Age of Fighting Sail (v0.0.9)

[Mechanical Man]

And how would the boarding look like?

 

[Fingolfin]

It would basically work the same as in "Bloody Pirates" (a map which i totally recommend you to try), where boarding will take place on a separate part of the map which is modeled after your ship deck, and the units in your crew are spawned as units which fight against the enemy crew. Crew are essentially items which you purchase, with varying quality and cost. During boarding actions, both ships are invulnerable and cannot fire.

 

[Mechanical Man]

Well, I hoped for something less complicated, like transported unit being used as crew is semi-randomized combat (think of quick combat age of wonders), then the loser ship is owned by enemy. I had some thought to implement this in godfall for To the Great sea or even Islands in the sky, but abandoned, because it looked too much of hassle.

 

[TKF]

And yes, i did plan to add more stuff, including boarding! Initially, i wanted to make an AoS stype map where each team control two or three three star forts, and the enemy team would buy troops to try and capture them through boarding/invading. You'd make gold by purchasing trade items in your port and selling them at ports on the enemy's side of the map.

I tried this map, it has amazing projectile system and its very realistic. Though its quite dull to only fight ships on ships on the sea at the current stage, its quite impressive. Similar with Uncharted Waters at current stage, but more realistic made. This map systems is really mindblowing.


That concept of also making it a AoS type map I would really like to try.

 

[SNIper of DARKness]

This map is truly well made, it even allows you to play with bots if you lack friends and you're just really, Really lonely..
But great map yes.. Can't wait to play it with all those friends of mine.. hope bots still work... no reason..

 

[Fingolfin]

Well, I hoped for something less complicated, like transported unit being used as crew is semi-randomized combat (think of quick combat age of wonders), then the loser ship is owned by enemy. I had some thought to implement this in godfall for To the Great sea or even Islands in the sky, but abandoned, because it looked too much of hassle.

Yeah, i could probably do this, and it's probably a good idea simply to allow you to keep an eye on the battlefield rather than moving the camera to a whole new scene while the battle rages on. It depends though on whether you want each player to have one ship, or multiple ships - with multiple ships, your way is the obvious one since you need to be able to control the rest of your fleet. With one ship per player, you can go either way - although personally i feel that just sitting around watching while random number generation occurs is kinda dull.

I tried this map, it has amazing projectile system and its very realistic. Though its quite dull to only fight ships on ships on the sea at the current stage, its quite impressive. Similar with Uncharted Waters at current stage, but more realistic made. This map systems is really mindblowing.


That concept of also making it a AoS type map I would really like to try.

Thanks! I agree that the combat is a bit dull at the moment, i am still trying to iron out how the AoS-based gameplay should be. The main problem is ground pathing, since i haven't added support for beaching your ships yet and i'm not sure how to make the AI properly avoid land. The way i had it figured so far would simply be to save the old position of the ship, and once i update it, check if the new position is pathable - and if not, move back to the old position. This would cause ships to kinda drift and not lose speed when beaching, but i guess it's good enough.

Gameplay-wise, i guess the easiest thing would be a classic AoS-style map - each team has three forts, and your mission is to destroy the enemy forts simply by firing cannonballs at them until dead (while they fire back). Once they are dead, you can engage the enemy port. I still think a trading mechanic could be in good place though, and other items could include ship timber (used for hull repair), crewmen (for boarding), and maybe special ammunition (such as chain and canister shot) if that doesn't make things too complicated/clutter the inventory. Ship upgrades (hp, armor, speed, etc) would be static and purchased at the port.

This map is truly well made, it even allows you to play with bots if you lack friends and you're just really, Really lonely..
But great map yes.. Can't wait to play it with all those friends of mine.. hope bots still work... no reason..

I can play with you tonight if you are up for it!! Just gonna play some BFG:Armada then i'll jump on Skype

 

[Mechanical Man]

Yeah, i could probably do this, and it's probably a good idea simply to allow you to keep an eye on the battlefield rather than moving the camera to a whole new scene while the battle rages on. It depends though on whether you want each player to have one ship, or multiple ships - with multiple ships, your way is the obvious one since you need to be able to control the rest of your fleet. With one ship per player, you can go either way - although personally i feel that just sitting around watching while random number generation occurs is kinda dull.

Well godfall definitely contains multiple ship, allowing also building of them, which demands rather simple system. I see you have multiple ships too, although limited in number.

 

[Fingolfin]

New update!

It is now possible to board other ships! When boarding, your ship launches a rope which will attempt to pull the ships together. The mass of the ships is a factor in this, so a sloop trying to board a battleship is more likely to be pulled behind it like a tiny dog on a leash - generally it requires some timing to succeed. Once the ship are in contact, the boarding procedure will start, and the crews will roll against each other every second based on combat rating, killing up to 3 crewmen on either side. The boarding ends when one of the ship runs out of crew or the boarding ship disengages. If you kill off the enemy crew, you will capture their ship and put a portion of your own remaining crew on it. If you only have one poor crewman left, the enemy ship will be scuttled for bounty.

There are four different crew types so far - Sailors, Carpenters, Privateers and Marines. Sailors are the cheapest and most basic crew type with the lowest combat rating. Carpenters will increase your repair speed by 0.5hp/s per unit. Privateers have medium combat rating, while Marines have high, at a higher price. You can purchase crew for your ship in a rudimentary ship store at your spawn (once i start working on the AoS version there will be proper stores). All ships come with a standard crew of Sailors - the larger ships also have some Marines.

Your ships can now also fire canister shots, which are good for killing off crew at short range. They are most effective when fired at a point where the hull is damaged, and the amount of casualties is also proportional to how crowded the ship is (if there is one last crewman left on a huge battleship, you are unlikely to hit him). Canisters are practically ineffective at killing crew if the hull is intact, though they still deal some damage (only 30% that of cannonballs, though). They can be good for killing smaller ships that have snuck up close to you, thinking they could get below your broadside.

Another cool feature is that you can now select your fleet ensign (flag) at the start of each round - you can choose between Britain, France, or Pirates. Finally, the AI now has support for repairing and boarding enemy ships when the situation is opportune.

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A small fleet flying french colors

 

[TG:Amtelvidia]

i dont know why but i cant open this map with world editor
and not even by playing it in warcraft's custom game or lan.

but still it is a really good and awesome map!

 

[Fingolfin]

Thank you! The map is protected, so it can't be opened in the editor.

Are you saying the map can't be played?

 

[TG:Amtelvidia]

yeah its like when i select it in custom game or any match in wc3 players dont appear.

and when i select start it just doesnt work, maybe its because my wc3 is not that updated... idk.

 

[Fingolfin]

What version of wc3 are you on?

 

[TG:Amtelvidia]

i know this is rediculous but i have the 1.21 version... yeah so i can't download the new patch because the battlenet server has a really slow download rate.

 

[TG:Amtelvidia]

any way i dont want to bother you right now with these stupid problems i have in my "wooden pc"

so yeah have a good day great master of modeling and knowledge of the hive!!!

 

[Fingolfin]

Haha that does explain it, you need at least 1.29b to play this map as it uses hashtables which were introduced in that version. I'm glad it's a backwards compatibility issue and not a "forwards" one", i.e. that it broke from a recent patch.

 

[deepstrasz]

Haha that does explain it, you need at least 1.29b to play this map

Weird, the site says the recommended version is 1.21b. Last updated in 2016. Was there even 1.29 then?

 

[Fingolfin]

Weird, the site says the recommended version is 1.21b. Last updated in 2016. Was there even 1.29 then?

Sorry, i meant 1.23b.

 

[Xisthename]

Amazing work But how can one find the ship models?