Modeling Contest 23: THEME DECISION

[anarchianbedlam]

A FAIR AND INTERESTING THEME

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So, i've thought about how .... disappointing the themes and eventual results have been in these contests. And so we will be using a slightly new method to our theme-choosing madness.So here's how it's going to go down....

I want you to post here and give me 3 model contest themes that you would like to participate in.

Regardless of the theme, the next modeling contest will be optionally paired, you can have 1 partner if you want. More options, more opportunity, hopefully make for more and better entries.

I will ONLY be counting and considering posts and suggestions from MODELERS and/or PRIOR modeling contest participants. Our last contest, "mimic" was chosen by people who did not even participate in the damn contest they voted for.

You can suggest a theme that has been used before in a contest, you can suggest a theme from >HERE< or you can make up a new theme, whatever you can imagine.

My intention in this new method is to get more and better entries, it doesn't make sense for participants to be stuck with a shitty theme that was chosen by ... people who don't model.

I will post an example below.

A list of suggested entries so far, and their placing. They have now been categorized as to how well they would fit into wc3

These themes fit well within pre-existing wc3 lore and general modding; and would be very useful for a wide variety of maps

Ana

Rada

Dlrn

Dosl

eub

epsi

morb

Prox

Happ

Verm

bob

skra

skar

dion

fing

Mech

Sham

Tier-1 Unit

1

1

2

1

3

Creep Boss

2

3

3

3

2

3 tier building

2

1

1

These themes are broader, and encompass more ideas outside of wc3 lore/modding than they do inside.

Ana

Rada

Dlrn

Dosl

eub

epsi

morb

Prox

Happ

Verm

bob

skra

skar

dion

fing

Mech

Sham

Western

1

1

3

2

3

2

Musical Unit

2

3

1

Vehicle

1

2

1

These themes were not nominated as often as the others, so we are to assume that there is less interest in them.

	Ana	Rada	Dlrn	Dosl	eub	epsi	morb	Prox	Happ	Verm	bob	skra	skar	dion	fing	Mech	Sham
Mage										2
Mounted Unit															3
Unit w/ Attachables				1
Soldier							1	3	3		2
Dragon	3											1
Post-Apocalyptic		3
Insect					2				2			2
Hybrid						1
Virtual						3
Predator										1
angels/demons													3	3
Chimera														1
Steampunk																1
Eastern																2

-UPDATE-

The poll has been culled and narrowed down to the 3 most popular
wc3 related themes and 3 most popular non wc3 related themes.
Please recast your vote for ONE of these remaining six choices

 

[anarchianbedlam]

I would like a theme like this
1. Western
2. musical unit
3. Dragons

>insert random comments about theme blah blah blah, i like the theme that "so-and-so" said<

 

[Radagast]

1. Western
2. Cowboys and Indians
3. Apocalyptic

 

[Deolrin]

I would like to participate in:
1. Tier 1 Unit.
2. Creep Boss.
3. Musical Unit.

Tier 1 unit because it's simple, nice, broad and open. There's a lot of possibilities, and you don't have to overcomplicate anything. So that probably means no particle spam or morph animations or giant fucking tanks, which might or might not be a good relief from the previous contests.

Creep Boss because I like Warcraft 3 races, and I like creeps, and again - It's very open. You can do a lot of stuff.

Musical Unit because I've had some ideas for this theme a while ago.

 

[eubz]

Maybe:
1. vehicle
2. insect; and
3. creep boss
Preferably I would choose vehicle. It should be modern. Should not use custom textures, only in-game. That if everyone considers this.

 

[diosilva16]

a customizable model: a base model that has either several alternative animations, or a set of attachment models that fit with it

 

[Deolrin]

a customizable model: a base model that has either several alternative animations, or a set of attachment models that fit with it

So, essentially, like this?

Or more like this?

Or do both examples work?
And plus, of course, the whole "attachment models" things.

I think I like your idea a lot. I may change some stuff in my rankings for it. :3

 

[epsilon]

1.- hybrid races
2.- 3 tier buildings
3.- virtual units

 

[M0rbid]

1. Pyra's Soldierboys
2. Vehicular Manslaughter
3. Western

Of course these are the best suggestions... thank you.

