Cruiser Command v0.93g

[TKF]

AlexIm, some of the things u say is already implemented, it just happens randomly in heavily damaged cruisers and colors on the ship status just hows the where the fires is on the ship. The purpose for those events is to shorten the game and doesn't apply if the cruiser is barely damaged, only if it's over half dead. Those events are internal explosions, loss of air compression in 1 department, temporary power loss, extra core damage, Life support system failure etc...

If you always were on the winning side, you never notice anything of this and enemy doesn't always tell you what they are experiencing? Are they?



I'm already working on 0.81 since the core seems way to easy to overload in current version, I'm going to make it much more stable so it can hold up much longer, but also decrease recovery rate/drop rate. Also going to fix the few bugs in 0.80.

<Add pilot multiboard status?>
<Add something new for vessels>
Buff the new consoles added in 0.80
Cruiser laser upgrade adjustments
Greatly nerf the overboosted Yamato Cannon
Change cruiser name with "-team <name>" command
Double the core reactor hitpoints, preventing to fast decrease
Fixed a selection bug with the new consoles
Fix FATAL bug

 

[Alexlm]

my bad dint know, im not allways on the wining side, altrue i win the majority of games, it ends very fast after the shield is down so i dont realy get time to rapair much if at all, well if i am the eng i usualy dont get much resurses so not much spaming repair hull, if im the capitan i usualy dont get a good help from engeniring, i dont do much miner duty, anyway idk version 80, but before that you only got time to repair if they run out if rokets, missel relaoding bug that does happen evry single f***ing time i remember playng, or some1 runs and gets away, most of the time it is relaoding bug, then u may have time to repair but if u dont have resurses still ....., the half damage system isnt realy good for that 50% hull is easy to destroy fast, if we can reinfoce hull, and a radar system to worn if they can in a range of your ship, most games the first to attack is the winer, its knda a race for completing battle prep

 

[TKF]

In 0.80 no matter how many times you click the repair, you can no longer instantly fix your cruiser to full. It takes 50 seconds to repair 5% hull. The repair does only repair 1% instantly, the the rest over time. It's not meant to outrepair the damage the enemy is firing at you in short battles. I found the instant repairs unrealistic, so I like this solution, even it's very impractical in deadly situations.

.... and a radar system to worn if they can in a range of your ship, most games the first to attack is the winer, its knda a race for completing battle prep

Well if you deploy a sensor node, it will constantly ping the position of the enemy cruiser, also in addition it will alert enemy missile launch so you get a few more seconds to react, unless they are very close to you.

Sensor node is a great tool to use when you attack, it is much better than radar ping and allows you with greater skill to use missiles at long range instead of clumpy close combat. If you use missile camera you can see where you shoot. It's a greater chance to miss from distance, but there is few players which can fight a long ranged battle. Merculite, Piranha Predator and Hellfire missiles has a nice range. Some players tend to retaliate the same direction as the missiles came from, but with the missile camera on you can quickly steer away the incoming missiles, while the enemy cruiser maybe haven't started their engines fully yet and you gain a great advantage.

Doesn't hurt if your miners ping sometimes and tell you when your enemy makes a move from their position. I find that traveling at max speed is always the best defense, they must intercept or crash into the cruiser to slow it down.


There is several tactics and ways to prepare, some do rush others do prepare some and many players makes very good preparations with repair kits and dozens of missiles ready for loading.





0.81

Vessels
Next version will feature a lot of minor edits and balancing. I was not done testing and removing the bugs yet, as I'm not used to make multiboards this is a new experience. At least I'm going to add a speedometer to fighters/miners so they know how fast they travel, but they will not be able to see the battlecruiser status, but their own instead.

Missile loading
I also tried to test a missile loading backup, but it also bugs sometimes, when it fails to load 2 times in a row, but i made the trigger run twice instead of once. It supports dual loading at the same time.

Buffing Consoles
I'll add 1 or 2 new abilities to each console. Replicator Console is so good that it doesn't need more abilties.

 

[Alexlm]

hm..ive been thinking that a fails AI for this map isnt imposible but you might need to make a secoundery map, so eh, you allredy got AI robots do missel reloading and resurses procesing, i do not think its hard to get them to mine, set a few power setings, cruiser drive shud not be that hard also, the real problem i think its gething them to work with players, so if 1 cruser is players and 1 is AI its posible, or make it fake, for example you make them mine but the resurses they get arent releted to wat they send, a trigger base idk how to say it, it doesnt have to have a interior for the AI ship, or put it a mine beem on the cruiser so you dont have to make them use mining and fighter ship, etc, anyway coz playn this game is hard with noobs i only got 1-2 pro games, and ** nooby games, at first i dint have problems explayning to begginers exept they dint know english at all, manytimes i just wish to play this game alone, anyway i want to ask you do you consider making onother map using this 1 as base? and if u consider making the sc2 version yourself?

