how much should I rotate each attachment so that effects perfectly follow a circular pattern for each of 4 base circling models that come with the tool.

Is it really just a pattern of movement instead of pre-calculated set of points? (I haven't work with wc3 models, so I have only my suggestions) Because if it is a set, then there should be also angle mentioned next to each point - that can be changed just by calculating it with some formulas.

 

[JesusHipster]

Is it really just a pattern of movement instead of pre-calculated set of points? (I haven't work with wc3 models, so I have only my suggestions) Because if it is a set, then there should be also angle mentioned next to each point - that can be changed just by calculating it with some formulas.

It's a single bone rotating with 1\2\3\4 attachement points (with effects) around it. Yeah, I know that it's calculate-able, I'd have to just rotate them once basically and everything will be cool. But as I mentioned above, I was too lazy to bother myself with calculating it only for just a handful of wc3 effects that are not locked in space.

There is a plenty of effects that this won't be noticeable with though. You might like to stick to using those if it bothers your so much. Or edit my base model and I will update the tool archive c:

 

[Trokkin]

There is a plenty of effects that this won't be noticeable with though. You might like to stick to using those if it bothers your so much. Or edit my base model and I will update the tool archive c:

I'd be glad doing this if only I had spare time/energy to learn how to work with models... If only. And until it is done...

and until then it can be aesthetic only with ball-like effects

for sure. I find it a good thing to experiment with, so when I'll need one another cool effect, I'd try to create something awesome and then probably share it here.

It could be even better if you won't be so lazy, but it's still nice work worth using. GJ!

 

[Trigger.edge]

@JesusHipster Why can not I see the models in the editor? (your tool)

 

[JesusHipster]

@JesusHipster Why can not I see the models in the editor? (your tool)

Because effects are rendered ingame. Do you see them while WC3 is running?

 

[Trigger.edge]

Do you see them while WC3 is running?

I say this:

 

[JesusHipster]

I say this:

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Be careful to read the description and ask Retera who made actually coded the thing. I can only suggest you to look at the models in WE or ME and hope that this glitch won't stop you from using the tool. Cheers.

 

[jonbon29]

Very useful!

 

[blackovercoat]

can i use this to edit orb of Fire effect? , the effect that has a fire orb rotating around the weapon.