Bosses of Warcraft 0.59

[dragoon431]

Awesome dosn't begin to describe this map infinity/5 is that even possible? GOOD JOB!

 

[Sverkerman]

Awesome dosn't begin to describe this map infinity/5 is that even possible? GOOD JOB!

Thank you very much!

 

[SanD3R]

hey sverk =)
mb you posted changelog new vers always when they go?
it would be great

 

[Sverkerman]

Sure, ill do it abit later.

 

[BloodyKaiser]

awesome!!!!!
_____________________

 

[nature3186]

Very nice.!

 

[Sverkerman]

Thanks

 

[-Bloody Hound-]

So will you add the change log?

 

[Sverkerman]

Expect it this week

 

[clockwork2]

could you implement an AI system?as i don't have many friends to play with T.T

+rep it's awesome but...how do you get out of the starting area???

 

[Sverkerman]

Read description

 

[clockwork2]

err....what does that mean????

 

[uYkam]

nice

 

[Sverkerman]

err....what does that mean????

The description of a map is where all the information about it is displayed. Please go to page 1, scroll up to the top and start reading,

 

[clockwork2]

still have no idea what you mean.....doesn't say anything about gates......i tried professions and 5 player mode myself,still doesn't work..

 

[Sverkerman]

Read the map description.

 

[ap0calypse]

Read the map description.

Seriously dude, it's not there. It says nothing about getting out of the starting area. The videos only show you and your team fighting bosses, nothing about the starting area either.
Besides, stop adding the rep-thing in your description. I will -rep you next time you add it.

 

[Sverkerman]

What the... My description bugged it seems like... I had that kind of info there before.

Sorry.

Will tomorrow.

 

[clockwork2]

oh...ok......T.T game isn't fun when you can't even get out of the starting area...T.T it drove me crazy....i even tried -portal!!

 

[Sverkerman]

I don't know why you told me that the information which he asks for is not in the map description, Ap0calypse.

It stands very clearly the needed amount of players for each mode even tho it doesn't stand that this is not a single player map.

However, I will add the info about this map not being single player and remove the +rep thingy since I make new vers almost every day anyway.

 

[ap0calypse]

I don't know why you told me that the information which he asks for is not in the map description, Ap0calypse.

It stands very clearly the needed amount of players for each mode even tho it doesn't stand that this is not a single player map.

However, I will add the info about this map not being single player and remove the +rep thingy since I make new vers almost every day anyway.

I told you, because you were being stupid to be frank.
He asked something, you said "Read description", he said it isn't in there, you said "Read description". That's just plain idiocy.
You know, you COULD be a little bit more friendly towards people who want to play your map.

Additionally, I suggest you either let people play this in single player (even though they'll certainly lose), or show some kind of message that says "You cannot play this in Single Player" at the beginning of the game.
The first option is the best one though. No reason to disable single player.

 

[clockwork2]

T.T,so i'm doomed to die in this game?NNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

 

[Sverkerman]

Ap0calypse I have a special system which makes each boss fight begin when the correct amount of players are in it.

If in single player, people can hack the game and easily access all the end game items.

If in Multiplayer only, in 80% of the cases the game will be protected from hacks because of the B.net systems and/or Garena protections.

 

[.VTZ.]

@clockwork2 - plz stop doing random posts on hiver's maps threads ok?

 

[clockwork2]

ok..

 

[Black-kitty]

Awesome!!

 

[clockwork2]

well you could make a system where if someone activated a cheat code,it would retype it and counteract it....although it would repeatedly retype it then....

 

[Sverkerman]

well you could make a system where if someone activated a cheat code,it would retype it and counteract it....although it would repeatedly retype it then....

You can't do such things in GUI.

I already have a system to kick cheaters. It wasn't about cheaters, it was about hackers.

 

[clockwork2]

oh...

 

[Sverkerman]

You got B.net account?

 

[ap0calypse]

Ap0calypse I have a special system which makes each boss fight begin when the correct amount of players are in it.

If in single player, people can hack the game and easily access all the end game items.

If in Multiplayer only, in 80% of the cases the game will be protected from hacks because of the B.net systems and/or Garena protections.

How about disabling save/load in single player? It's fairly easy to do that and it provides fun for people who dislike playing in multiplayer.
Everyone gets what they want, win-win. Do it.

Just for the record: I believe I can get myself a maxed out character anytime I want (without actually doing anything in-game), so 'hacking' is relative.
I can hack your game without playing it. Whether you disable single player or not doesn't matter. I can disable that as well either way, probably (by deprotecting and changing some triggers).

 

[Sverkerman]

This map was not made for single player. It will destroy the whole idea of a map that I've been working on publishing for 6 years.

 

[ap0calypse]

This map was not made for single player. It will destroy the whole idea of a map that I've been working on publishing for 6 years.