 

[vAnKaTa_G.G.]

Reviewing TKF's progress on the map

Review by vAnKaTa_G.G.

Pros:

[+] Map is still very enjoyable to play.
[+] The Core HP is an awesome addition
[+] New model works incredibly for the map.
[+] The new missiles/upgrades/etc. are very creative and add more fun to the game.
[+] The game is getting better and better

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Neutral:

NONE

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Cons:

[-] Kind of buggy sometimes (I'll post which bugs appeared in the newest version(0.80) in the "Bugs" section below)

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Bugs Found:

[BUG] Sometimes while driving the mining vessel the camera changed back to the Battle Cruiser and we had to -eject from the vessel.
[BUG] The drone which is supposed to refine the ores bugged. It started doing strange things like taking one ore - refining it - taking the refined material - taking another ore - refining the ore and the already refined material and dropping it in the middle of the Battle Cruiser. It also dropped raw materials where it should drop refined ones.

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Suggestions:

NONE
I decided to not post any suggestions because I like the map in its current state plus I see a few people are posting very creative ideas

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Overall Rating for the map:
5/5

Comments from me:
I really enjoyed playing the map. The only thing I didn't like in it were the bugs and I really hope they are fixable (at least in the SC2 version - looking forward for it too )

Regards vAnKaTa_G.G.

 

[TKF]

Thanks for the nice review.


Did you try to type -cam instead of -eject? It should reset the camera back to the mining vessel, if not let me know cuz I put a camera fix there.


Edit_

Ops I did fix it in the upcoming 0.81 version. Still a problem in 0.80. The refinery AI will have to wait as long it works atm. Also new consoles has to wait atm.


0.81 will be released soon with lots of changes. Also the core will no longer be so easy to overload as it's in 0.80.

Spoiler for 0.81

 

[AndreiMolnar]

whoa! at last a vessel status! lol, are there bots in this game? i have a bad internet and sometimes shuts down, so i cant finish long online games, like yours, so i wanna play offline.

 

[maplover]

Ahhh!! this map is just gr8!! it can even become much better!!

1) May you add a new battleship for the enemy?(two of same model spoil the fun)
2) You should add Aoe missiles that do damage to many sectors and while launching them we get the aimer.
3) When damaged -

1) Make the reactors go unstable 2) Make some sectors blocked (not reachable) 3) Speed limit - should randomly slow down - max limit of speed should decrease 4) Smoke in burning sectors 5) A alarm - the inside of the ship should turn red.
6) Functions should go missing from control panels or control panels should be damaged. 7) Make mini ships unboardable or ships not allowed to dock if that sector is damaged.

4) Make repairs take time - like a particular sector takes x amount of time to repair. (instant repair sucks)

5) Ai would be gr8

 

[Deolrin]

Pretty much everything you said about the 'damaged' part is already there.

He already made hull repairs take time.

There will be no point in adding a new battleship for the enemy? :/ Both are supposed to be Battlecruisers from Starcraft 2.

 

[Alexlm]

great, now if it can be played single player, had some reinforce hull, coz all its abaut how strong the shield is it woth be great, it allredy is but eh, maybe a hacking boarding the ememy system is all thats left

found 2 bugs when i tested the game with the panel for resurses, 1 it says the same energy left when u make veldite, but you use power, 2 i let the bridge when the cruisers were raming, and made some resurses, the core stability was jumping like crazy, i exploded xD....hull -300% XD

 

[lurebr]

I loved the map, it gave lot of fun 5/5

 

[Alexlm]

yup best map there is right now! and it will get bether, its not at its full potential....yet, there is still separeted damage to systems to be implemented (its knda lame to lounch rokets while its debree in the slot xD), making rapairs more complicated, some will say the map has to be simple for players, eh.... if few pl that woth get it like this and wont if the systems get complicated, most of dota players dont anderstand how to mine xD, no offace,some more uses for the power of weapons, maybe a future release cargo hold, that well dumps the resurses in space, if your fallowed at clouse range, there is still a place for a new engeniring panel, realy like it now the eng is allpowerfull , the capitan job is totaly fun, but still the pilot is sucky, maybe if its possible to change the ship, with a new 1 bether 1, a support cruiser, something bigger, maybe with intirior, use the last cruiser skin, make the intirior symilar just smaller, maybe give the posibility of mining ,refining, energy management, base building ability, somewat like the cruisers were whencallex was in charge, only weeker, 2 missels slot, i know the trigger problem, well just an idea, back to the panals, there is place for slots in: the end of wings coz i consider them empty , 1 on bridge left of the command 1, something on the neck, i know you allredy are planing to make new panels, im happy , and i think half the guys ho played it have realized that, 1 think i realy find strange well maybe not but ill mancion it coz i dont think many did, the energy generator works on.....nothing
giving type to panels "energy", its a easy give away

