Worms Project

Luthion · Apr 17, 2008

I'm back from dinner and you should make the columns tomorrow, about darkhunter ill check if i can find a tutorial like that
Edit: http://world-editor-tutorials.thehelper.net/cat_usersubmit.php?view=27242 i just typed leak tutorial in google lol xd

Velmarshal · Apr 17, 2008

Ive just got back from school. You gotta see this:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R43WgtXcfKI
For the icons,ok you'll have them tomorow.
EDIT: My bad I've made them already.

Lord-T-Rex · Apr 17, 2008

Hawk...
I have to say that you are a really nice leader!
You inform constantly about what the members have to do.
I like this way! I think not at least because of this the project is growing fast!
Thank you for this!

I'll work on the hat and headband tomorrow!

UchihaSasuke.gr · Apr 17, 2008

I don't think you should post the map in little parts.Just give it via PM to the guy you need and he will give it back this way.

HappyTauren · Apr 17, 2008

I believe I could do something for fun, but I can't brainstorm, so just gief me pix pl0x

Velmarshal · Apr 17, 2008

The icons will be ready in a min.
EDIT: Here they are:View attachment 27044
Did as you asked one disabled for all.
Bazooka worm, Shotgun Worm, Sniper Worm, Melee Worm, Hero Worm.

Hawk07 · Apr 18, 2008

MULTIBOARD SYSTEM 100% MADE - moving on!

Ok, thx for the icons! The map will be sent via forum public upload for the team and I hope we will have no problems! About your tasks, I tell you whenever I find some tasks for ye guys. I see them as we progress! Tasks will be announced in posts marked with

!

EDIT: Multiboard changed, now the columns are ok and the player names appear. I will make a final change to show the titles of the columns in golden letters and send!
EDIT 2: The titles of the multiboard (name, socre, kills, deaths) have been colored to look better. Player names are colored in the init trigger of the multiboard and some more things have been fixed. Uploading to show it!

Lord-T-Rex · Apr 18, 2008

very nice terraining and styling!!!
maybe u could combine some styles to one style like crazy hat and cigar... but only maybe

Hawk07 · Apr 18, 2008

I know but that will be in later versions after v1.00 where we will work on all the details.

CHANGE:
Skills are not bought in the beginning. There will be skills that will be bought during the game and take slot 1,2,3 or 4 but they will be changeable so that players can choose. This means no Hero Skills, no leveling up skills. But this means that players will be able to change their skills during the game. Skills wont be class-based as well.

EDIT: I am making the first skills for slot 1. When all 12 of them are done I will send the map!

EDIT 2: Well I changed my mind again, abilites will be chosen in the beginning sorry for the confusion guys, but there will be only level 1 abilities. When a Hero reaches level 5 slot 1 and 2 abilities will be changeable and slot 3 ability which is passive will be leveling up. The ultimate abilities will change after level 10!

EDIT 3: I made 2 skills till now: Cluck! (summon kamikaze chicken) and Curse of Mother Nature (poison). Skills are very powerful from the beginning of the game, so that's why they dont level up but just improve if players have enough gold (about 5k gold in total) to change them at level 5. This is one of the things that will mkae this map different from most of the others!

NOTE: I am tired for now. I will start working again in 2-3 hours. I am gonna play some World of Warcraft for a while and get some ideas. Anyway you guys keep up with the models and soon we are gonna work the map more. Tomorrow and the day after I am gonna be online about 10 hours a day or more so we will have plenty of time to work. Today I will log out much later than other days cause my mom lets me stay on computer some more. So cya in a couple of hours!

Lord-T-Rex · Apr 18, 2008

headband ready...

Hawk07 · Apr 18, 2008

Got it! I am still afk!

HappyTauren · Apr 18, 2008

I don't want to be an ass, but that head band could:
use two segments less at the cicle
that part which is holding a rope... the squarish one, could be a simple square, with 4 faces you dont see deleted (the ones that touches the head, and two bottom ones)
ropes are good
If you do this, the model will have 26 triangles instead of 80.

Hawk07 · Apr 18, 2008

I am still afk and I think I cant work for much more today. Maybe later I will be albe to cause I have some serious things to do now

ANNOUNCEMENT:
Dear team, I wanna inform you of a message I got today:

panther-anthro said:
Dear Hawk07, I was wondering if you would be interested in getting a hosted project board on our forum for your map about Worms. I thought it was rather high quality, and you guys deserve a actual board! Not just a topic.

website: http://www.gamerisle.org

or contact me on msn: [email protected]

So you guys wanna get this project hosted there? And here maybe? And I also inform you of one idea I got recently: making a blog and whole forum for this map when it is complete like DotA has! But remembered we dont compare purselves with DotA. We compare it with what we imagined for this map!

panther-anthro · Apr 18, 2008

IT sounds great, but I was wondering what the exact number of weapons you were going to put in was? Also, why did you use lordaeron summer tile, when ashenvale is so much better?

