[Solved] Cooldown

[TwoVenomous]

Hello, Everyone...
Can I force an ability to go on cooldown without casting them ?

 

[defskull]

No, we tried it.

 

[TwoVenomous]

No, we tried it.

you sounded like a doctor who tells the family of the patient that the patient died...

but, thank you and i can't rape you..

 

[rulerofiron99]

You could make the ability a dummy ability that has triggered effects, and then set the caster's cast point to 0.000 and have it force-casted, while disabling its associated trigger.

 

[defskull]

You could make the ability a dummy ability that has triggered effects, and then set the caster's cast point to 0.000 and have it force-casted, while disabling its associated trigger.

When you edited the unit's properties in Object Editor, it stays permanent and I'm sure he don't want every spell to be casted with 0.00 second of delay.

 

[TwoVenomous]

You could make the ability a dummy ability that has triggered effects, and then set the caster's cast point to 0.000 and have it force-casted, while disabling its associated trigger.

I also thought of something like that..
but the problem is the base ability I'm using is Channel..
and it's a Target Point while Channel can only be used within this action

• Unit - Order (Triggering unit) to Special - Channel

when I did that, the hero freezes till the end of the game

 

[best_player_88]

Hello, Everyone...
Can I force an ability to go on cooldown without casting them ?

Not really, but you could make it like this:
1) make dummy ability that do nearly nothing, but don't use Channel (it can't be manipulated with triggers)!!!!
2) This can be apply to abilities with no target such as windwalk and roar, but with bugs it will work with targeted abilities.
3) Make the Trigger do the effect instead the spell: roar do 0.01 second of roar, and dummy unit do the roar also. Windwalk that last 0.01 second and invisability cast on the caster (shockwave that cast 1 metter infront of the hero). etc.
4) when you want the spell to go cooldown set BOOLING(true default) =FALSE and Action: order unit with no target (roar? windwalk?) or with target with shockwave that cast 1 metter from it.
5) after 1 second, make the BOOLING = true.

*3) Condition: Boolean = true or not create the dummy.
** Caster Hero should have 0.00 seconds cast point and cast backswing, and each and any spell you want to have the cast delay, just give the specific ability casting time.
*** It works only for a hero which is alive, a dead hero will not go into cooldown
**** As mentioned, won't work so well on shockwave since the player could press Hold Position, though with 0.00 seconds casting time, it might work (test it)

^ APPROVED WAY TO FORCE COOLDOWN

 

[best_player_88]

I also thought of something like that..
but the problem is the base ability I'm using is Channel..
and it's a Target Point while Channel can only be used within this action

• Unit - Order (Triggering unit) to Special - Channel

when I did that, the hero freezes till the end of the game

You used channel wrong, a channel without 0.00 "follow through time" will freeze for 180 seconds. Also, Disable Other Abilities? = True -> need to be FALSE.
Ok I didn't know you can use channel inside a trigger, so ... OK GO CHANNEL IS ALSO APPROVED (thought I'm not sure that channel can be used inside a trigger in tareting form)
^ FIXED

 

[TwoVenomous]

You used channel wrong, a channel without 0.00 "follow through time" will freeze for 180 seconds. Also, Disable Other Abilities? = True -> need to be FALSE.

that's pretty much what i have done.

Ok I didn't know you can use channel inside a trigger, so ... OK GO CHANNEL IS ALSO APPROVED (thought I'm not sure that channel can be used inside a trigger in tareting form)
^ FIXED

that's why i can't use that action, because it's only supposed to be instant ability, while my ability is a Target Point- Ability

thanks for your suggestion and don't double post..

 

[best_player_88]

that's pretty much what i have done.


that's why i can't use that action, because it's only supposed to be instant ability, while my ability is a Target Point- Ability

thanks for your suggestion and don't double post..

Glad to help

 

[Maker]

and it's a Target Point while Channel can only be used within this action

• Unit - Order (Triggering unit) to Special - Channel

Channel can be use with whatever order id you give it.

For example you can set the Base order id to "defend" and then use Channel with

• Unit - Order Paladin 0003 <gen> to Human Footman - Defend

 

[junius619]

you sounded like a doctor who tells the family of the patient that the patient died...

but, thank you and i can't rape you..

see hero, mr deffskull is meanie...

 

[best_player_88]

Channel can be use with whatever order id you give it.

For example you can set the Base order id to "defend" and then use Channel with

• Unit - Order Paladin 0003 <gen> to Human Footman - Defend

WOW
+rep for uniqe knowledge but can it be used with something else than no target (defend won't really help here)

 

[DESTROYER123]

You could make two same abilities.
For example Thunder Clap.
Create a thunder clap with all its effects (damage, slow, thunder wave e.t.c.)
and a thunder clap with nothing ( zero damage, no slow no thunder wave)
If you want the real thunder clap to have cooldown while not casted replace the real ability with the no-effect one. Whenever you want the ability to be real casted (with all its efects) replace it with the real one.

 

[TwoVenomous]

Channel can be use with whatever order id you give it.

For example you can set the Base order id to "defend" and then use Channel with

thank you! i must try this !

You could make two same abilities.
For example Thunder Clap.
Create a thunder clap with all its effects (damage, slow, thunder wave e.t.c.)
and a thunder clap with nothing ( zero damage, no slow no thunder wave)
If you want the real thunder clap to have cooldown while not casted replace the real ability with the no-effect one. Whenever you want the ability to be real casted (with all its efects) replace it with the real one.

I already did, what i want to achieve is when the spell casted, within 10 seconds it can be cast up to 2 times more and then go to cooldown, but when 10 seconds are out and the spell haven't been casted at all, then the ability would be on cooldown.

 

[best_player_88]

thank you! i must try this !


I already did, what i want to achieve is when the spell casted, within 10 seconds it can be cast up to 2 times more and then go to cooldown, but when 10 seconds are out and the spell haven't been casted at all, then the ability would be on cooldown.

Wow so he suggested to make the "Shockwave" ability removed and add "Thunder Clap (fake)" with zero values and swap whenever you want the shockwave to be on fake cooldown? WOW this is pro, really this is intense knowledge this is perfection I APPROVE IT

 

[Maker]

...can it be used with something else than no target

Yes.

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  • Events
    • Player - Player 1 (Red) skips a cinematic sequence
  • Conditions
  • Actions
    • Player - Disable Channel1 for (Triggering player)
    • Player - Enable Channel2 for (Triggering player)
    • Unit - Order Paladin 0003 <gen> to *use channel*
    • Wait 3.00 seconds // Cooldown time. A timer would be more exact
    • Player - Disable Channel2 for (Triggering player)
    • Player - Enable Channel1 for (Triggering player)

Disable abil 2 initially. Make abil 2 non hero dummy ability and set follow through time to 0.

Most units have cast point of 0.3-0.5 seconds, so once you give the order it takes that long until the spell starts. The unit stops alking also. But you could use LastOrder library, that makes the unit to resume whatever it was doing after the spell goes on cooldown.

 

[Justicebringer]

You can do what Rulerofiron or Destroyer said. But with starting a 10sec timer when the ability is casted. If the ability is being casted whithin those 10secs, an other timer must be started and the former removed. Once the timer expires then should be the fake ability cooldown, or the real abilitys trigger disableing occur.

 

[TwoVenomous]

Thanks a lot, sir Maker!
it worked

and also thanks to everyone for the suggestions

+rep

Problem Solved!