by the way: my suggestions for the new ones: a way to travel very fast, cloak, mining beam, a black hole maker, automatic repair,
and a bilologycal roket, that infects and kills the oponents from within

 

[masterofra]

Wow, This map has been improved immensely, since I last played it. From the mineral Fabrication console you can build, to the sensor/miner nodes, And the ability to pickup/drop off stuff instantly, letting you make a long queue.


IS there anywhere where people who know how to play gather, so good games can be hosted? A forums or something?

 

[Alexlm]

sadly, not realy, i cant play on the official servers unless someone hosts from eurobattle.net
I remembered that there is a cc website, but knda dead and there is a cruiser command clan, i dont know its state
Ive been thinking abaut that subcruiser idea: make a sub level of the cruiser, a main hangar, where you can build a little cruiser, but expensive, compicated, it will need a very good enge and a lot of resurses, and time , making it good for playng with many pl so they dont get so bored waiting to.... , so motivaiting the pilots to mine, you will need to make evry sistem separetly, hull, shield, engines, weapons, refiner, mining beam, replicator, etc, it will be leaded by pilots autority, maybe make a few classes, it doesnt need evry system to go but, going without a shield...Bum, or energy, you can fuel up the energy tanks at the cruiser but after that if u dont make power generator..."wth happen to the lights?", or engines....siting duck.
by the way problebly you allredy realized this, but realy the laser turrents arent worth much....

 

[TKF]

Well I'll take a break atm as I worked last week every day to fix up for 0.81 cleaning tons small bugs while I carefully looked through the triggers.


Buildable Console
About the consoles it's very time consuming to make new systems. So far I've only made energy class, I'm going to make at least 2 more classes so you can pick those too, but only 1 of each class.

Energy Consoles (3 of 4, having an idea about the 4th one, which is going to be made)
Bridge Consoles (0 of 3?, only have a plausible idea, which will maybe be made, it depends if I'm able to make that complex trigger system)
Hangar Consoles (0 of 2?, have a panel idea for the pilots only, a offensive panel in hangar which is going to be made most likely)
Wing Consoles (0 of 2?)





I'll await further updates until I get feedback about the latest changes. Such as level 5 cruiser laser upgrade will give you twice as fast fire rate for the cruiser lasers making it look more awesome but also twice as lethal. Also feedback about the current consoles and their usefulness and if some need to be nerfed/buffed depends on feedback.


I will probably improve the vessel multiboard as it give very little information atm and may add some more info that just shield, hull and speed.


About the refinery bots it's not a major problem since they actually work now after much patchworking for several versions. After doing testing they also clean their mistakes after a while, although it looks stupid.

 

[masterofra]

I have a few bugs that occur, some of which I suppose are cheating.

When In Debug mode, Or rather, When starting the game with the name Callex, and after getting the password correct, It used to let me use the -minerals command to add 100 minerals to both ships. This no longer seems to work. I had been using it to check out the new features, but it suddenly stopped working. Can you tell me why this is?

Sometimes, when I load items into the fighter, like the shield generator thingy, or laser batteries, the abilities do not show up. It doesn't happen every time, And I dont know how to trigger it yet, Ill give more info when that happens again

A few superficial change, that would make the game make a bit more sense, would be..
-Replace shield% with ss (shield stability), sf(shield fortitude), or something else other than %. % usually means "out of 100", and since you can go higher than that, well, it would make more sense.
-Double the amount of minerals gained by mining (and that can be stacked), and half the amount that come out of the refinery. This way, you start out with losing half of the minerals due to "inefficiency" or "impurities" in the refinery. The upgrade would reduce it, so you would have perfect efficiency, or refining.
-For the impact debug command, which spawns a missile heading towards the cruiser, if the user is in a vessel, make it go towards the vessel instead. I would like to experiment like that.

One of the annoying glitches the game has, in the tutorial, when someone hits esc, it hides the text for everyone. That is caused by using a certain function.

