Curse of the Forsaken v3.0.1

[Deleted member 238589]

Is your next campaign going to be voice-acted?

 

[tomoraider]

Is your next campaign going to be voice-acted?

Nope, I don't have voice actors, but I kind of prefer just to use occasional WoW voices only.

 

[Deleted member 238589]

Whatever you decide, I wish you good luck

 

[MogulKahn]

Nope, I don't have voice actors, but I kind of prefer just to use occasional WoW voices only.

Where can I get those voices of Lorthemar and Ranger General girl?

 

[tomoraider]

Where can I get those voices of Lorthemar and Ranger General girl?

They're from World of Warcraft.

 

[Starstalker]

Hi Tomo,
I enjoyed both of your two campaigns, they are really well made!
Just eager to know if there will be an 2.1 version for this campaign? Just like Rise of the Blood Elves v2.1?
Thanks!

 

[tomoraider]

Hi Tomo,
I enjoyed both of your two campaigns, they are really well made!
Just eager to know if there will be an 2.1 version for this campaign? Just like Rise of the Blood Elves v2.1?
Thanks!

Hi, thanks! And v2.1 for RotBE is just called that because I did some moderate-sized changes, such as change the Forsaken race. So, only if I do something like that for CotF would I call it v2.1.

 

[Acciaio]

I've some problems: when a character talks i can't see the windows but to read the message i've to stop the game and open the diary.

 

[tomoraider]

I've some problems: when a character talks i can't see the windows but to read the message i've to stop the game and open the diary.

Your subtitles are probably turned off, you can turn them on in the options menu.

 

[Acciaio]

Ok thanks!

I'm really having fun with your campaign, thanks!

 

[tomoraider]

Ok thanks!

I'm really having fun with your campaign, thanks!

No problem, and thanks.

 

[Deleted member 238589]

After I skipped the cinematic in chapter four (the one where Balnazzar reveals his disguise), Balnazzar randomly dies and does not appear later when Sylvanas is suppose to kill him.

 

[Pokemanharald]

Absolutely loved it, did a playthrough of it on the channel and i love the improvements from the old. Really looking forward to your new project.

 

[tomoraider]

Absolutely loved it, did a playthrough of it on the channel and i love the improvements from the old. Really looking forward to your new project.

Thanks! I actually just noticed your playthrough few days ago, it's quite entertaining.

 

[Atshiel]

I think that were 3 persons who made gameplay about this campaign(i include myself)

EDIT:Btw Tomo i found a thing very funny , i used telekinesis where's Kel'Thuzad it's "channeling" and he has been fly and after that he started to attack , i wouldn't have find out if i didn't see my gameplay xD

 

[ga_xjnk]

Chapter 5... i'm watching the cinema, sylvanas dies and mission failed before beginning

 

[Deleted member 238589]

Chapter 5... i'm watching the cinema, sylvanas dies and mission failed before beginning

The same thing happend to me. Make sure you have the latest version. And it doesn't happend always.

 

[Atshiel]

That only happened to my when i restarted the mission xd

 

[tomoraider]

I think I figured out why that happens. I'll fix it when I do update one day soon.

 

[Deleted member 238589]

Since you're making another updated, I should probably tell you that you forgot to give Val'kyrs the Regenerative Flesh ability. And when I was upgrading a guard tower to coil tower, I accidentally cancelled it and guard tower no longer had mana. But I doubt that anything can be done about the second one.

Good luck on your future projects.

 

[Ardenaso]

I finally played the campaign and I liked it and the non-canon fanfictions. 5/5.

I would like for a sequel for it, like the Battle on Gilneas where (pertaining to the non-canon events) Isiden Perenolde became a Death Knight (Baron Perenolde was a random DK name in melee maps) and he became one of the Forsaken to take revenge on Greymane for failing to help him and since Alterac was a Horde Nation, maybe Perenolde could take it for himself as a Forsaken Hold after assisting Sylvanas on taking Gilneas.

 

[ShadowShaman.mn]

How to open that door in the Northend chapter where blood elves are firstly played? I found one plug on the left side, and I finished the subquest but that didn't change things.

 

[Deleted member 238589]

There is another lever on the left side.

 

[tomoraider]

How to open that door in the Northend chapter where blood elves are firstly played? I found one plug on the left side, and I finished the subquest but that didn't change things.

There are two levers, the one of the left you found, and one on the right that's hidden in the small passage through the trees.

 

[ShadowShaman.mn]

Thank you. I think you should have made the Anubarak killing quest a main quest, not a side quest. The chapter would be tougher and it is more interesting that way.

 

[tomoraider]

Thank you. I think you should have made the Anubarak killing quest a main quest, not a side quest. The chapter would be tougher and it is more interesting that way.

