A Mysterious Forest

[twojstaryjakcie]

The map is very lacking, but you can change that!
- make units drop items instead of having them lying around (double-click on the unit you want to drop items in editor, a window will pop up; there, click on Items Dropped and select either Use Item Table from Map or just Use Custom Item Table; after that you click Edit Map Item Table, Add Item Table and New Set; now, you click on the Item Set, click New Item and select the item you want the unit to drop <you can also use the Random option which will make the unit drop a random item from a given category of items>) and for the love of God, make them something else than Tomes only!
- the map need more terrain variation - plain grass is boring in the long run and a stone rectangle path is also displeasing aesthetically
- change the terrain's height; a flat map looks very lazy
- maybe add some doodads like shrubs and flowers to make the map look nicer
- consider getting rid of the portals since their name gets in a way or make them untargetable so that the floating won't be an annoyance
- use the ramp from Terrain Palette instead of the Stone Ramp Doodad - it would allow for much smoother movement of units (I attached a picture showing how tedious it is to move through the current ramp)

- make MORE TREES please (closer to the base and also covering the map bounds; the game looks much better when the tress are blocking you from the map's edge)
- consider adding a tavern or two somewhere, since neutral heroes are cool and this is a Frozen Throne map

 

[Soap Mactavish]

Thank you for that information twojstaryjakcie. Actually it was my first time using the World Editor so im gonna improve and update it

 

[deepstrasz]

This map is absolutely in basic condition from flat terrain to little tile and doodad variation, to things like items on the ground near neutral hostile units.

SubstandArt.

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[WolfFarkas]

Hello there, I saw your map, It is interesting what you are trying to create.

I have a sugestion for your mapping skills, try to mix the tiles, rise and low the terrain to create a more complex enviroment that can be more atractive (the terrain all green can be monotone) (yellow mark).
I sugest you to download and study maps or read tutorials to improve your skills with the editor. It is nice to see that you are interested in mapping with WC3 editor. Study other maps and practice will improve yours skills. Have good luck and keep mapping.

 

[Soap Mactavish]

Thank you for your suggestions.

 

[Soap Mactavish]

For those who have downloaded it please tell me if there are bugs. If there I will update it again and I will insert a custom sound.

 

[twojstaryjakcie]

Here's some feedback in form of edited screenshots; Also, I think you'll have to update your melee Frozen Throne files to the newest version, since many items in shops are missing, as well as some heroes in tavern, but I don't remember how to do that, however I'm sure someone will know. @deepstrasz , @Rufus or @Paillan maybe?

Good job on the changes, but there's still a lot to do.
1. The edges on the map still don't have trees and for me, it doesn't look too good.

2. Some items the creeps drop are incredibly weak (all the +1 stat items like Maul) and should be replaced with regular melee items (Claws of Attack, Gloves of Haste, Circlet of Nobility and so on)

3. Some creep camps still don't drop any items

4. You can't get to a gold mine in the middle or get a hero in tavern without having to fight two Granite Golems; try reducing their Acquisition Range from 500 <normal> to 200 <creep> (double click on the Golems in World Editor)

5. Some spaces are too tight and clunky due to too much doodads (the Gnoll Overseer camps)

 

[twojstaryjakcie]

I found how to fix missing hero units in Tavern - click Scenario -> Map Options -> go to Game Data Set -> set it to Melee (Latest Patch)

 

[deepstrasz]

Set the map to 4 players not 1 but that still can be played in 4.
Please avoid uploading another version in a different thread and use the green Edit/Update button at the bottom of the main post and replace the map there.

1. Terrain is utterly flat with little doodad and tile variation.
2. Some creep camps are too near each other.
3. Mines where player start locations are have no guardians when players are absent.
+many other things already mentioned above my post.

This map is just too simple for the melee genre.
Please have a closer look at the original Warcraft III maps.
This will also help you:
Competitive Melee Map
How to create Melee Maps
A Beginner's Guide to Map Making

Awaiting Update.

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[WolfFarkas]

I recommend you to do a 1vs1 map, is more easy, doing a 4 player melee map in 96x96 it can be hard because you have not that much space.
Many melee mappers do 1vs1 maps and after gaining experience in many maps they go for a 4 player melee maps.
download / study others maps, read tutorials, practice. To make a good map first, you have to learn how to make a good map, is like maths, nobody started knowing everything.