• Cinematic - Send transmission to (Player group((Picked player))) from Crew Member 0146 <gen> named |cff0852A5Tutorial: Play No sound and display |cff5A9CEFThis is t.... Modify duration: Add 6.00 seconds and Don't wait

as an example of usage. This function, which corresponds to this jass function,

function TransmissionFromUnitTypeWithName2BJ takes force toForce, player fromPlayer, integer unitId, string unitName, location loc, sound soundHandle, string message, integer timeType, real timeVal, boolean wait returns nothing
    call TryInitCinematicBehaviorBJ()

    // Ensure that the time value is non-negative.
    set timeVal = RMaxBJ(timeVal, 0)

    set bj_lastTransmissionDuration = GetTransmissionDuration(soundHandle, timeType, timeVal)
    set bj_lastPlayedSound = soundHandle

    if (IsPlayerInForce(GetLocalPlayer(), toForce)) then
        // Use only local code (no net traffic) within this block to avoid desyncs.

        call DoTransmissionBasicsXYBJ(unitId, GetPlayerColor(fromPlayer), GetLocationX(loc), GetLocationY(loc), soundHandle, unitName, message, bj_lastTransmissionDuration)
    endif

    if wait and (bj_lastTransmissionDuration > 0) then
        // call TriggerSleepAction(bj_lastTransmissionDuration)
        call WaitTransmissionDuration(soundHandle, timeType, timeVal)
    endif

endfunction

has an function call in it

function TryInitCinematicBehaviorBJ takes nothing returns nothing
    local integer index

    if (bj_cineSceneBeingSkipped == null) then
        set bj_cineSceneBeingSkipped = CreateTrigger()
        set index = 0
        loop
            call TriggerRegisterPlayerEvent(bj_cineSceneBeingSkipped, Player(index), EVENT_PLAYER_END_CINEMATIC)
            set index = index + 1
            exitwhen index == bj_MAX_PLAYERS
        endloop
        call TriggerAddAction(bj_cineSceneBeingSkipped, function CancelCineSceneBJ)
    endif
endfunction

that makes a trigger, that when someone hits the esc key, it removes the text in that box from the screen.
The solution is simple, add this action to the init trigger of the map

• Custom script: set bj_cineSceneBeingSkipped = CreateTrigger()

If you look carefully in the function, you may notice that it checks to see if the trigger is null first before creating it. We can abuse that by creating it, but not doing anything with it. This will cause it to see it as already created, and not create the trigger that causes the cinematic text to vanish.

 

[TKF]

I have a few bugs that occur, some of which I suppose are cheating.

When In Debug mode, Or rather, When starting the game with the name Callex, and after getting the password correct, It used to let me use the -minerals command to add 100 minerals to both ships. This no longer seems to work. I had been using it to check out the new features, but it suddenly stopped working. Can you tell me why this is?

Sometimes, when I load items into the fighter, like the shield generator thingy, or laser batteries, the abilities do not show up. It doesn't happen every time, And I dont know how to trigger it yet, Ill give more info when that happens again

Minerals command was disabled in 0.81 (not mentioned in changelog cuz cheaters play older versions to get very unfair advantage) due to someone using it as cheat ingame as they can change the name despite there is a trigger preventing someone from calling themself callex they obviously can avoid that due to an weakness of condition detection which can be abused. I set a timer if you're interested in testing it in singleplayer and the command must be entered before the intro part of the game starts within 6 seconds and also unlocking + entering the command fast as possible. If you have a startup lagg you miss the opening.

Also the mineral cheat command do now provide same amount for both teams so noone should gain advantage if somehow used as cheat in multiplayer on bnet/online.


The other debug commands is only used to test new additions to the map during updates and it's not for everyone to use or test.


I'm aware of the problem with the abilties not always coming up, it also happens with the main console when captain is steering the cruiser due to bad trigger flow you have to redock and enter space again.

A few superficial change, that would make the game make a bit more sense, would be..
-Replace shield% with ss (shield stability), sf(shield fortitude), or something else other than %. % usually means "out of 100", and since you can go higher than that, well, it would make more sense.
-Double the amount of minerals gained by mining (and that can be stacked), and half the amount that come out of the refinery. This way, you start out with losing half of the minerals due to "inefficiency" or "impurities" in the refinery. The upgrade would reduce it, so you would have perfect efficiency, or refining.
-For the impact debug command, which spawns a missile heading towards the cruiser, if the user is in a vessel, make it go towards the vessel instead. I would like to experiment like that.