I made it that way because SPOILER

Spoiler

if you don't kill him, he will later appear again in another chapter.

 

[Mistletoe]

Problem with the 2nd Icy Gate Chapter 11

Fucking awesome campaign !!! But I can't finish it due to the 2nd Icy Gate in Chapter 11: Fall of the Lich King, can anyone tell me how to open that GOD DAMN Gate??? Beside, did anyone play the campaign Rise of the Blood Elves v2.1, what is the answer for the first Secret Found, I played through it but still can't solve that question.
p/s: sorry my bad english

 

[Deleted member 238589]

You have to kill

Spoiler

Varimathras

to open the first one, and kill other bosses to open the second one.

 

[tomoraider]

Fucking awesome campaign !!! But I can't finish it due to the 2nd Icy Gate in Chapter 11: Fall of the Lich King, can anyone tell me how to open that GOD DAMN Gate??? Beside, did anyone play the campaign Rise of the Blood Elves v2.1, what is the answer for the first Secret Found, I played through it but still can't solve that question.
p/s: sorry my bad english

Thanks, and just like Imperator said, you need to kill Varimathras. Though, if it's some rare bug, then I can only suggest you replay the map.

 

[ShadowShaman.mn]

Excellent. The ending interlude was pretty scary. I can't await the Cataclysm campaign. I would like if you introduce the night elves there, my favorite race.

 

[Ardenaso]

Just to ask, shouldn't the remaining Crusaders be Risen after Saidan showed his true appearance?

 

[tomoraider]

Excellent. The ending interlude was pretty scary. I can't await the Cataclysm campaign. I would like if you introduce the night elves there, my favorite race.

Thanks, and check out my thread, I did announce few days ago that night elves are the playable race.

Just to ask, shouldn't the remaining Crusaders be Risen after Saidan showed his true appearance?

I personally did not find that important since they would be there only for half a map.

 

[ShadowShaman.mn]

Just perfect! Can't await it.

 

[Mesmerion]

am i the only one who gets the workers not clickable and invisible ..Only with their shadows on the ground ? i can select them if i click on the idle workers icon at left but nothing more :'(

 

[tomoraider]

am i the only one who gets the workers not clickable and invisible ..Only with their shadows on the ground ? i can select them if i click on the idle workers icon at left but nothing more :'(

Hmm, odd. Make sure your Warcraft 3 is updated to the newest patch, or try redownloading the campaign.

 

[Mistletoe]

Thanks, and just like Imperator said, you need to kill Varimathras. Though, if it's some rare bug, then I can only suggest you replay the map.

Damn, the Lich King killed me as I had just got 4 of my hero after defeated Kel'Thuzard. Can't await for your next campaign, also Rise of the Blood Elves is great too

 

[tomoraider]

Damn, the Lich King killed me as I had just got 4 of my hero after defeated Kel'Thuzard. Can't await for your next campaign, also Rise of the Blood Elves is great too

Thanks.

 

[Ardenaso]

So what do you think about my suggestion for a possible Part 2 of Curse of the Forsaken?

 

[tomoraider]

So what do you think about my suggestion for a possible Part 2 of Curse of the Forsaken?

I don't really have an opinion on it since I don't intend to do a sequal to Curse of the Forsaken.

 

[Sclammerz]

This is the best!

 

[itz]

Amazing campaigns...

Tomoraider, your campaigns are just incredible. You should consider adding a donate button to your post so that we can toss you a little something as a thank-you.

This is my review of BOTH RotBE and CotF (halfway done with CotF):

The production level and scale of what you're created is phenomenal. It's amazing to me that you're able to pull these projects off (doing the vast majority of work yourself?) while achieving a level of quality of maybe 75-80% of blizzard campaigns which had the luxury of entire teams of full-time developers.

• The imagery and camera work on the cut scenes is top notch
• The chapters are diverse and offer a lot of challenging game-play
• The story-lines are complex and epic

Bravo, easily 5/5. (Side note: The moderator review by Hell_Master for RotBE is a farce. 73/100 for design?!)

My favorite thing about your campaigns:

Warcraft 3 has a number of inherent game play elements which are very well designed and are what make us love the game.

• Resource management
• Unit composition / army building
• Powerful heroes / micro management in battles
• Epic story-lines

Many campaign creators tend to fall into the trap of creating 'gimmick' gameplay elements using triggers and map features to convince the world of how clever they are (usually failing in the process). Instead, you choose to highlight the above game play elements inherent to the game in new and interesting ways.


Areas for improvement

Since it looks like you will continue on to at least one more campaign, I will also leave a few suggestions for future campaigns.