 

[PROXY]

1. Vehicular Manslaughter
2. Western
3. Pyra's Soliderboys

1. Pyra's Soldierboys
2. Vehicular Manslaughter
3. Western

 

[diosilva16]

So, essentially, like this?

Or more like this?

Or do both examples work?
And plus, of course, the whole "attachment models" things.

I think I like your idea a lot. I may change some stuff in my rankings for it. :3

those are tiered units, they upgrade to each other linearly, i was more thinking along the lines of having alternate upgrades that were somewhat mutually exclusive, like a peon that could upgrade to a ranged, melee or magical militia, or a light weight vehicle that could upgrade to heavy artillery, heavilly armored or troop transporting. the key word here is or

 

[HappyCockroach]

musical unit
insect
pyra's soldierboys


and i dont think the mimic theme and chess theme were fails. they were rather cool contests with a good amount of entries... the winners made good models... why always saying OMG FACEPALM THAT CONTEST REALLY SUCKED ... of course it would be nice if we made a contest in which TDR, jigrael, Callahan, and all other skilled modellers around the hive did something and summed up a good amount of pro entries, but the times have changed... we should get over it and keep hosting interesting themes

 

[diosilva16]

i enjoyed the mimic theme, and i rather resent all the great modelers who missed it. of course they're all forgiven because i probably wouldn't have won if all the greats had participated

 

[Direfury]

Predators
Powerful Mages
Under-appreciated races (Furbolg, Murloc, etc.)

 

[anarchianbedlam]

So i made a list of the suggested themes and marked their placements. Ill leave the suggestions open another day but i eventually want to start culling the less desirable themes and have everyone recast their vote on a smaller selection.

Also I hope that the people posting here actually intend to at least try to participate in this contest.

 

[Mr. Bob]

1. 3 tier building
2. Soldier
3. Western

 

[skrab]

1. Dragons
2. Insect
3. Creep Boss

 

[HappyCockroach]

oh. I support 3-tier buildings as well.

 

[RED BARON]

Something interesting with books/doodads in general where its not just a doodad.

 

[Tarrasque]

Tier-1-Unit
Creep Boss
Angels and Demons

 

[shamanyouranus]

+1 to 3-tier buildings.

 

[Dionesiist]

-Chimaeras
-Tier 1 Units
-Angels and Demons

 

[Fingolfin]

Did anyone say western?!

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Quite frankly, i think we should choose a theme that could actually produce something USEFUL, so far we have had lots of awesome superunits that fit into.. no existing concept whatsoever.

My list would be:

1. Tier 1 unit
2. Western
3. Mounted unit

 

[Mechanical Man]

1. Steampunk
2. Eastern
3. Tier-1 unit

 

[anarchianbedlam]

The list has been updated. Consider how well each theme fits for wc3 and consider the other options that your fellow modelers have suggested.

 

[sonofjay]

Here is my list, for me this things are the most unique things to model right now, and very useful.
1. High-quality modern doodads
2. High-quality with animation trees and other environment models.(Don't tell me that Eubz already have one because they are still not that many.)
3. High-quality Clothes? (clothes not armor)



We don't really need those hardcore model right now because we have plenty of it at THW

 

[anarchianbedlam]

Thank you for your interest in our contest sonofjay, I hope you understand as we completely ignore your... errr, "high-quality" suggestions and decide on a theme that actual modelers would enjoy participating in

 

[diosilva16]

it is a contest, though. it's all about showing off

 

[anarchianbedlam]

Everyone please vote in the new poll for your favorite theme. I made the poll public, so only the votes of the people who participated or are likely to participate will be counted at the end.

I have given you the 6 most popular nominated themes, 3 wc3 related and 3 non-wc3 related.

 

[anarchianbedlam]

Modeling Contest 23: THEME DECISION -new poll

minor update to the poll. soldier has been removed in place of 3-tier building.
None of you are going to animate a soldier for the contest and spehs mahreen animations are no.

 

[shamanyouranus]

I voted for

 

[Wandering Soul]

Here's my 3 choice of theme;

1) Steampunk
Basically making a unit/hero/etc which fits into an era which steam technology and magic co-exist.
Usually the setting for such theme is somewhat similar to Victorian era.