Luthion · Apr 18, 2008

I'm back what is my task, oh i noticed the map gonna try it out!
Dude you want me to make a system in which players can change their name? they type -name <name> and the name becomes that!thats actually easy to do but i need your permission!

Velmarshal · Apr 18, 2008

Well for the hosting on the gamerilse, Why not? More we advertise, more people will see our map.
EDIT:Tomorow I cant do anything. I'm going on a fieldtrip with my school.
RE-EDIT: Here are 3 soundsets I found.
View attachment 27090

Hawk07 · Apr 18, 2008

Velm, its ok.
The terrain I used was Lordaeron cause it has too much space and can have twice the tiles Ashenvale can use.
Luthion I will tell you later what we need. No player name change system, cause some people who like banning others wont like it!
I was thinking of some item classification system:
I need items for Hero level 5,10,15,20,25.
Make a system with which people of the needed level and only will be able to use the items and carry them and if their level is lower the items will be automatically sold. I want you to use item levels for this and not item classifications. Start!

panther-anthro · Apr 18, 2008

Hawk07 said:
Velm, its ok.
The terrain I used was Lordaeron cause it has too much space and can have twice the tiles Ashenvale can use.
Luthion I will tell you later what we need. No player name change system, cause some people who like banning others wont like it!
I was thinking of some item classification system:
I need items for Hero level 5,10,15,20,25.
Make a system with which people of the needed level and only will be able to use the items and carry them and if their level is lower the items will be automatically sold. I want you to use item levels for this and not item classifications. Start!

Just use WEU, and you can have more tiles then that, or just use WEU to set the extra tiles, and convert it using WEU to ashenvale. That way you get 23 tileslots.

Velmarshal · Apr 18, 2008

I did 3 attack icons:
melee,bullet,bazooka
View attachment 27094

Hawk07 · Apr 18, 2008

Well, ok I knew that but I prefer Lordaeron Summer and basically I think it fits the theme much more and that there are more doodads fitting Lordaeron than Ashenvale. And one last thing: I want it to be completely different from DotA!

Dark Hunter1357 · Apr 18, 2008

Lets think about hosting, after the beta release. BTW: sorry, but i will start the model tomoral, as i have a head pain (headache)

Velmarshal · Apr 18, 2008

Dark Hunter1357 said:
Lets think about hosting, after the beta release. BTW: sorry, but i will start the model tomoral, as i have a head pain (headache)

Eh I have that 24/7.
EDIT: Thats why I got this helmet.

Hawk07 · Apr 18, 2008

Ok, Hunter we are working on other things. These models are the final touches for the Alpha Release. We have one week guys!

Velmarshal · Apr 18, 2008

A week till? ?

Hawk07 · Apr 18, 2008

Till Alpha Test. I am going for dinner and then I am gonna work some more! Cya in 20 mins!

Luthion · Apr 18, 2008

I just finished dinner , what do i have to do?

Hawk07 · Apr 18, 2008

Check previous posts. I said items for levels....

AFK 15 MINS

Velmarshal · Apr 18, 2008

Hey did you see the clip on some of the previous pages i sent.
Man its pure gold.

Luthion · Apr 18, 2008

Umm got it, but ill make it so it will display a message and drop the item, selling the item is unfair since other team members may want to get it and if you by accident click an item you can't use and it sells to a shop, thats really unfair!

Velmarshal · Apr 18, 2008

Tough life I say.

Luthion · Apr 18, 2008

Done.

I think it's done, check it out, if there are bugs or it doesn't work tell me and i'll fix it, i did NOT test it!

Velmarshal · Apr 18, 2008

I was thinking. Maybe we should try making the UT mod in wc3.After we finish worms.
Or dota like starwars, battle for the middle earth, WW2.
Another tought. T-Rex could you remember when you placed first poly of your worm model. All this started from it.
Heres my favourite soundtrack:

Hawk07 · Apr 18, 2008

Luthion, I meant to sell the item for full value and display the text as well! I mean someone buys an item for level 5 and he is level 2 then he sees the message and gets back all the gold!

EDIT: I am gonna check it right now and tell you what I think of it!

NOTE: This is the 434th post I write and the 434th post of the thread! Wow!

EDIT 2: Luthion that's a work of a genious but i want to tell you that there are only 8 item levels. So I will change the constants to support up to 25!