Well I'll consider the shield suggestion of yours and implement shield points instead as % makes no sense when you use over 100gw power on shields. I'm going to add % in addition to the shield points, so you can see that % can be 100% according to the current sp limit. This can be over 100% if your shields exceeds the current power limit.

I'll leave the way refining is. Halving the initial efficiency will extend the already long gameplay and I've no plans to make it longer by implementing this.

One of the annoying glitches the game has, in the tutorial, when someone hits esc, it hides the text for everyone. That is caused by using a certain function..

I'll look into that, altought I never experienced a problem with it since it's rare someone hits esc when tutorial process is started. and usually only in the start.

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I've a much bigger problem. Sync problem. Server splits which according to my bot happens 2 times on average every game it starts. I found the source of the problem is it's unfortunately caused the looping player locals functions controlled every second and only being runned when it's needed and running such instance so often along with other local functions which is heavier is a huge server split problem.

Also it got worse since I added much more local functions to existing triggers it kinda ruined the map and server splits happens in almost every game. I wasn't aware of this until now. In trigger laggs it increase the desync lagg and with some functions only running for some players and not others makes it much worse. Quite critical when someone is going piloting a vessel the problem starts. The game is especially vulnerable for desyncs, even if a lagscreen should occur when the happens, but when the difference suddenly get huge in a ingame trigger lagg immediate server split happens, mainly causing 1 player to be pushed out of the game instantly.

 

[M0RT]

Desyncs could also be caused by this piece of code:

if udg_localplayer==GetLocalPlayer()then
call MultiboardDisplay(udg_ShipStatus[0],false)
call MultiboardDisplay(udg_CargoMultiboard[0],true)
call PauseUnit(GetSellingUnit(),true)
endif

Apparently it's in Wing_Cargo_Consoles trigger, altough I am not sure about that. Thanks to the protection, there are about 30 000 lines of very messy code

 

[TKF]

Desyncs could also be caused by this piece of code:

if udg_localplayer==GetLocalPlayer()then
call MultiboardDisplay(udg_ShipStatus[0],false)
call MultiboardDisplay(udg_CargoMultiboard[0],true)
call PauseUnit(GetSellingUnit(),true)
endif

Apparently it's in Wing_Cargo_Consoles trigger, altough I am not sure about that. Thanks to the protection, there are about 30 000 lines of very messy code

Every console contains such a similar code in one way or another for they need to look in a different multiboard, as it uses a local multiboard for that player. It's created in GUI and then the code get veximized for protection. It's also used for mineral scanner


Survey scanner alters the units color stats ONLY for that player (creating 1 more dimension of units, also causing desynced different data), which makes the asteroids change color and it's impossible to test this alone as you have no other players to create artificial lagg on and this is not used in any other maps as I know of.

This color trigger tended to hang up when you docked, but I fixed that problem in 0.81, but it didn't seem to fix the great desync problem.



But when this mineral scanner feature came the map didn't suffer from desyncs afaik, so the problem does maybe lie elsewhere after I did a bit to much locals. Local game messages causes quite minor change and only stores on the players computer as text memory leak.

 

[Alexlm]

so my idea made it worst, , well you have your hands full, still if i post i might as well put onother stupid idea... special items, things that are great but hard to get, in a 5 on 5, at least 2 pl are pretty much left out, for that you can manage perfecly with only 4 or 3, for example, you want to make a super mine, but you need the reaserch panal and a fragment of a ....nebula? Also no chance of introducing space stations? neutral from start or player made with 1 as an limit? first the base, then moduels (made like drones to go there and making new shuff for it), and a shooting system like toy soligers if u implement bording,

and a good idea (maybe xD), teem mode, when the 2 cruisers are a team, they fight creeps, or alone 1 crusier vs an army

 

[M0RT]

Yeah I noticed that this code repeats a lot, but it's always just color change or multiboard display. Here, it's PauseUnit(), which I am pretty sure can't be called locally.

 

[TKF]

Yeah I noticed that this code repeats a lot, but it's always just color change or multiboard display. Here, it's PauseUnit(), which I am pretty sure can't be called locally.

Hmm, that's not supposed to be there, I made a glitch there and when someone use that console, it could be possible be put in his own game instantly cuz that function will be run and causes 2 worlds instantly since it alters a unit data every player must have synced game stats for. As with unit colors it's different since it only impacts visuals, but putting a unit stats change for only 1 player will lead to desync inside that function.