Wait, what kind of an argument is that? Are you serious?
It won't change anything in your map. No objects will be different, the bosses will stay as strong as they are now, you will still need to team up with friends to slay them etc.

The only difference is that people can actually test the map in single player too then... (of course, saving is disabled - loading, on the other hand, should still be allowed).

How could that possibly "destroy the whole idea of the map"? If the idea is to team up with friends, then nothing will change. Or do you really expect people to fight bosses against which they always lose, unless they use cheats? Because without cheats I highly doubt you can kill bosses in single player.
So they'll have to turn to multiplayer for actual action either way.

 

[Druu]

I agree with Ap0calypse here, I'd like to play your map, but since I can't get anybody to join and stay and have no friend to play with, I'm sad to say that I can only do nothing in your map.

So in a map I can do nothing, what should be the rating of it?

 

[Sverkerman]

Some maps requires people to play with. This is one of those maps.

However, if you feel that way, what would you like to do in my map in single player? All cheats are disabled and in order to start a bossfight you need 5 or 10 players. If I would add a single player mode the map would get rated for that. That is not what I want. This map is a superior one in multiplayer which also it was designed to execute for.

It's like playing a TD with yourself and then rate it 1/5 because there was noone to play against.

If you want a single player map go play GoH, TKOK or something else, this is not a single player map.

If you wish to play BoW without using Battle.net I can announce that our community is growing huge and perhaps soon enough I will have access to my own Bosses of Warcraft room for Garena. Then perhaps you might be able to play the map without friends.

 

[-Bloody Hound-]

Sverkerman, i think you are .. hm how should i say this.

You created a map, so you know allmost everything about it, soo can maybe some one go singleplayer to farm proffession items? T_T you can do that if you dont have net atm or no one wants to do profs atm.... piz out

 

[ap0calypse]

Can't all of that be solved with a message like this:

"Since you are playing in single, cheats are enabled. Note that this map is meant for multi-player and your gaming experience will be heavily influenced by this."

Just an example, you could write anything there.
And if you DO get 1/5's for "i cant kil bos 1/5", then I'm here to remove those ratings.


As a side-note: when I test in single player, I rarely count gameplay as a factor to rate the map, because it is a very personal thing (some people hate it, others love it).
Although I do not expect anyone to do so of course.

 

[Sverkerman]

Ah okay thank you Ap0calypse!

Burke actually thats a good idea since I already removed all cheats that could be a possibility!

I think I will add that actually...

You think that's enough Ap0? Is it enough to be enabled to get gear the profession way in single player? Actually I think it would be a good idea since it would rather inspire people to really want to play either the 5 man mode or the 10 man mode.

 

[clockwork2]

You got B.net account?

no Sverkermen,though i have heard about hackers....They make me wanna RAGE QUIT

 

[Sverkerman]

no Sverkermen,though i have heard about hackers....They make me wanna RAGE QUIT

Then we got something in common I guess ^^

 

[clockwork2]

indeed

 

[.VTZ.]

an example for all players.
how can a map maker can make a AI for Impossible bosses per example?
its the same thing for me.

 

[clockwork2]

make em follow you and cast a specific spell?
AI 2 will chose warrior
AI 3 will chose priest
AI 4 will chose ranger
and so on

 

[.VTZ.]

make em follow you and cast a specific spell?
AI 2 will chose warrior
AI 3 will chose priest
AI 4 will chose ranger
and so on

and the boss skills avoid? the bots will perfectly always dodge boss spells?
so where is the fun factor on this?

 

[ap0calypse]

make em follow you and cast a specific spell?
AI 2 will chose warrior
AI 3 will chose priest
AI 4 will chose ranger
and so on

and the boss skills avoid? the bots will perfectly always dodge boss spells?
so where is the fun factor on this?

VTZ is correct here.
Players are not perfect, they have flaws, they do stupid things, etc. This adds the fun to the game.
If an AI is designed specifically to kill a certain boss, then it either
1) Has no flaws, the game will be boring
2) Has a programmed flaw, which, once you figure out what flaw, can be covered by using different tactics yourself.

The interaction between the different players is also very important, trying to hold a group of human players is different than letting AI's do what they're programmed to do.
A healer must always pay attention to other player's HP. Sometimes he heals too soon, at other times too late, an AI will (again) do this just in time (even with random values this does not give the same effect).


AI's simply cannot be made in this map.

 

[clockwork2]

well i figured just make em attack a boss...

 

[Sverkerman]

well i figured just make em attack a boss...

I lold so hard xD

My map is abit more than just hitting a big rock dude with 99999 hp with normal attacks.

 

[-Bloody Hound-]

cool

 

[clockwork2]

i know but it's either that or make em know the bosses weakness and ruin the game.... it's your choice though...

 

[jxtranghero]

cool

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