Chemical Rage

[GIMLI_2]

Hi guys, i got a problem with a transform ability, chemical rage. i selected my normal unity and the alternate unit, but what happens if i activate the ability: he transforms to the normal unit (so nothing happens) and after the duration, where he should transform back, he is transforming into the alternate. dont know how to fix that.
thanks for help

 

[IcemanBo]

Have you maybe mixed up the values in OE?

 

[jonhysone]

post triggers or photos from the object editor ( depending on the ability ) so we can help ._.

 

[Vinz]

I don't understand the post.

 

[Spartipilo]

Why don't you swap the values? Use the alternate on the supposed default, and the default unit on the supposed alternate.

 

[GIMLI_2]

Why don't you swap the values? Use the alternate on the supposed default, and the default unit on the supposed alternate.

i did that, it works fine, but theres one bug. if the unit is created or spawned, it will automatically activate the ability. dont know why. i cant post triggers and screenshots aren necessary. ill explain it again:
i wanna use a transform ability for a custom unit (like chemical rage or metamorphosis...)
i made an alternate unit (the unit it transforms to) but it doesnt work. if i cast the ability, nothing happens first and after the transform duration, it swaps to the alternate unit

 

[Daffa]

use Metamorphosis or Bear Form instead.

 

[Spartipilo]

Here's your solution:

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/general-mapping-tutorials-278/hero-passive-transformation-198482/

 

[Xonok]

Some values in object editor can severely break specific abilities(like morphs).
For instance, duration and cast time act very strangely on morphs.

 

[GIMLI_2]

Here's your solution:

Hero passive transformation

dont want to permanently transform him. well ill try the metamorphosis

 

[Spartipilo]

You can use a timer to transform it back.

 

[Xonok]

The passive transformation trick can also be used through an ability.

Create a dummy ability that is based on channel. Make sure it's visible.
Then when this ability is used you do the transformation trick.

 

[Vinz]

But the timer wouldn't be visible in that case, right?

 

[Xonok]

But the timer wouldn't be visible in that case, right?

Oh, so you want a timed uber mode, not a morph?
That way the transformation trick isn't as good.

 

[Voidwalker]

Was going to start a thread but then I saw this one...

GIMLI, I was JUST having a very similar issue too today. Mine is an ability that in theory morphs a unit into a Chaos-type version of itself. But for some reason, upon casting the ability, the "normal" unit doesn't change its tinting color (since I don't have models to match, I use the alternate unit looks the same but with a redder tinting), even though the rest of the Art applies normally: a few hand attachments, an 'Art - Caster' effect, etc.

Only when the transformation wears off, the unit changes its tinting color; and from then on every time they cast the ability, the reddened version becomes the normal unit while the untinted one has the Chaos-type damage and uses the PitLord sound set, etc.

Is this really due to some bug rooted in morph-based abilities themselves or is it something else? I'm using a custom version of Metamorphosis.


EDIT: Nevermind. Found the solution. Turns out that tinting is always messed up whenever a morphing ability is involved, even in non-custom units. Had to resort to triggers to produce the desired effect.

 

[Xonok]

GIMLI, I was JUST having a very similar issue too today. Mine is an ability that in theory morphs a unit into a Chaos-type version of itself. But for some reason, upon casting the ability, the "normal" unit doesn't change its tinting color (since I don't have models to match, I use the alternate unit looks the same but with a redder tinting), even though the rest of the Art applies normally: a few hand attachments, an 'Art - Caster' effect, etc.

Only when the transformation wears off, the unit changes its tinting color; and from then on every time they cast the ability, the reddened version becomes the normal unit while the untinted one has the Chaos-type damage and uses the PitLord sound set, etc.

Is this really due to some bug rooted in morph-based abilities themselves or is it something else? I'm using a custom version of Metamorphosis.


EDIT: Nevermind. Found the solution. Turns out that tinting is always messed up whenever a morphing ability is involved, even in non-custom units. Had to resort to triggers to produce the desired effect.

I've also had the tinting issue.
It seems to be an actual bug, since the tinting color is always changed to what the previous unit should be.
This issue also exists with upgrading(like scout tower to watch tower, but with units).

 

[GIMLI_2]

well that was actually my problem, i changed the tinting. i just thought it wouldnt transform. thanks for your help! +rep to helpers