Advanced Melee AI

[Strategy Master]

Hi Strategy Master, thank alot for the awesome work on this AI.
But i got a problem with 3.3.3 . If i go team with a Comp vs my friend + a Comp. We got disconect right after the AMAI chat in very first minute of the game .
Someone got this problem or just me ? I tested with many maps (no any trigger inside)

Thanks Domivn, is this happening with the Commander installed or without? If yes it may be a workaround to try without the Commander installed otherwise may be something causing the desync in the core logic.

 

[DOMIVN]

Thanks Domivn, is this happening with the Commander installed or without? If yes it may be a workaround to try without the Commander installed otherwise may be something causing the desync in the core logic.

Mine was without Commander. TFT Classic,and i'm playing on 1.31

 

[Strategy Master]

@DOMIVN I've just uploaded a 3.3.3a with some obvious fixes i've spotted that would have caused desyncs.

 

[DOMIVN]

@DOMIVN I've just uploaded a 3.3.3a with some obvious fixes i've spotted that would have caused desyncs.

Tested and it worked now. Thank alot bro, bug gone !!!

 

[Mint Blancmanche]

hate to be that guy, but this shit keeps happening lol.
had to come back and kill the allied undead expo.
latest AMAI and game version.

 

[Strategy Master]

hate to be that guy, but this shit keeps happening lol.
had to come back and kill the allied undead expo.
latest AMAI and game version.

I may need to make it extra forceful when it detects humans.

 

[Strategy Master]

Released 3.3.4 . Should fix your issue @Mint Blancmanche

 

[Mint Blancmanche]

seems to be working perfect, no one came to fuck around on my expo.
don't know if I asked before, but there's no way to send money to allied AI through the ally menu? because one AI left the game and once the heroes I was controlling died, there was no way to revive them, the AI had 0 gold left and no workers.

 

[gartoll]

I don't think there's one rn, maybe if you play through LAN that might fix something but that means that you'd have limited pauses etc so idk

 

[alex11chr]

Any chance someone can help a Mac player with an updated map pack with the new AMAI version?? Please and thank you!

 

[Mint Blancmanche]

is this a bug or just never working?
it's supposed to say an enemy color, but I have never seen it working.

also, when is the sound "creepaggrowhat1" used in the game? besides by the AMAI to announce their strategy? I'm using a custom one that sounds more pleasant, instead of the default one from the game that sound like someone is hitting your ears with a brick :S

edit: noticed it's working in some lines, must be some of the messages not written properly.

 

[DOMIVN]

Look like a bug, many heroes from Tavern not pick skill point . And Undead buy Goblin Shredder but not use it to havest lumber, just stay at base and keep very low lumber. Im using AMAI 3.3.4 and TFT no Commander , play on 1.31.1

 

[Weigazod]

I need some explanation on how to install this bundle. Been looking around this description page and all the external links for hours without being able to find the installation instruction.



So I am using War 3 patch 1.30.4.

1) What exactly do I need to download?

1.1) Do I only need to download the launcher?

1.2) Do I need to download the AI package too or does the launcher have with it the AI package already?



2) I got both the AI package and launcher.

2.1) Do I need to do anything else or is the installation of this bundle finished?

2.2) Do need to transfer the files and folders within the "TFT" folder of the AI package into the "TFT" folder within the "Scripts" folder of the Launcher folder?

 

[Mint Blancmanche]

why are night elves so prone to block the entrance on maps like market square that only have one way in and out of the base.
it happens very often and they end being stuck inside, only let space for worker unit to go out and expand xD

I need some explanation on how to install this bundle. Been looking around this description page and all the external links for hours without being able to find the installation instruction.



So I am using War 3 patch 1.30.4.

1) What exactly do I need to download?

1.1) Do I only need to download the launcher?

1.2) Do I need to download the AI package too or does the launcher have with it the AI package already?



2) I got both the AI package and launcher.

2.1) Do I need to do anything else or is the installation of this bundle finished?

2.2) Do need to transfer the files and folders within the "TFT" folder of the AI package into the "TFT" folder within the "Scripts" folder of the Launcher folder?

copy the amai folder inside the installer resources folder.
then run amai-electron-manager and install the version you need into the map.
make sure map is using jass language.

 

[Verdun]

So this looks really great, and I suppose if I want to find more about it I'll just have to install it and try it out, but since I don't have access to my PC right now, maybe a few questions. I believe I am working with a 1.29 Version (it supports 480 maps with 24 players).

