Advanced Melee AI

[Bogdanov89]

Thank you!!!
Please tell me will the AI be smarter/better if i disable the "optimized scripts" , so that it can use more CPU/memory?

 

[IceSandslash]

Thank you!!!
Please tell me will the AI be smarter/better if i disable the "optimized scripts" , so that it can use more CPU/memory?

Νο. Consider extra CPU/memory just wasted memory for all intents and purposes.

 

[VPanda]

If I'll use some previous version, will it solve UD grieving problems?

 

[Squaresoft]

You should make to the Altar of Heroes!,

 

[YouMoMCallME]

Best AI mod !

 

[Mint Blancmanche]

any news on a fix for the undead AI? they ruin every game by haunting allied gold mines lol.

 

[Strategy Master]

any news on a fix for the undead AI? they ruin every game by haunting allied gold mines lol.

Its been noted, but haven't had time to investigate.

 

[Strategy Master]

Hello guys! what happened to Dynamic AMAI? a long ago it was adjusting strategies midgame.
And what about Undead Ally griefing, will it be fixed?
thx!

Dynamic Strategies are included. The built in strategy build orders are still followed and still change during game, but once current strategy build order is exhausted it will just build units by itself based on what it thinks is best. Or you can make your own empty strategies for the same effect immediately.

any news on a fix for the undead AI? they ruin every game by haunting allied gold mines lol.

3.4.2b now out with fix and another lag fix.

 

[Bogdanov89]

Thanks for the update!

Sorry if i missed something obvious but is there a way for me to choose the general behavior for allied and enemy AI while in game?
For example i would love if ALL the AI would first build up to 50+ population before they attempt to fight each other, so big battles happen.

Also more aggressive expansions would be great, if the AI runs out of the current gold source.
Thank you!

 

[YouMoMCallME]

Thanks for the update!

 

[Strategy Master]

Thanks for the update!

Sorry if i missed something obvious but is there a way for me to choose the general behavior for allied and enemy AI while in game?
For example i would love if ALL the AI would first build up to 50+ population before they attempt to fight each other, so big battles happen.

Also more aggressive expansions would be great, if the AI runs out of the current gold source.
Thank you!

Yes the commander manually allows you to stop all attacks from AI allies or cancel that. But you have to decide when, you can't set up conditional settings.

 

[Strategy Master]

Reuploaded 3.4.2b to fix an issue with the Strategy Manager unable to run.

 

[alex11chr]

Reuploaded 3.4.2b to fix an issue with the Strategy Manager unable to run.

Great news! @gartoll any chance we could get an updated map pack please?

 

[IceSandslash]

I suggest waiting for next version for 2.0.2 support.

 

[gartoll]

Great news! @gartoll any chance we could get an updated map pack please?

I know its already been 2 weeks but you'll have to wait like 1 more, I'm away from my pc so i cant work on it yet

Also nee patch being released might mean new AMAI as well, not always, but there is a chance

 

[Strategy Master]

Released 3.5.0 with 2.0.2 support. Had to release as is as oblivion remastered modding taking all of my modding time at present.

 

[gartoll]

yo thats awesome tysm, btw here are the patch notes Release 3.5.0 · SMUnlimited/AMAI

BTW

• Fixes to random hero mode not being responsive enough in detecting the hero and its skills.
  Does that mean that ATR (random heroes, races & mercenaries) work with AMAI now?
  
  
• Fixed a small issue where if AMAI upgraded to tier 2 a second time, it could trigger the tier up block when its not tiering up.
  Does that mean upgrading with a different building? In a real game if a player has tier 2, he will never tech to tier 2 with another building. Unless it means something like teching to t2 -> losing that building -> building new one -> upgrading the new one to t2

 

[Drukhari]

yo thats awesome tysm, btw here are the patch notes Release 3.5.0 · SMUnlimited/AMAI

BTW

• Fixes to random hero mode not being responsive enough in detecting the hero and its skills.
  Does that mean that ATR (random heroes, races & mercenaries) work with AMAI now?
  
  
• Fixed a small issue where if AMAI upgraded to tier 2 a second time, it could trigger the tier up block when its not tiering up.
  Does that mean upgrading with a different building? In a real game if a player has tier 2, he will never tech to tier 2 with another building. Unless it means something like teching to t2 -> losing that building -> building new one -> upgrading the new one to t2

I just tested it, doesn't seem to be able to play ATR.

 

[gartoll]

I just tested it, doesn't seem to be able to play ATR.

Ye I know I just tested it too.


Anyways as usual I have my own ready-made map packs

9-5-2025 update: Tidehunters updated to latest version D:

500 maps pack here:

Dropbox

www.dropbox.com

This time I also created a mini pack with all the ladder maps on W3Champions from 1v1-4v4 + FFA. 75 maps, way smaller file size for those who care. Link: Dropbox




I HAVENT TESTED THE AMAI ITSELF BECAUSE ITS LATE AND I WANTED TO COMPLETE IT TODAY IF THERE ARE ANY MISTAKES TELL ME. change logs in the top pack

 

[Youkohieama]

Ye I know I just tested it too.


Anyways as usual I have my own ready-made map packs

500 maps pack here:

Dropbox

www.dropbox.com

This time I also created a mini pack with all the ladder maps on W3Champions from 1v1-4v4 + FFA. 75 maps, way smaller file size for those who care. Link: Dropbox




I HAVENT TESTED THE AMAI ITSELF BECAUSE ITS LATE AND I WANTED TO COMPLETE IT TODAY IF THERE ARE ANY MISTAKES TELL ME. change logs in the top pack

Thank you for these maps, it's awesome!

