Curse of the Forsaken v3.0.1

[kahtwoloo]

I think Tomo fixed that one.

how do i get an update? its still there on mine and i dl'd it just a couple days ago.

also i think i found a minor bug. on mission 8 pt2 at the part where you come across garrosh, there's a prompt that says "blah blah blah spikes die." well i noticed if you summon wolves with thrall at a certain spot a wolf can pop on the platform garrosh is and you can bypass the traps. im pretty sure thats not how you intended it this spot to be played. maybe there's a way to trigger the trap disable for only non-summon units.

edit:

while its on my mind; i actually started a couple missions in because i accidentally deleted the campaign and i didnt want to replay the missions i already beat. so every time i start a mission im a couple levels back and no items from previous levels carry over. i dont remember if its just like that or fixable or anything.

 

[Death_Row17]

Wow! Excellent map! The storyline was great! The cinematic was really great! But the only problem I have with me is... most scenes in the cinematic wasn't dubbed and some was dubbed. That makes it a problem for me, not exactly a problem but a satisfaction for me was decreased because of that. Make the conversation in a scene dubbed. Example of this was the time when Jaina received the locket with a "Wha!?!"(XD) dubbed then Vereesa was like muted in that conversation. Also Jaina's first skill was so weak! It's like tossing enemies in air and unhurt when landed. Please change her first skill or please give her skill more damage, pleeeeaaaassssse...?! That's all! But every other things in your map was really G-R-E-A-T!!!! Thanks a lot for the entertainment!!!!

CAN'T WAIT FOR THE PART TWO!!!! Wait when will it be? Please make it sooner! ^_^

 

[Sclammerz]

CAN'T WAIT FOR THE PART TWO!!!! Wait when will it be? Please make it sooner! ^_^

I think tomoraider will not make a part 2 of it!

 

[kahtwoloo]

i found another bug. at the end of mission 10 where you pick your two heroes for mission 11, well.. i didn't let me pick my second hero and the first wasn't there at the start of the mission. anyways i think im at a point where i can give a fair review. so ill make another post

 

[kahtwoloo]

lets start with a few things first. ive been playing wc3 since tft came out pretty much. ive beaten all the campaigns on hard a few times. its one of the only rts games ive taken super serious. most of my gameplay on here is on ladder 1v1 and its one of the only games i take seriously. if fact, the only reason i quit 1v1 last year is because the only players id lose to were ex pros and players that would specialize in one race and master it (i played random). that being said, i was never really interested in custom except for a few lotr maps for a couple months and a couple months on the earlier versions of DOTA (which i HATE). now that im getting that wc3 itch i decided to check out custom campaigns. considering my background, here's what i thought.

this campaign is high fucking quality. better than the original blizzard campaigns hands down. i dont even know where to start or how to organize all my thoughts so ill just make a list.

-every mission is unique
-the forsaken race feels like a race official blizzard race
-the unique skins, textures, etc are extremely well done
-loved how the missions 'flow' (finish one mission then other areas of the map open up)
-the details, it feels like you used EVERY possible trigger, feature whatever possible (the torch on the northrend mission for example)
-the custom music was just epic

here's where i think you can improve

-given your huge map sizes, i feel you can give the starting bases on some of the missions more area to work with
-squad based missions. the problem i had with these were they were too easy. i literally never used the additional units until the very last fight.
- someone else mentioned

i have to be honest, i didnt really pay attention of the writing/story. ive always hated blizzard writing so i didnt bother on this campaign. however i did watch a few of the cinematics and can say theyre expertly done.

ill definately be trying out rise of the blood elves sometime soon

 

[tomoraider]

Kahtwoloo and DeathRow17, thanks, glad you liked it. Kahtwoloo, thanks for reporting those bugs, also since you said you watched a few cinematics, I assume you skipped a couple, so perhaps you skipped the one in Chapter Ten and the bug happened.

 

[kahtwoloo]

Kahtwoloo and DeathRow17, thanks, glad you liked it. Kahtwoloo, thanks for reporting those bugs, also since you said you watched a few cinematics, I assume you skipped a couple, so perhaps you skipped the one in Chapter Ten and the bug happened.

well this is exactly how it happened. i completed mission ten, skipped the cinematic, then the option to chose my hero came. i chose the first one, then the second screen came up. i chose and proceeded to the next mission. neither of them were there.

i decided to try it again so i went into mission 10 again through the campaign screen and used the cheat to end the mission victoriously, skipped the cinema, was asked about the first hero, chose, then it showed the second menu and skipped straight to the next mission without letting me chose.

edit

one more i remembered. this wasnt too much of a problem but on mission 10 i did notice that the blood elves 'got stuck' after tping to my base one for a couple min. not really sure what triggered it but after they repelled the attack at my base the just stood in a cluster going into each other trying to make their way back to the front. after a couple min i killed a few units myself and nothing happened. the eventually made their way back on their own. it only happened once though

 

[Death_Row17]

I think tomoraider will not make a part 2 of it!