If you test this alone you will ofc not notice anything cuz there's nobody to desync ^^

This will be fixed as this function is being executed and I will put it outside the local as a measure to fix it. However there is more bugs that cause desyncs. You can test the wing consoles in a game it and see if you get desynced (Only applies for Delta cruiser). If you does not notice game splits then the function is probably not being runned due to it's not meant to be called locally and shouldn't be possible.


I cannot test this bug alone

 

[masterofra]

I'll leave the way refining is. Halving the initial efficiency will extend the already long gameplay and I've no plans to make it longer by implementing this.

You may have misunderstood me. It would be like this

In the current game, you can have up to 50 minerals per slot, and asteroids supply 50-150 minerals each. from what I have seen. When you refine them, you get the same amount out as went in, or as much as 200% as much with maxed refinery. This seems odd, simply because you magically create more minerals when you refine it after efficiency upgrading. It would make more sense if you lose less after upgrading, which would be an efficiency boost.

You would have up to 100 raw minerals per slot, and asteroids would have 100 - 300 minerals each. When you refined, you would initially get half of what you put in, so 50 per 100 stack. The upgrades would each increase the amount that comes out, so at max level, the full amount comes out, thus perfect efficiency.

Also, About the ability bug, where the abilitys dont show up, add an innate ability to the control console, or whatever is selected, and make it strip the extra abilities off of the console, and retry adding them back on.

 

[Alexlm]

...from wat i uderstand it still does slow down mining greatly...
it makes you mine longer
xD nvm, its the same i find it not importent to make the changes, he will have to change the price of evrything so.... and realy its not a big deal

by the way, i like Space Engineers idea, but it needs much work on it

 

[masterofra]

Read it more carefully please, It would have 0 effect on the gameplay itself, but would make the mineral collection and refining make more sense.
The two changes would cancel each other out.
for every second, say you can mine 10 minerals, increase that to 20 per second, but the same amount of damage to the asteroids. (it may be more or less, it doesnt matter)
For every 2 minerals that come out of the refinery, remove half, this would cancel it out, since 200% * 50% = 100%

 

[Say_No_To_War]

debuggings!

Nice new versions but instead of adding new features debugging is more important:
- The cargo console leads to a DESYNC when used. Please fix it or remove that console! This should be rated more then critical, nearly every game someone drops if you dont warn all players!
- There are some framerate issues. Sometimes something seems to run amok! Fps jumping from 5 to 150. Maybe a trigger...
- refinery drones sometimes do weird things (dropping unrefined ore in molecular, dropping and pickung up ore, getting stuck)

btw all I asked would love you if you would replace the drones with r2d2...

Edit: One more bug: The hotkey for the cannon of the fighter seems to be the standard-hotkey of an ability...... this always leads to problems. Set it to a custom key. Otherwise people with warcrafts with other languages can *not* use that hotkeys. In general its good to use custom hotkeys for ablitys. And you should even set the normal hotkeys to custom values by using a custom "CommandStrings.txt". Otherwise it will always be bugged in some languages. Remember: Warcraft 3 was released in many laguages, not only english...

 

[Alexlm]

dude thos bugs are well known, refinery drons dont work since they were made, in the cc days under callex's development (2009), since then they were made massiv improvments, all consoles lead to desynk from wat i understand from a few posts earlyer to yours, and the framerat i dont know wat u try to say, lags? well aperantly the lasers make some lag, and it is a complex game maybe bether internet is needed, wat are r2d2?
and still i dont feel that is nececery to make the refinery change, i like it the way it is, losing half of wat you get at start coz of "impurities" is too much lol , it does not make sense that a crusier commes accros onother of the same type and at start they dont have a thing and they build all on the run, and it so happens that is in a very good mining field of asteroids, so its the same for me

by the way is there a chance i can get a unprotected version to look it up?

 

[TKF]

The desync bug will be dealth with when I get 0.82 complete, but it takes time to build new systems and test them properly to make them work.

I'm not home this weekend, so the work on 0.82 will be delayed about 1 week.



If you find any more bugs feel free to post them.

 

[Zydo]

well so far i don't know if it's a bug but when the game start and you pilot the cruiser you can see the whole map, with the locations of every asteroid cloud, this gives a HUGE advantage.

 

[Say_No_To_War]

well so far i don't know if it's a bug but when the game start and you pilot the cruiser you can see the whole map, with the locations of every asteroid cloud, this gives a HUGE advantage.

yes i saw that too. if you know it and are fast enough u know where to tell your pilots to go... cinematic movie mode sux anyway imo

 

[TKF]

Things will take forever to add when I fail in experimenting with new systems and when I don't get it to work it's very frustrating, I think I will release a bug fix version while making new systems might take forever and I'm not sure if I can add a new weapon system into the game since I get problem while developing it and I get very bored of mapping when I don't get things to work, so lucklily I made the bugfixes first so making new complex features has to wait until I make it work.