I had a question related to the updated maps though. I noticed W3C have updated maps, such as Tidehunters 1.2. But your map just says Tidehunters. Are these the current versions of the maps, or the older ones?

 

[gartoll]

Autu

Thank you for these maps, it's awesome!

I had a question related to the updated maps though. I noticed W3C have updated maps, such as Tidehunters 1.2. But your map just says Tidehunters. Are these the current versions of the maps, or the older ones?

Autumn Leaves, Boulder Vale, Last Refyge and Twisted Meadows are all on the latest version

I just noticed that Tidehunters is still on version 1.1 tho, so I created this updated version. Thanks for pointing it out!

Updated links to the old pack rn so new installers will get the fix automatically

AMAI link: Dropbox
AMAI vs Blizz: Dropbox
Blizz only: Dropbox

 

[Youkohieama]

I've tested a few 2v2 games without using commander, and so far my ally has been a pretty bad sport. The AI enemies will group up and attack together, but my ally doesn't listen to pings or even TP to help defend me. They will ping some random place on the map and announce they're creeping as my city burns. I've noticed they also don't TP to even save themselves, often dying with their portal.

Could you elaborate on the how the AI works a bit more? Does it recognize when an ally is being attacked and prioritize that? Does it listen to pings at all if I ping a camp I'm about to take, or an ally I'm attacking, or my own base? Why do AI and AI seem to sync up better than AI and myself, do I just need to follow what it's doing rather than wanting it to respond to my plans? Do they trigger their TPs based upon some internal logic with some randomizer, so sometimes they escape and sometimes they die with it?

This might be alleviated by the commander, but I'm a little confused how it works. Can I have the commander active in 2v2s with humans involved? Human and AI vs human and AI, would each player get to command their AI?

And lastly, is there a big readme somewhere where I can find these answers instead of bugging people lol.

 

[Youkohieama]

Separate post with specific bug report:

I've been watching AI vs AI to see how they move and react. My undead player walled itself in fully and couldn't get its heroes out of base.

The orc player had 5 grunts at half health or lower grouped around their fortress. They never made an effort to heal them, just leaving wounded units in a circle around their base.

 

[dark_future]

3.5.0 installed (macOS) works fine in 1 x 1, but campaign is broken in March of the Scourge mission, at first 10 sec all the 2 or 3 liches with all armies coming to my base and cu... on my face hardly, i swithched to normal difficulty - no difference.

 

[dark_future]

Also: if i play battle.net 1x1 game ends at 00m 00s with message: blizzard: warning game desync detected by plahyer [*******], my searches led me to the fact that this is a problem in the files, or the paths in the files

 

[IceSandslash]

Both of your issues are normal behavior, @dark_future. You have installed AMAI as a mod, which messes with campaigns and online play. If you don't want that to happen, uninstall the mod and download the maps instead.

 

[dark_future]

download the maps instead.

I just deactivated the scripts folder, it helped. Question, I want to make sure that I understood you correctly, do you mean download hotel rooms that are patched with an AMAI script?

 

[Ravager16829]

I just deactivated the scripts folder, it helped. Question, I want to make sure that I understood you correctly, do you mean download hotel rooms that are patched with an AMAI script?

If you are going for the map packages that has AMAI (not the entire mod), please ask gartoll.
His posts always contain several map packages that use the AMAI script built-in, which doesn't interfere with everything (like vanilla maps, campaigns, etc).
Make sure you have the latest patch of the game. Older versions of WC3 might not work (probably due to the latest version of AMAI only supporting the latest patch of the game).

 

[IceSandslash]

I just deactivated the scripts folder, it helped. Question, I want to make sure that I understood you correctly, do you mean download hotel rooms that are patched with an AMAI script?

If my understanding of broken Korean translation is right, yes. See gartoll's post just a few floors above.

 

[Mint Blancmanche]

same game AI comes to fuck up my 1st and 2nd expo lol.
latest game
latest amai (3.5.0)

 

[gartoll]

@dark_future AMAI is not made for campaigns, so bugs are expected. It's made to only work with the normal version of warcraft. This means that you also won't achieve much if you for example try to make the AMAI bot play as Naga through a mod. As they say in their Github page, "Advanced Melee AI is made to be used on melee maps only so please don't try to use it on completely custom maps (e.g Tower Defence). It will make no difference on such maps."

To play on your chosen maps without having problems when queueing online for bnet, you need to extract the maps from the game files and save them on a DIFFERENT folder. To do this:

1) Download "Casc storages" from here.
2) Open the .zip file (do not extract), click the x64 folder and then CascView.exe
3) When the app opens, click "Game Storage" on the top left. You will see two icons with the Battle.Net logo, where you'll press the leftmost one
4) Click on Warcraft III Reforged, then OK
5) Open the war3.w3mod folder, and then the maps folder.
6) There you will find all the maps that are shipped by Blizzard with the game themselves. Pick the ones you want, press rightclick on one of them, and then "Extract".
7) You will see a new box appear and on the top, you will see a text saying "Enter the directory that the files will be extracted to." One line below it and to your right, click on the icon with the 3 dots
8) Select Look in: Documents on the top, then open the Warcraft III and then "Maps" folder.
9) Press "Extract" and wait as this process is automatic (and quick ). You dont need to change any other settings
10) Your maps will be saved on "...\Documents\Warcraft III\Maps\Wave 6\test or depends\war3.w3mod\maps". You can change where they are in the game (for example you can create a folder so they appear under "...\Documents\Warcraft III\Maps\AMAI) and then install AMAI as usual.




Don't be intimidated by the list, I go into detail to make sure that you and any1 reading this in the future can understand this easily. Feel free to ask any questions. Sorry for the late reply, I didn't see the comments