1) From the latest Updates and Feedback here, is it essentially as simple as copying maps to new folders and running the installer? And going into "Scenario" in the editor for the right melee data I guess.

2) AI always has trouble with 480x480 maps, but I found even vanilla blizzard AI lets you have at least some gameplay in the 480ies (it's just that some of the AI players randomly decide to just keep spamming workers, and things like that). Does AMAI do better than vanilla AI with huge maps?

2a) Related, several posters said 24 player maps do not work because they crash. Is that still true?

3) The AI chat is a neat feature, but I feel it would clash with what I try to do especially in custom campaigns. Is it easy to turn off?

4) I do indeed work with modified melee maps, meaning units have different stats. Is that a no-go? Posters here said it is only really guaranteed to work with un-modded techtrees.
Also, one feature in my project is that buildable terrain is itself a resource, in that most of the terrain is unbuildable and every base location has only so much space, meaning you can never have all techtree buildings in one spot and are forced to expand if you ever want the full techtree. Is that something AMAI could handle? I know vanilla AI seems to be doing okay-ish as they seek relentlessly for building spots, but I haven't done too much testing yet.

 

[gartoll]

1) Yea and if something goes wrong feel free to ask here

2) I dont know
2a) Most likely cuz you are running older version which hasnt been updated in years

3) AMAI does not work with custom campaigns. Either way, I think it can be turned off

4) This works like Blizz AI does. If you modify units, then it should not be a problem. Some triggers will also not affect AMAI (eg adding a timer). But adding an entire new resouce is... not recommended. You will have to modify the entire code yourself, which is one hell of an overkill. It's gonna act like Blizz AI does.


Some other things that break AMAI are spawns close to each other, like Friends (tho it's fixed with the newest version, which is Reforged only) & stuff like gates. I remember I wanted to play a melee map in which a gate had to be destroyed for the teams to be able to finally meet each other (Dragon Fortess) and all bots would just try to enter without entering the gate, resulting in all of them being stuck

 

[gartoll]

Look like a bug, many heroes from Tavern not pick skill point . And Undead buy Goblin Shredder but not use it to havest lumber, just stay at base and keep very low lumber. Im using AMAI 3.3.4 and TFT no Commander , play on 1.31.1
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this might occur because AMAI is made for patch 1.36 data. AKA you might have downloaded incorrect version

 

[DOMIVN]

this might occur because AMAI is made for patch 1.36 data. AKA you might have downloaded incorrect version

Im using Classic AMAI bro, not the RF one.

 

[gartoll]

You're using AMAI 3.4.4 right? This is reforged, 1.36+ only. If you're playing on classic patch 1.29, it was around this time where Blizz AI broke and wouldnt learn any spells either

 

[AstralVP]

Hi all, I am using AMAI on Reforged (however the game is played on Classic graphics).

I have downloaded the AMAI installer and extracted the latest version (3.3.4) and the CASC View.exe to extract the maps I wanted into the folder C:\Users\User\Documents\Warcraft III\Maps\AMAI. All the maps were cut & paste into the folder and deleting the subfolders that contained them during extraction). After that I ran the AMAI electron Manager and chose 'Install Reforged on Folder' as instructed and after the process is completed I ran the game, chose a map from the AMAI folder & started the game, I did receive the messages that AMAI is installed for this game however when I used the cheatcode iseedeadpeople to check on what the computer is doing, all I saw was Orc Peons only mining gold and Night Elf Wisps only mining lumber without building additional workers or construct any buildings?

May I know what went wrong in my installation or should I try with earlier version of the installer?

 

[Mint Blancmanche]

Hi all, I am using AMAI on Reforged (however the game is played on Classic graphics).

I have downloaded the AMAI installer and extracted the latest version (3.3.4) and the CASC View.exe to extract the maps I wanted into the folder C:\Users\User\Documents\Warcraft III\Maps\AMAI. All the maps were cut & paste into the folder and deleting the subfolders that contained them during extraction). After that I ran the AMAI electron Manager and chose 'Install Reforged on Folder' as instructed and after the process is completed I ran the game, chose a map from the AMAI folder & started the game, I did receive the messages that AMAI is installed for this game however when I used the cheatcode iseedeadpeople to check on what the computer is doing, all I saw was Orc Peons only mining gold and Night Elf Wisps only mining lumber without building additional workers or construct any buildings?