I thought they will make their continuation of the story entitled Shadow of Blood?! tomoraider you gonna continue this right?

 

[Sclammerz]

I thought they will make their continuation of the story entitled Shadow of Blood?! tomoraider you gonna continue this right?

Yes, there's a continuation titled shadow of blood but there will be no curse of the forsaken part 2!

 

[tomoraider]

Kahtwoloo, yeah, I'll need to fix that. I thought it worked, but it seems it doesn't. About the blood elves, it seems the AI sometimes just kind of bugs itself. I don't really think I can fix that.

DeathRow17, yes, like Sclammerz said, I'm working on Shadow of Blood.

Also, 30k downloads and 5k downloads in the last month? That's. A lot. Thanks to all who played it!

 

[korwgian]

chapter 8 interlude

the chapter 8 interlude isnt working for me, it just shows a black screen. any1 else have the same problem??

 

[Go'el]

You need of the newest version of Warcraft. Click in the Battle.net button in the main menu to download it.

 

[James Raphael]

This is a kind of map that we can call masterpiece with your great effort and critical thinking you just make a map that is Amazing...

 

[ga_xjnk]

tomoraider, it's not only about Curse of the Forsaken but also Rise of the BloodElf. Can you stop or make beginning-time of each chapter be same (before and after beginning-video)? It's hard if i play normally but it's easy if i cancel beginning-video (Sorry i dont remember what name it is lol) because i have more time to prepare and in some chapter, enemies don't attack me before i attack them )

 

[tomoraider]

tomoraider, it's not only about Curse of the Forsaken but also Rise of the BloodElf. Can you stop or make beginning-time of each chapter be same (before and after beginning-video)? It's hard if i play normally but it's easy if i cancel beginning-video (Sorry i dont remember what name it is lol) because i have more time to prepare and in some chapter, enemies don't attack me before i attack them )

I'm sorry, I don't understand what you mean by beginning time. Could you explain a bit more?

 

[BiroN]

I think he means the prelude

 

[Namiseru]

I played it, and I enjoyed it enormously! I almost cried when it ended. xD It was really interesting and I hope you create more campaigns, since they're really entertaining.

 

[tomoraider]

I played it, and I enjoyed it enormously! I almost cried when it ended. xD It was really interesting and I hope you create more campaigns, since they're really entertaining.

Thanks, glad you liked it.

 

[MogulKahn]

Can you tell me where did you find that Phaelynne model? Thanks in advance ! =D

 

[tomoraider]

Can you tell me where did you find that Phaelynne model? Thanks in advance ! =D

It's a skin, I believe it's called Rilrae Thraele, but I don't think it's on Hive anymore.

 

[Sclammerz]

Oh? That's why I couldn't find it too.

 

[ga_xjnk]

I'm sorry, I don't understand what you mean by beginning time. Could you explain a bit more?

beginning time is the first video of each chapter. But i'm sorry, i want to say about something will happen when skip video or not skip

Example:
Sylvanas can be killed at Chapter Five - A Rallying Point when heroes are talking in first video.

Or in Rise of the BloodElf, at Chapter Four - Ghost of the Pasts, when Aewynne finds her base, i skipped video. Dar'khan and arcane golems didn't attack me before i attack them. So it's easier, i can kill all undead before meeting Lor'Themar

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not bug but i think chapter A Rallying Point is really hard, i played more than 40 times and still lose in 30 minutes can you give me an idea? Thank you.

 

[ForsakenShoe]

Can someone please tell me what the music is in chapter 11 when you start to battle Phaelynne? I just cant find it. Thanks!

 

[tomoraider]

not bug but i think chapter A Rallying Point is really hard, i played more than 40 times and still lose in 30 minutes can you give me an idea? Thank you.

Forgot to respond, sorry. And unfortunately, I don't have any advice... I forgot what the best tactic is there.

Can someone please tell me what the music is in chapter 11 when you start to battle Phaelynne? I just cant find it. Thanks!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4tUuj-Shvs

 

[ForsakenShoe]

Thanks!
One more question. I've finished the campaign and I want to replay it but I'd like to increase the difficulty somehow... Is that possible?
When I check under gameplay when I am playing it always says normal. Is it possible to put it on hard?