2) Western
Make a unit/hero/etc which fits into an era of the Wild West where cowboys roam the land.

3) Insectoid
Make a unit/hero that resembles a humanoid insect.
NOTE : If this theme does goes up, I hope model-makers will not make their model nearly identical to a Nerubian.

 

[diosilva16]

there's a poll now. we're no longer suggesting themes, we're voting for one now

 

[Deolrin]

Voted for tier 1 unit, for reasons stated by Fingolfin and myself earlier.

 

[M0rbid]

I choose 3-Tier- Building, basically because it's the only not directly wc3-related theme that has a chance of winning.
But for the future: I would prefer if wc3-stlye would not at all be a thing that needs to be considered when choosing a theme.

 

[eubz]

I am thinking of voting whether a 3-tire building or a vehicle. Can't decide yet. Both are actually good theme for the next modeling contest.

 

[Deolrin]

I choose 3-Tier- Building, basically because it's the only not directly wc3-related theme that has a chance of winning.

Srsly? Because when I think of 3-tier building, I think of Town Halls.

 

[NhazUl]

Okay, though I didn't participate properly in any contest, I got a visitor message to suggest a theme. So... I don't know why so many people like the western theme, personally I'd hate it. The 3-tier building would be my choice, it has quite interesting possibilities. If it wins, I'll join.

 

[Radagast]

How can you hate Western? I can just see all the cowboys, trains, Coaches, indians, horses, saloons, GATLING GUN!.

and what is a 3rd tier building?

 

[Wandering Soul]

It's 3-Tier Building...
It means a structure which can be upgraded twice...
Example : Racial Town Hall.

However, A Scout Tower can also be considered a 3-Tier/4-Teir Building since it can also upgrade (to 3 type of structures in this case)...

 

[M0rbid]

Srsly? Because when I think of 3-tier building, I think of Town Halls.

It CAN but it does not necessarily NEED to be wc3 related. And that's one huge NEED I guess.

 

[anarchianbedlam]

I choose 3-Tier- Building, basically because it's the only not directly wc3-related theme that has a chance of winning.
But for the future: I would prefer if wc3-stlye would not at all be a thing that needs to be considered when choosing a theme.

thats why i posted 3 themes that were definitely wc3/wc3modding related, and 3 that were not very wc3 related. For a mixed batch

 

[PROXY]

I just wanted to throw in, that a tier 3 building means a lot of work, meaning you need to model 3 times as much as normally, and the whole animations for buildings are really shitty to make, so it MIGHT, only MIGHT bring us again to the point when there are only 1 or 2 entries.

 

[Deolrin]

PROXY, not really, all you have to do is model one small model, and then add to it each time. Of course, that's not how Blizzard did it, but I'd guess that most people won't make 3 entirely new models.

 

[anarchianbedlam]

I just wanted to throw in, that a tier 3 building means a lot of work, meaning you need to model 3 times as much as normally, and the whole animations for buildings are really shitty to make, so it MIGHT, only MIGHT bring us again to the point when there are only 1 or 2 entries.

this man has never seen a model by mr.bob

 

[Mechanical Man]

Then let's hope something be done. Buildings, especially those with 3 levels

Srsly? Because when I think of 3-tier building, I think of Town Halls.

Godfall campaign has almost all buildings (player faction) with 3 tiers.

 

[Mr. Bob]

I just wanted to throw in, that a tier 3 building means a lot of work, meaning you need to model 3 times as much as normally, and the whole animations for buildings are really shitty to make, so it MIGHT, only MIGHT bring us again to the point when there are only 1 or 2 entries.

THAT'S RICH.
The only other option that requires LESS precision, animation work, general anatomical knowledge, and just basic skill, is vehicles.
FUCKING VEHICLES.

 

[Direfury]

Not much of a contest if the concept is easy for most everybody.

 

[anarchianbedlam]

a good theme is challenging to those with experience and skill, but still accessible to those without.

 

[Radagast]

Fucking buildings.... who needs em?
Everybody wants/needs/craves Western Stuff... Those who want to make a 3rd tier building can make an Upgradeable Sheriffs department or Saloon