May I know what went wrong in my installation or should I try with earlier version of the installer?

check that the map is using jass language.

 

[AstralVP]

check that the map is using jass language.

How do I check for that? And if not how do I fix it? Thanks.

 

[Mint Blancmanche]

How do I check for that? And if not how do I fix it? Thanks.

scenario>map options

 

[AstralVP]

scenario>map options

Sorry can you let me know how do I access those options with more detailed steps? Where do I look for that?

Thanks.

 

[gartoll]

Sorry can you let me know how do I access those options with more detailed steps? Where do I look for that?

Thanks.

open the map through the world editor, then scenario -> map properties is on the top.

Scirpt language is the second to last one. Here are screenshot for help

 

[Drukhari]

Hi there is a problem with Orc AI, when engaging into battle against other opponents, blademaster uses windwalk, he will run to his base and stay until the ability wears off. Sometimes he will move out of the base but will quickly decide to go back to the base. Basically he never gets to fight like that. I don't know what would make the AI behave like that, it's in many maps.

 

[Youkohieama]

Hello! I believe I have it working now, though I have a couple questions.
When I downloaded 3.3.4, there's both the installer and a regular AMAI folder. I moved the AMAI folder to the resources folder of the installer based upon some comments here, but nowhere in the install guide does it say to do that. Was that an unnecessary/harmful step, or is that the right move but not mentioned in the guide?

Another question has to do with difficulty. With Insane AI, does it get smarter? Or does it just keep the same double income hack the original AI does? Is there a way to have advanced difficulty without the income hack?

I've also noticed some "dumb" moves, where the enemy will send in a solo footmen to die against my towers. Or where they won't notice a siege unit attacking a tower until another unit gets close. Or they'll die to the last man, rather than retreating or pulling units back.
Is this known and intended, or a bug/failure on my end?

 

[dfire777]

Hello! I believe I have it working now, though I have a couple questions.
When I downloaded 3.3.4, there's both the installer and a regular AMAI folder. I moved the AMAI folder to the resources folder of the installer based upon some comments here, but nowhere in the install guide does it say to do that. Was that an unnecessary/harmful step, or is that the right move but not mentioned in the guide?

Another question has to do with difficulty. With Insane AI, does it get smarter? Or does it just keep the same double income hack the original AI does? Is there a way to have advanced difficulty without the income hack?

I've also noticed some "dumb" moves, where the enemy will send in a solo footmen to die against my towers. Or where they won't notice a siege unit attacking a tower until another unit gets close. Or they'll die to the last man, rather than retreating or pulling units back.
Is this known and intended, or a bug/failure on my end?

I agree with this. My biggest issue is that night elf and undead build like crazy while human and orc will not expand at all. They just sit in their main base area, build tons of troops and run out of gold eventually. No matter which ai personality they land on, it’s always the same. Is there any way to fix this?

 

[Strategy Master]

Hi there is a problem with Orc AI, when engaging into battle against other opponents, blademaster uses windwalk, he will run to his base and stay until the ability wears off. Sometimes he will move out of the base but will quickly decide to go back to the base. Basically he never gets to fight like that. I don't know what would make the AI behave like that, it's in many maps.

This is a new bug, will be fixed next release

Hello! I believe I have it working now, though I have a couple questions.
When I downloaded 3.3.4, there's both the installer and a regular AMAI folder. I moved the AMAI folder to the resources folder of the installer based upon some comments here, but nowhere in the install guide does it say to do that. Was that an unnecessary/harmful step, or is that the right move but not mentioned in the guide?

Another question has to do with difficulty. With Insane AI, does it get smarter? Or does it just keep the same double income hack the original AI does? Is there a way to have advanced difficulty without the income hack?

I've also noticed some "dumb" moves, where the enemy will send in a solo footmen to die against my towers. Or where they won't notice a siege unit attacking a tower until another unit gets close. Or they'll die to the last man, rather than retreating or pulling units back.
Is this known and intended, or a bug/failure on my end?

The latest installer already includes AMAI scripts for you, no need to compile or manually move from other artifact yourself anymore.

Insane AI its not smarter but does behave more like a hacker in some cases. e.g knows your power without having to scout or estimate. Note normal difficulty just does this less but still does it.

Each profile plays differently so some will be more aggressive, some will be cowardly. In addition there is hardcoded engine bugs that can cause units to suicide against random targets which we do our best to avoid these elements from triggering but its not perfect.

