Anyone else feels like Editing is relaxing as F**K?

[JJhonJames]

I don't know if you guys feel like that. But I somehow have much more fun, after a day of work, using the World Editor than actually playing any game. For some reason, creating, editing, imagining things that I will probably (98%) never release feels satisfactory as hell. I usually like to play games where you are able to build something, like a Survival Game, some Sim Game, etc, and pleases as hell seeing the end result, and I'm the kind of person that likes everything like so right, so aligned, so smooth.

Even tho I suck at solving problems, and my creativity is waaaaaay too limited, but perhaps this is the reason? Because when you actually gets past these barriers and you get a result that pleases you, makes it seem like your effort was worth it (even tho it wasn't, because I don't get anything in return LMAO). I lost the magic touch for enjoying games. Not sure if it's only me, but every game nowadays looks boring and unfun. It's not that I don't enjoy games, but for example, let's say you have a Website/Wiki for a game, or you host any game dedicated server (say, a Minecraft Server). I got into a phase that managing the game Website and Server feels much more fun than actually playing Minecraft, or even my Server itself.

Anyway, if anyone else feels like that.

 

[Fleck]

It's not you. Modern 'AAA' games are just plain, generic, unoptimized garbage. Passion is replaced apathetic greed with blatantly anti-customer business practices. Only some indie games are worth playing in this day and age.

New doesn't necessarily mean better anyway. You can just play old but good games. Games like Warcraft 3 that has modding greatly increases its replayability and lifespan.

But with my rant aside, yes I also feel the same sometimes just letting my creativity flow. I sinked way too many hours into playing LOAPs solo in the past, but in the current is world editing and playing Rimworld with mods. Which is probably why these simulator games are so popular.

 

[mukuro14]

It's not you. Modern 'AAA' games are just plain, generic, unoptimized garbage. Passion is replaced apathetic greed with blatantly anti-customer business practices. Only some indie games are worth playing in this day and age.

New doesn't necessarily mean better anyway. You can just play old but good games. Games like Warcraft 3 that has modding greatly increases its replayability and lifespan.

But with my rant aside, yes I also feel the same sometimes just letting my creativity flow. I sinked way too many hours into playing LOAPs solo in the past, but in the current is world editing and playing Rimworld with mods. Which is probably why these simulator games are so popular.

Yes, many game manufacturers always take a bad attitude towards their games.

Players are always required to make some MODS to make the game more dynamic.

Speaking of which, I have to mention a stand-alone game that I think is a pity.

wartales，The quality of this game is simply too good，Unfortunately, the game manufacturers don't know what kind of negative reasons are, and players are never allowed to make MOD for this game.

On this basis, manufacturers even have to mark every DLC at a sky-high price.

They drained the game of its last value in this terrible way. It's pathetic.

 

[Mint Blancmanche]

I don't know if you guys feel like that. But I somehow have much more fun, after a day of work, using the World Editor than actually playing any game. For some reason, creating, editing, imagining things that I will probably (98%) never release feels satisfactory as hell. I usually like to play games where you are able to build something, like a Survival Game, some Sim Game, etc, and pleases as hell seeing the end result, and I'm the kind of person that likes everything like so right, so aligned, so smooth.

Even tho I suck at solving problems, and my creativity is waaaaaay too limited, but perhaps this is the reason? Because when you actually gets past these barriers and you get a result that pleases you, makes it seem like your effort was worth it (even tho it wasn't, because I don't get anything in return LMAO). I lost the magic touch for enjoying games. Not sure if it's only me, but every game nowadays looks boring and unfun. It's not that I don't enjoy games, but for example, let's say you have a Website/Wiki for a game, or you host any game dedicated server (say, a Minecraft Server). I got into a phase that managing the game Website and Server feels much more fun than actually playing Minecraft, or even my Server itself.

Anyway, if anyone else feels like that.

in world editor no one can kill you, unless your machine if faulty and prone to BSOD lol, otherwise it's very relaxing doing stuff in world editor.

 

[Retera]

Anyway, if anyone else feels like that.

If anyone else feels like that... then what?

I'm sorry if this in any way sounds offensive, but your almost rhetorical assumption that it is reasonable to publicly poll for who else has feelings matching your own -- to me -- sounds like a way of interacting that very possibly might have come from social media. If a social system could train you or me to go out into the digital world and collect up a bunch of "reactions" from folks who have similar opinions or mannerisms to ourselves, because those "reactions" are stored in a database that some person other than us owns according to the current laws, it is then possible for that "some person" to sell this information to people who want to manipulate or change the face of our society by better understanding which kinds of people are out there.

And I don't know if you're guilty of that, maybe you're the most honest guy and just really wanted to know who else was like you. But in my experience, one of the last great times that I really sat and enjoyed World Editor in the same style as how I use to do daily in my youth... was when the freaking internet died and I was cut off from the world, and in the void I opened the old CD game version's offline World Editor on my computer.