 

[Go'el]

I'll give you some tips:

For some reason, the AI is focusing in Garrosh and Jaina (when he's not there), keep him really close to Thrall, use his abilities as best as you can, first summon the wolves, then the healing toten (I know, the fire one looks great, but you'll need of something to heal yourself), and then use the Chain Lighting.
Sylvanas have an excelent ultra, summon the ghosts, use the Holw of Terror ( I guess is that the name), and then turn on the auto-cast of the slow ability. Turn on the Dark Arrow (Sylvanas) to rise skeletons while fighting. Jaina have some great abilities too, use her water summon, and use that ability that make the enemies 'jump' and stun. I don't remember what are Garrosh's abilities, but I THINK he have a Roar like ability, use it.
And remember, there's a fountain of health inside Orgrimmar, always send the heroes there after each fight, doesn't matter if you didn't lost much HP. And fight close to the allies (the Horde, AI) to make sure that you won't take all the damage, but don't let them fight alone, or they'll lose.

 

[Bogoj]

Helpp

Guys some custom campaigns i download i cannot play bcs it says just another wc3 campaign ? What should i do is ther something to do ?

 

[tomoraider]

Guys some custom campaigns i download i cannot play bcs it says just another wc3 campaign ? What should i do is ther something to do ?

Redownload it, it might have gotten corrupted when you downloaded it.

 

[ga_xjnk]

I'll give you some tips:

For some reason, the AI is focusing in Garrosh and Jaina (when he's not there), keep him really close to Thrall, use his abilities as best as you can, first summon the wolves, then the healing toten (I know, the fire one looks great, but you'll need of something to heal yourself), and then use the Chain Lighting.
Sylvanas have an excelent ultra, summon the ghosts, use the Holw of Terror ( I guess is that the name), and then turn on the auto-cast of the slow ability. Turn on the Dark Arrow (Sylvanas) to rise skeletons while fighting. Jaina have some great abilities too, use her water summon, and use that ability that make the enemies 'jump' and stun. I don't remember what are Garrosh's abilities, but I THINK he have a Roar like ability, use it.
And remember, there's a fountain of health inside Orgrimmar, always send the heroes there after each fight, doesn't matter if you didn't lost much HP. And fight close to the allies (the Horde, AI) to make sure that you won't take all the damage, but don't let them fight alone, or they'll lose.

thank you Go'el, i'll try

 

[Sclammerz]

Well, I have finished your campaign and all I can say this is great, I really really like it but unfortunately there are some "bugs" that I have encountered. Here is it:

Chapter One: When I destroy the main scarlet crusade base, no ending cinematic happen and it did not continue to chapter two, sylvanas and varimarthras just stayed there. Well I open your campaign in the world editor to show the chapter two button to be at chapter two. It's kinda weird.
Chapter Eightart One: when i am going to battle anuba'rak when I escaped the cinematic, my heroes just stopped and nothing moves and also anubara'k too. Well I replay it and I just didn't escaped the cinematic to avoid that.
Chapter Eleven: Well in this when I picked veressa in the previous chapter she never appear and either lor'themar, he just said something but he does not there, my heroes was just jaina and sylvanas. It was really weird that I have encountered these bugs.

But over all it was great! Epic! "IMBA" xD. Overall 5/5. +Rep. Great efforts you have put at your campaigns. Wish you luck! at your incoming projects if you have any..

Edit: oh, I forgot to mention the Finale: Edge of the night was epic. I really like it a lot and also Raymond too. Well thanks for making this.

 

[ga_xjnk]

At last i finished this campaign 5/5

The last map, i had killed both Sylvanas and Undertaken Mordo before they ordered but they still talk and give me quests (funny)

* where can i find next campaign? Shadow of Blood or Blood of Shadow, whatever XD

@Sclammerz: don't choose veressa first. And if you play again, you should save-game before bring keys to the gate. So you can attack Arthas more times with other heroes

 

[Sclammerz]

Well, I have replay the campaign and the bugs that I mention did not happened again but for chapter one is still the same! Well for shadow of Blood it was not released yet but it has a thread in the map development forum.

 

[Relendril]

forsaken catapilt

wow model

 

[Diljabar]

The game crashes while trying to load the first mission.

 

[Adunai]

In the changelog, there are two versions called v2.0.2. And when I download it, I download Curse of the Forsaken v2.0.

Rise of the Blood Elves campaign is updated properly, both the changelog (v.2.2) and the file name (Rise of the Blood Elves v2.2). Do you intend to make the appropriate changes to Curse of the Forsaken? Should it be v2.0 (as the title implies) or v2.1? Should the title be changed then?

Anyway, I'm nitpicking. That's an exceptionally great news that you pay attention to your previous campaigns, Tomoraider!

P.S. Is there any way to import RotBE UI to the whole game?

 

[tomoraider]

Oops, did not notice I named it wrong. Thanks for pointing that out.