I agree with this. My biggest issue is that night elf and undead build like crazy while human and orc will not expand at all. They just sit in their main base area, build tons of troops and run out of gold eventually. No matter which ai personality they land on, it’s always the same. Is there any way to fix this?

That sounds odd, unless it something i already fixed in next release. Or your war3 version not quite compatible with AMAI version you installed.

 

[Youkohieama]

This is a new bug, will be fixed next release


The latest installer already includes AMAI scripts for you, no need to compile or manually move from other artifact yourself anymore.

Insane AI its not smarter but does behave more like a hacker in some cases. e.g knows your power without having to scout or estimate. Note normal difficulty just does this less but still does it.

Each profile plays differently so some will be more aggressive, some will be cowardly. In addition there is hardcoded engine bugs that can cause units to suicide against random targets which we do our best to avoid these elements from triggering but its not perfect.


That sounds odd, unless it something i already fixed in next release. Or your war3 version not quite compatible with AMAI version you installed.

Thank you for the response! I'll keep testing it out and playing around with it.

With the new Warcraft patch, do I need to do anything on my end to update AMAI?

 

[Strategy Master]

3.3.5 Released

Added​

• AMAI now takes direct control of alliance targets instead of using the hardcoded logic. This will enable better control and allow us to ignore the alliance target in some situations.
• (Installer) New UI improvements to select install options rather than using the toolbar menu. (jzy-chitong56)
• (DevTools) The scripts folder will include a Blizzard.j of the last version compiled as well as just the versioned copied so its easier to manually include into maps.

Changed​

• Support tech tree changes for 1.36.2.
• Better clarity on which versions of warcraft 3 to run AMAI on and whats optimal.
• Retreat Control will now protect own towns first over allied towns.

Fixed​

• Fixed factory rate to build extra production buildings as was too low as didn't take account of building cost vs income correctly.
• Fixed issue with boolean check of third mine timing.
• Fixed issue where mine required for ancient or item expansions could be nulled mid use which would break the logic. (jzy-chitong56)
• Fixed Mark of Talon upgrade only requires adept training from 1.36.1 war3 patch.
• Tweak expansion relocation logic to calculate when its likely already building so don't change location.
• Fixed issues with multiple mines at home base logic. (jzy-chitong56)
• AMAI will not expand fast unless there is twice as many mines as players.
• Quick fix where shop creeps were not being checked correctly to see if it was guarded or not.
• Fixed an issue where when hero was at the home base it would cause AMAI to partly stop retreating.
• Fixed some minor issues with build logic and calculating accurate resources available.
• Fixed an issue where harassment units got stuck going backwards and forwards.
• (Installer) Fix so installer can hopefully run again on windows 7/8 as per modern war3 supported stack.
• (Classic) Goblin alchemist not learning abilities.

 

[goodgameru]

Anyone else noticed the AMAI AI not expanding? Happening with version 3.3.4 and even with 3.3.5.
This happened in maps I edited in the world editor, in which I put the "melee latest patch" in the Scenario options, but I've always done this before and never had any problems, so I don't think that's it.
Cheers

 

[Drukhari]

Anyone else noticed the AMAI AI not expanding? Happening with version 3.3.4 and even with 3.3.5.
This happened in maps I edited in the world editor, in which I put the "melee latest patch" in the Scenario options, but I've always done this before and never had any problems, so I don't think that's it.
Cheers

For me they expand in FFA, 1v1 and 2v2 in both versions. Enemy NELF expanded fairly quickly with lots of archers and fast T2. My UD AMAI teammate however, had a level 1 DK stuck in the base doing nothing, no Teching up, and not using resources. It almost had like 2k gold before he decided to make 2 ghouls and build a ziggurat and finally start creeping. Eventually doing a late halls of the dead tech. Not sure what caused the AI to behave like that. Maybe it's what Strategy Master meant with personalities but it looked more like a AI having a error/bug stroke than a personality lol. I hope you can fix the not expanding issue by doing a clean install?

3.3.5 Released

Thanks for still supporting AMAI, always fun to play a 12 player FFA game

 

[Strategy Master]

@goodgameru : AI's seem to be expanding on REFORGED scripts, which game version you playing on with which AMAI scripts (TFT, ROC, Reforged)? Can you reproduce on standard maps or is it only occuring in custom maps?