Luthion · Apr 18, 2008

thats a coincidence!, now i made that for when a hero catches an item! i misunderstood, if its that what you meant ill have to remake!
Umm thats a pretty simple trigger

, anyways if what you meant was that ill have to remake, unless you think like i made is ok!
edit 2: Do not change the constants now, ill change the trigger and reupload the map, so wait a little and then you change the constants on the new map!
edit3: omg i can't find the way to know how much the item cost!seems like the only way is making the item disapear and the player loses the money, otherwise we can make a trigger for each item or a loop for each item, loads of work and can only be done when map finished!

Hawk07 · Apr 18, 2008

Ok, that's what I meant but please change the constant for max item level to 25 so that all things are ok!

Velmarshal · Apr 18, 2008

Any work for me?

Dark Hunter1357 · Apr 18, 2008

Hawk07
is it possible to do that, whit the items? I never saw in the gameplay constants item level.

Hawk07 · Apr 18, 2008

Maybe WEU can if WE cant. Velm good sounds but not useful cause we lack space. We may add some for the part of killing worms.
Velm find me easter eggs for skills, items etc. E.G. Spiny Kick of Chuck Norris as an ultimate skill, Holy Diver as a special creep (a song by Dio), The number of the beast as a skill which will create a 666 over the target and damage - Iron Maiden inspired. Sounds rather funny and stupid, but it is essential!

Luthion · Apr 18, 2008

Umm check my last post to see what i discovered, if you find a way to discover how much an item cost tell me!

Velmarshal · Apr 18, 2008

Dark Hunter1357 said:
Hawk07
is it possible to do that, whit the items? I never saw in the gameplay constants item level.

It could be done with sorting the items in diferent classes.
Like misc(0lvl)
permanent(5lvl)
charged(10lvl)
and then when you do all of it, make triggers.
look at the diablo-dks rpg sistem

EDIT: Easter eggs? Ok just a min.

Here they are:
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models.php?id=rsyehp&prev=page=4&t=3&r=20&d=list
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models.php?id=7pdsag&prev=page=4&t=3&r=20&d=list
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models.php?id=3z0r60&prev=page=4&t=3&r=20&d=list
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models.php?id=9t4fjf&prev=page=4&t=3&r=20&d=list

Hawk07 · Apr 18, 2008

Luthion well, this will need some variable probably or some jass line script. Sec for me to check!

Velm I know that but I wanna use some classifications for other things. Sounds better though. We will do this the way you say if we cant any other way! Focus on what I said earlier!

Luthion the only way is using some variable like custom value of item or life of item to be equal with its value. But this is not that good, anyway make it this way but when all items are done. We will make an init setting custom value of all items and when the hero cant use th item will be destroyed and the owner of the hero will get gold equal to the custom value of the item which will be its total cost. Good?

Luthion · Apr 18, 2008

Umm is there a way to check how much an item cost without making a loop for each item?I'm gonna check with jass, but i doubt it -.-

Hawk07 · Apr 18, 2008

I said about custom value or life!

Dark Hunter1357 · Apr 18, 2008

Or maybe make the item hp equal to the cost, and in the trigger make the added gold to be equal to the hp of the item

EDIT: Hawk07 said the same, sorry for repeating

Luthion · Apr 18, 2008

I think that would be best solution =) DArkHunter

Hawk07 · Apr 18, 2008

Exactly, Hunter got it already! Nice

)) Luthion, do u understand what we mean or??? And no Items Init yet. I will make the Init item by item while I make them. Make the system fast so that I can make the skills for slot 1 in the next hour before I go to bed!

EDIT: Ok, but the items must be invulnerable in that case right? Otherwise they can take damage and have problems with the trigger, so better custom value or hp and hope...?

Luthion · Apr 18, 2008

Custom value=impossible(i wont explain why, im just saying it is, if you want an explanation on why ask me)
Hp=better, if item has been damaged it will be worth less (obvious xD)

Velmarshal · Apr 18, 2008

OMG. Find the allowed targets part of the object editor.
Uncheck the Items. I cant beleive you missed that.

Luthion · Apr 18, 2008

Leave it has it his, so if you want to decrease your opponents gain on selling item you just damage it!Anyways the item can't die so its not a problem for it to disapear!

Hawk07 · Apr 18, 2008

Well, I know that but still we need this function in case people want to destroy somethgin cause crappy team and dont wanna give it so...
Anyway, Luthion you are good, you said if it loses HP it is worth less, funny but realistic. We stay on that. And make the system as Velm suggested using classifications, except from misc.
Use purchasable for level 5, permanent for level 10 and artifact for level 15 all other are available at any level ok?

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