So, if I sound offensive, I don't meant to direct that at you. The only person I should direct that at, probably, is myself. Because I am here, surfing through the forums, when in fact if I was in the World Editor I would probably feel a greater sense of doing what was actually meaningful and enjoyable to me, which I am presently not doing as I sit and type this.

One of the ways that I cheat, and lie to myself, is to public onto YouTube whatever stupid things that I make in World Editor. By doing that, I can imagine that my map will have an audience and a reason for being even if I won't succeed in convincing other humans to actually play it. In a world where my brain is already attacked and taken over by social media, making a pointless cinematic map to turn into a YouTube video is a way for me to relive the past without having to... fight... these AI things that are poking holes in my consciousness. Sort of like working together with a villain I reckon I can never escape because it's easier than getting them to go away, and results in me "kind of" doing what I formerly found meaningful.

Edit:
But now that I spell it out as a strand of thought in front of myself, so clearly defining how I changed from using World Editor in a legitimate way to an illegitimate social media way... perhaps I wish it wasn't so.

 

[Vibe]

Since 2010 when I clicked on the World Editor, I've been immersed in the joy of creating.

Someone else is playing Warcraft III and I'm playing Warcraft III World Editor, yes I'm playing World Editor!

Even though 99% of my maps are garbage and won't be released at all!

The creation alone is enough to make me happy!

Whenever I'm out of school or after work, I open the World Editor.

Whenever I think of a brilliant idea, I jot it down and open the world editor.

Happy happy happy cat meme

 

[JJhonJames]

Since 2010 when I clicked on the World Editor, I've been immersed in the joy of creating.

Someone else is playing Warcraft III and I'm playing Warcraft III World Editor, yes I'm playing World Editor!

Even though 99% of my maps are garbage and won't be released at all!

The creation alone is enough to make me happy!

Whenever I'm out of school or after work, I open the World Editor.

Whenever I think of a brilliant idea, I jot it down and open the world editor.

Happy happy happy cat meme

Normal people games: shooting, defusing, farming, defeating monsters.

My game: Set Temp_Unit = Picked Unit.

 

[Retera]

My game: Set Temp_Unit = Picked Unit.

Like I said above, mine used to be that.

Then it got taken over by AI, and became "Set VariableSet GoodMusic = True"

 

[Amigoltu]

Only some indie games are worth playing in this day and age.

It was always the case. It will, probably, always be the case. Letting investors dictate what your product is like is the end of the business. Not just games, any business. Investors only seek profit, and they carry none of the responsibility. They don't give a sh*t.

I will correct myself - letting investors in is the end of the business. Indies always were the ones making real games and innovating. "AAA" is only producing substance-less eye-candy to attract zombie consumers. And Twitch game streamers.

 

[Footman16]

Yeah the games industry is rubbish for a lot of reasons but let's keep things on the topic of how relaxing editing is in Warcraft 3 and not stray too far off-topic.

 

[Retera]

Okay so here's something else I thought was really interesting. A lot of people probably already know this, but in 2019 I started on a silly project to make my own version of Warcraft 3 that runs on a different game engine. But in order to make sure my version usually worked how I expected, in many cases I tested existing Warcraft 3 maps on my version to see how that would go. This is a violation of Warcraft 3 terms of service, but so is JNGP, so at some point when I was already a violator of the terms and yet Blizzard didn't ban my account, I thought I could probably get away with that. So I was playing these maps on my own engine, but then I wanted more to test, so I started to make Warcraft 3 maps but then play those maps on my engine. This increased the frequency with which I actually created Warcraft 3 maps using Frozen Throne editor, usually patch 1.22 or 1.26 or 1.27. Many of these maps were really silly and fun, just looking at what different parts of Warcraft 3 do and how they play -- what works and what doesn't work, poking it a bit, remembering what I know and I what don't know.

I've heard people say that drug users build up a tolerance and then need more and more. I think maybe in a similar way, there were times I got like that with Warcraft III. Even when I probably could make anything, if I already knew how to make it then often I didn't bother. But the silly project of trying to mimic the game in my own engine made me want to ask questions again, to ponder how Warcraft III works, and so for me I think it was a little bit like resetting that tolerance. If you think you know everything, and then you find out that you do not... maybe it's a bit like if you think you already felt everything there was to feel, then find out that you did not.

Perhaps what I'm saying is totally ridiculous, but for me it was a very fun way to enjoy Warcraft III map editor.

 

[Greedy Procrastinator]

I liked to play melee maps, but oneday i opened world editor and things changed. Even though im not good in it, my first ever created map was where I spawned many footmen versus lots of ghouls and it was entertaining aa hell