 

[Strategy Master]

@Drukhari : Found the undead issue, one of the strategies has a typo which meant the hero isn't being scheduled to build if it picks that, and that will block building anything else for a few minutes.

 

[Strategy Master]

3.3.5a released with emergency fixes

Changed​

• If AI is not strong enough to creep an expansion it won't save resources and instead use them to buy more units.

Fixed​

• Fixed an issue where the undead meat fiend strategy hero wasn't built first which blocked anything from building for the first minute.
• Fixed an issue where AI would expand less consistently because it decided it wanted to expand to an existing expansion.
• Disabled elf building farms on the front line as it too often causes blockages until we can work out a solution.

 

[Youkohieama]

I've noticed that the AI won't pick upgrades for their units, leaving them all 0/0. Is this a strategy thing on their part where sometimes they will get upgrades?

 

[Strategy Master]

I've noticed that the AI won't pick upgrades for their units, leaving them all 0/0. Is this a strategy thing on their part where sometimes they will get upgrades?

most upgrades occur as a backup effect based on number of units but its lowish priority so strategy is more important. But alot of the strategies do not include the upgrades.

 

[Drukhari]

Unfortunately NELF AI blocking itself in a 1v1 map. Main hero & army running back and forth as it tries to move KotG.

 

[gartoll]

400 maps added in all 3 versions (amai vs amai, amai vs blizz, blizz vs blizz) for those who dont want to install everything manually. .zip file is 750mb due to having a total of 1200 maps though https://drive.google.com/file/d/1J4kvgOpD0jONUG3o4oRDItZz5ARechre/view?usp=drive_link


Changes should be in a .txt placed inside each file. If link doesnt work, I will give permission and fix it later

 

[Youkohieama]

400 maps added in all 3 versions (amai vs amai, amai vs blizz, blizz vs blizz) for those who dont want to install everything manually. .zip file is 750mb due to having a total of 1200 maps though amai jul 24.zip


Changes should be in a .txt placed inside each file. If link doesnt work, I will give permission and fix it later

Could you elaborate what the amai vs blizz, blizz vs blizz means? Is that a mixed ai with some using default blizz and some using amai?

 

[gartoll]

Could you elaborate what the amai vs blizz, blizz vs blizz means? Is that a mixed ai with some using default blizz and some using amai?

amai vs amai has amai in all slots

amai vs blizz means that odd teams (team 1,3,5 etc) are AMAI bots while odd ones (teams 2,4,6...) are blizz bots

blizz vs blizz means that all slots are blizz slots. Many maps are not in the game by themselves because blizzard never considered them significant enough. So all of the maps in the map pool were added in a 3rd file in case you want to play only with good old blizz ai

 

[gartoll]

Hello, how to change to strategies after number 9? As you can see from the screenshot below, it only allows you 10 out of the 15 (iirc) that AMAI has. This is 1.26 wc3 with the oldest AMAI version here but I suspect the problem persists in other versions as well

 

[Kazakh]

400 maps added in all 3 versions (amai vs amai, amai vs blizz, blizz vs blizz) for those who dont want to install everything manually. .zip file is 750mb due to having a total of 1200 maps though amai jul 24.zip


Changes should be in a .txt placed inside each file. If link doesnt work, I will give permission and fix it later

Is this the latest version?

 

[gartoll]

Is this the latest version?

Ye that's why I named it Jul 24

I only update when AMAI gets updated fyi

 

[Strategy Master]

Hello, how to change to strategies after number 9? As you can see from the screenshot below, it only allows you 10 out of the 15 (iirc) that AMAI has. This is 1.26 wc3 with the oldest AMAI version here but I suspect the problem persists in other versions as wellView attachment 482132

This is paged and i believe is now the strategy name rather than numbers in the latest versions.

 

[gartoll]

This is paged and i believe is now the strategy name rather than numbers in the latest versions.

I know but some people only have classic 1.26 warcraft instead of Reforged and its a problem for them

 

[Mint Blancmanche]

I know but some people only have classic 1.26 warcraft instead of Reforged and its a problem for them

fuck people playing older versions xD

 

[YouMoMCallME]

fuck people playing older versions xD

I think it's everyone's choice which version to play . Some people like Classic and some play Reforged...

 

[Strategy Master]

I think it's everyone's choice which version to play . Some people like Classic and some play Reforged...

The latest version of AMAI supports all war3 clients regardless as long as you install the right package, only reason to use the very old AMAI versions is personal preference.