I'll be releasing a 0.81b as a bugfix version

Mines do now move faster
Doubled the amount of minerals, halved the refinery rate
Nerfed Anti Matter console as it was way better than the other consoles
Slight buff to robots
Several balances
Several bugfixes
Fixed a desync bug with wing console

0.81b is released. Let me know if you find more bugs.

 

[masterofra]

The "Energy Remaining Message" for the first cruiser when replicating mass seems to have the wrong value, maybe the energy amount of the second cruiser.

 

[illmaster]

that great map
i wonder if you can give me the map

 

[Narogog]

I have a suggestions

I definitely think that adding boarding would be a good Idea, you could also add in cloning or something like that so that you can "revive" your Fellow crewmen if they die, You would need a med bay so a second level would be a great idea. and could you make computer controlled marines? so that the boarding parties can have a few men in them? if you add boarding parties in then automatic defense turrets would be a useful addition. By the Way I love Your map It is epic!

If you add in boarding suits would be awesome, especially a jet pack suit that can leave the ship through a certain area and then fly over to the Enemies ship it would have limited "air" and not be able to go far but could be awesome for sabotaging the enemy ship.

 

[Talesdro]

Realy great map.I would love to help out with ideas and maybe some sytems.Whats missing on the map now is simple :

More Vessels
Space Danger
More Fights(maybe for this a third ship ? )

 

[TKF]

The "Energy Remaining Message" for the first cruiser when replicating mass seems to have the wrong value, maybe the energy amount of the second cruiser.

I will fix this minor bug in next version.

I definitely think that adding boarding would be a good Idea, you could also add in cloning or something like that so that you can "revive" your Fellow crewmen if they die, You would need a med bay so a second level would be a great idea. and could you make computer controlled marines? so that the boarding parties can have a few men in them? if you add boarding parties in then automatic defense turrets would be a useful addition. By the Way I love Your map It is epic!

If you add in boarding suits would be awesome, especially a jet pack suit that can leave the ship through a certain area and then fly over to the Enemies ship it would have limited "air" and not be able to go far but could be awesome for sabotaging the enemy ship.

I never planned on making boarding system into the map, and the map isnt' designed for it, so if I'm going to add a boarding feature I have to edit all consoles as it isn't meant to be manned by other team.

If this map was also meant for boarding, the systems would be been made differently, I'm don't want to edit almost all systems which isn't designed for other players to be on enemy cruiser and panels using a buy unit function which can be used by any unit near to it, and if an enemy crew member would board enemy ships I've to add more conditions.

I'm not going to add boarding.

Realy great map.I would love to help out with ideas and maybe some sytems.Whats missing on the map now is simple :

More Vessels
Space Danger
More Fights(maybe for this a third ship ? )

No plans for adding it atm.



As for delayed updates, I have to say only this:
Just one more turn. one more turn.....

 

[Alexlm]

i have played a game receantly version 79, apperantly using the wing consols on both cruisers, will drop the player on the first cruiser, i think we both used the one in the right

and any hopes for game mods? team mode? 1 vs an army?

 

[TKF]

i have played a game receantly version 79, apperantly using the wing consols on both cruisers, will drop the player on the first cruiser, i think we both used the one in the right

It shouldn't be affected by wing consoles in 0.81b as it should be fixed there.

 

[Alexlm]

i dont understand wata sayn', i cant test it but, apperently if the consols on both cruisers are used at the same time the player in the frist cruiser will get desynk, iven in 81b
are there any games like cruiser command? i allredy know of space roques and battle cruisers
and the roket bug gets bad when the cruisers are coliding, from wat i can tell, so i suggest implimenting things so its very dengerouse to ram, maybe a shield vs shield with overload and explozions, serios hull damage

 

[TKF]

i dont understand wata sayn', i cant test it but, apperently if the consols on both cruisers are used at the same time the player in the frist cruiser will get desynk, iven in 81b
are there any games like cruiser command? i allredy know of space roques and battle cruisers
and the roket bug gets bad when the cruisers are coliding, from wat i can tell, so i suggest implimenting things so its very dengerouse to ram, maybe a shield vs shield with overload and explozions, serios hull damage

The desync bug by using the consoles in 0.81b should not occur as I removed the harmful code causing the game to desync, if that happens everytime then it's something seriously wrong.