 

[creyzi4zb12]

Will try this one out...been looking for good Campaigns

 

[Raxistaicho]

I'm a little curious why you left Gargs among the Forsaken tech tree. You removed all the other units associated with Northrend or the Cult of the Damned, but Gargs are FROM Northrend.

 

[tomoraider]

Wow, I don't I ever actually knew they were from Northrend. Guess I also confused them with the bats Forsaken have in WoW.

 

[Raxistaicho]

Wow, I don't I ever actually knew they were from Northrend. Guess I also confused them with the bats Forsaken have in WoW.

Yeah. You first see Gargs in the Human Campaign of RoC during the first of the Northrend chapters, the same time you first see Fiends during the same campaign, and Arthas outright says he brought the Gargs back with him from Northrend during the Silvermoon chapter of the RoC Undead campaign.

The Warcraft Wiki even says this of them:

The dreaded gargoyles of Northrend are voracious flying creatures who revel in slaughter and mayhem. Brought from the frozen north by the armies of the Lich King...

That said, this isn't a big deal. The Lich King was said to like Frost Wyrms, and Necromancers, Shades, Fiends, and Acolytes are intelligent undead while Gargs are not, so some of them still being under Sylvanas' control is perfectly reasonable. It's just something that caught my eye because you were careful to remove all the other Scourge-associated units from the Forsaken.

EDIT: Okay, I just played chapter 2 and it makes perfect sense that the Forsaken still have Gargs

 

[MogulKahn]

Yeah. You first see Gargs in the Human Campaign of RoC during the first of the Northrend chapters, the same time you first see Fiends during the same campaign, and Arthas outright says he brought the Gargs back with him from Northrend during the Silvermoon chapter of the RoC Undead campaign.

The Warcraft Wiki even says this of them:



That said, this isn't a big deal. The Lich King was said to like Frost Wyrms, and Necromancers, Shades, Fiends, and Acolytes are intelligent undead while Gargs are not, so some of them still being under Sylvanas' control is perfectly reasonable. It's just something that caught my eye because you were careful to remove all the other Scourge-associated units from the Forsaken.

EDIT: Okay, I just played chapter 2 and it makes perfect sense that the Forsaken still have Gargs

He can just name them Werebat or just simple Bat could do !

 

[Raxistaicho]

Is there any difference between the different colored Val'Kyr?

 

[Sclammerz]

Is there any difference between the different colored Val'Kyr?

Not really, only their colors are different but their stats are the same.

 

[Raxistaicho]

Not really, only their colors are different but their stats are the same.

Huh, that's interesting. I wonder why you'd want both, but oh well.

One thing I must tip my hat off to you about, Tomoraider, is that you're better about portraying genders more equally than Blizzard does. Blizzard's pretty good at it already, but I like the way you've made a few of the base units female (Blood Knights being the most notable example) and that the majority of your original characters were also women (I was actually kinda amused that Lor'Themar is often paired up with 2-3 female heroes at a time throughout the Blood Elf campaign XD).

Whether or not that was intentional, kudos to you.

 

[tomoraider]

For the female characters I used in the campaign, that was deliberate, but from a story point, I didn't really consider genders, it just turned out that there were more female than male characters playable. As for units, I chose models/skins that I thought would fit the best.

 

[Raxistaicho]

I srsly like how the blue force in chapter 4 gets Gargs while teal gets Apoths. Those Gargs saved my ass against the north red base XD All those Gryphons would have torn any attack apart XD

 

[Raxistaicho]

Chapter 5 is proving to be a serious roadblock for me. I'm not sure exactly what I'm doing wrong, but at some point, seemingly at random, one of the two undead forces will just start pumping an endless number of units at one of the two entrances about 10 minutes into the map, and then there's basically nothing I can do to stop it. If I stay there my heroes get slowly whittled down, and then the other force will just attack anyways and take out the base from the other side.

 

[tomoraider]

Yeah, it's quite hard. I can't seem to balance it right... but some people don't find it that hard, though. Maybe it also depends on how the AI turns out that round? Sometimes they don't do the endless attacks, I think.

 

[Sclammerz]

Well, it's really hard though! I never survive it without

Spoiler

Cheating

 

[Raxistaicho]

Yeah, it's quite hard. I can't seem to balance it right... but some people don't find it that hard, though. Maybe it also depends on how the AI turns out that round? Sometimes they don't do the endless attacks, I think.

Yeah, I think Blizzard has pre-set attack waves (at least in the last undead and night-elf missions) explicitly to avoid the cpu suddenly throw an unbeatable attack at you.

I think I've found a pseudo-bug: There's a gold mine to the north of your base in chapter 7, but there's no enough room to build a town hall near it. Was that intentional?

Chapter 8 looks interesting. It's kinda nice to see some old friends