1) Continue to avoid "gimmick" game-play elements

You do this very well (as I mentioned already above) but just wanted to re-iterate this. For example the "kill less than 50 blood elves" side quest in one of the RotBE levels felt very awkward and artificial to me. Pulling Opposing factions into each other is a fine battle tactic, but it has no place in the plot. (Not to mention directly causing the death of a town of blood elves isn't morally different than killing them yourself).

2) Level difficulty is front-loaded for some levels

I have to agree with a previous post on this topic (I think the RotBE thread) for some of your levels whereby for a 1 hour level, the first 15 minutes is very challenging in terms of difficulty (survive the attacks while getting your upgrades, building up tech tree, and building your army) and the last 45 minutes is fairly easy (steamroll the map, while maybe leaving behind some token defenses).

The act of steamrolling the enemy after building up your army is very satisfying, so I'm not suggesting removing that, but rather just evening out difficulty curve. This can be done in a number of ways, some of which you have already implemented into some of your levels (limited resources forcing you to move out before you run out of money, timers forcing you to meet the next objective in a certain amount of time, having waves of attack get stronger and stronger so that you'll eventually be overwhelmed if you don't take out a base and so on) so I think you're already aware of it.

3) Character dialog is very hit-or-miss

Some of the dialog I thought was very well done (RotBE finale dialog / character interaction was excellent!) But some of it is pretty bad, and parts even seemed like placeholder dialog where the plot is just awkwardly blurted out. So I would give you an A for your story-lines and probably an average grade of B- for the actual dialog. I would suggest starting with a script and getting some help from a writer to polish the dialog prior to implementing it in future campaigns. I'm sure there are many talented writers out there who would love to work with you and contribute on your projects.


Keep up the good work!
-Itz

 

[tomoraider]

Thanks, Itz, I'm glad you like them! Personally, I think since this is simply a hobby of mine, I don't really deserve any money for it. It's something I simply do for fun.

And I agree mostly with what you said about improving. That particular quest was quite unfitting. I kind of felt there should be some kind of quest there and I just came up with this lame one. And actually, I have a friend help me with dialogues and story. In both RotBE and CotF I kept most of my dialogues since I think they're fine, but there are some written by her. You can probably clearly see which dialogues are written by me and which by her.

Thanks again for a nice review!

EDIT: And yes, I make these campaigns myself, aside from the story help.

 

[knight26]

Tomoraider, your campaigns are just incredible. You should consider adding a donate button to your post so that we can toss you a little something as a thank-you.

Thanks, Itz, I'm glad you like them! Personally, I think since this is simply a hobby of mine, I don't really deserve any money for it. It's something I simply do for fun.

Well tomo, I fully agree with itz, even though this is indeed a hobby for you, we're obviously not going to donate a whole lot of bunch. maybe 5-10 dollars, meaning a nice fine dinner for you extra.
And it wont be a necessary thing, just optional. I understand that you might not want money, but perhaps people like me and itz like to appreciate these little things in life, and understand the time and effort it takes to make them.

So please, if you're able, make a donation deposit, and put it in the end of this threads first post. As I said, I don't want to give you money, I want you and TheProcrastinator to eat a burger on my account.

 

[cacota]

I have just played both of your campaigns, and despite I really liked rise of the blood elves I must say... I LOVED CURSE OF THE FORSAKEN. Really 1000x times epic than the elves one .

Really liked

Spoiler

the choose hero for the ending chapter and also that if u didnt kill anubarak or sindragosa he would appear later.(maybe there are more of those but i didnt find)

Loved the new lich king.(Although the battle vs the lich king was a bit easy,with the inmunity spell guys everything is easy xD)

I suppose that everyone asked you, but when do you plan to release next campaign ??

 

[itz]

Chapter 7, bug?

Hmm, chapter 7: There is an expansion just north of the first base, but there doesn't seem to be quite enough room to lay down a base (either blocked by gold mine or the water). Is this intentional, or a bug?

Also, for some reason when I defend my base with Malefaction, the enemy likes to flee to the northwest and just sit there, like in the image below. When this happens, the waves stop coming which trivializes the level.

Edit: Actually, upon further playing it seems this isnt just caused by Malefaction. It also happened when the lich & company killed a ghost I had sitting out there as a scout. (I think it has something to do with the one-way waygate)

 

[tomoraider]

Thanks, Cacota, and I don't know when I'll release it.

Itz, I thought I already fixed the gold mine bug. Oh well. And yeah, the AI bug is probably caused by the waygate. I'll see how I'll fix that.

 

[Relendril]

forsaken catapult van wow model

 

[Atshiel]

But it continues bug :'P

 

[kahtwoloo]

i found a glitch. mission 7 (the first northrend one), theres a mine that you cant expand too because there's no space.

edit
looks like someone else found it.

 

[Deleted member 238589]

I think Tomo fixed that one.