Adding a deadly collision damage is out of question, even though this trigger causing trigger overflow during collisions. If I would increase crashing damage the attacking cruiser will always win as the defender has taken damage and the rammer would take benefit of this.

 

[Alexlm]

your right but if u do it like this: raming will couse debrees, so if u ram head on the capitan may die,,, that woth be real bad, if u ram using a wing, the rokets may explode, its knda easy to just ram fire 6 rokets fallowed with 2-3 yamatos and a overcharge engines, i do not have with ho to test it but im pretty confident that its seariously wrong, and i know how to abuse it if its true (i think some1 used it on me)
ps: the ramer in most cases wins
btw can u make so that asteroids slow down the cruiser if it hits? shield and hull
and a little improvement to the internal damage system, i repaired the ship i coudent find any debree left but the area was still yellow
when is next update? looking fourd to it

and the much waited for! next shit load of ideas:
1 biological roket, poison, if it hits hull it well.... starts killing the crow
2 make it harder to make rokets, 3 conponents: engine, explosivs and homing, maybe buildeble from the wing consols or add a special buildeble consol in engeniring for making warheads, for super rokets, (it might be a little OP, but lets face it terraflooping shields is wicked sick, love it! aspesialy with lvl 3 shielding, corbonit deflector + 350 energy, maybe for that replicator stuff that makes resurses, its a little week, i know its made for fast endings, but still)
3 a roket or guidence system that gets by the shield (if u make the 3 parts)
4 i do not think its that hard to make a decent boarding system, i get 1 of the reasons why you dont want thais implemented, that you did not specefy, still u dont have to make it a game changer, just a steal some resurses, rokets to get an upperhand, that arent in slots or allredy put in the cargo hold, maybe plant some bombs, it woth be lame, true...
5 still think adding some other space thingys, then asteroids and the 2 cruisers, its a good idea
6 still think adding a repair bot is a good idea, but not depending on repair matrixes, and a marine drone(if u will implement boearding), long shoot, as you allredy say u dont want to
7 wat if u can only board space stations? no boarding the enemy cruiser, so any graund battle will be over the stations, not a game winer,
8 make that max speed and turning upgrade cost more and make some more hull hp
9 make a standard crow ability to make minor intirior repairs so they dont get stranded from panels
10 did u consider my buildeble stations idea? with making moduels and all? did u read it xD?
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idea 100 did u read some of them ?lol, well i was bored nothing to do....

can some1 tell me where to play it? garena?wich server?when?

 

[AndreiMolnar]

got a problem, when i must select a game it dosen't appears, what i must do?

 

[TKF]

got a problem, when i must select a game it dosen't appears, what i must do?

This problem might occur when it's in a folder or several folders and the name of the map is to long. Try to rename it to cc081b or so.

 

[Alexlm]

or move it to a shorter path, like maps,dl
anyway how is it going with 82?

 

[TKF]

anyway how is it going with 82?

Well I haven't worked on it since I release 0.81b, the plan was to implement 2 consoles, but I'm stuck on making the drone system and it's not done in 1 week. It's very boring to test and fail 20 times I lose motivation when I don't know what's wrong..... I'm not going to update until I figure this out.

 

[kiloneie]

This map is so crazy AWESOME i can't stop playing it , btw first time i played it was on NEW YEAR alone xD.
Calex don't abandon it PLEASE . and i abit hate 20-30 min waiting for getting ready for attack -.-.

 

[Alexlm]

...lol....callex no longer works on this, hasnt for a long time, tkf here works on it, isuggest forgeting abaut the drones arent realy helpfull, well at least im not using them, not just that theyr buggy, they cost much and arent fast, on top of that they use energy , maybe now with the extended slots and speed
you dont have to wait you can go play with the enemy miners, its lots of fun ^^
btw miners need to know wat condition the cruiser is in 2
hm.... is there any chance youll add something very very rare, like merc just way more rare like 4 asteroids of 50 each, to get something realy OP?

 

[kiloneie]

Does anyone have or knows where to find old or new Cruiser Command cruiser model ? im making a similar or other words told clone of Cruiser Command from scratch in a programing language but can't use 2D in it will look pathetic and using few models in such no real resource of graphics using map can't lag even in slowest programing language xD.

So does anyone have the model ?

 

[kiloneie]

Are there any bots hosting this awesome map ? i really wana know because i wana play it...

 

[AndreiMolnar]

thaks! it works perfectly good game! love it.
EDIT: lol... the small spaceships dosent collide with asteroids?