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WoW guild pulls a Phred Phelps

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Durr you gave them credits bc your in that GUILD YOURSELF well at least you were!!! :p By the Way don't make the post worser than it already is. Peeps think this post is what humorous? Not by some who believes that it's basically a moment of serenity and tranquility. Speaking of which the guild "serenity Now" should be renamed "we kill Serenity" Seriously. Quote that I could wear cloth and still PWN others LOL not the point here. Don't make it humorous than it already is for others out there certainly I would agree it's completely disrupting to think so already. :( :( :x :x :x :x
 
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BTW Caringness and Careful mean the same if used the correct way. Im not wrong there. Real Life and Games have one thing in common to you who thinks "It's JUST A GAME DAMN IT, IT'S NOT REAL LIFE" it's all interaction with an environment. DOn't go and tell me that you don't interact in your environment because you're in your so called realistic life. DURR it's all about how we interact with others or somethings in our lives whether if it's Realistic or fantasy. To those who want to act immature posting dumb@$$ Bull$HiT remarks like I congradualate the dumb @$$ clan, why don't you check how it is when you have a close buddy from either sex that dies from the same situation. Har HAr you just don't go "oooooo my buddy died so we are just gonna do crap." You'd Do the same too am I right or if those immature enough with their girlfriends arguing at them or on the verge of breaking up think I'm wrong? You want to do the best in memorial to a fallen in this case a buddy dying from a source and to honor him/her with a last game memorial. This is international bc sure I maybe from here but think of others posting are from other countries as well. Sigh geeez does it make it seem the mature want to slap some sense to the immature I think so. IT"S BASED UPON INTERACTION AND HOW WE INTERACT IN LIFE AS MUCH AS WE INTERACT IN THE GAME!!!!!!!!!!! :evil: :evil: :evil: :x :x :x :evil: :evil: :evil:
 
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Wow this post I heard was Spicy and It is....Let's say hmmmmm How about a nice game called Battlegrounds at either Warsong, Arathi, or Alterac Valley with tranffered server chars. This will settle against those who are with the post and those who are against the post. Im hosting the BG in WOW Who's WITH ME!!!!!????? And for those who don't have World of Warcraft GET IT GOD DAMN IT!!!!!! IT"S ONLY LIKE $35 for it and $30 for the game card not unless you want the charge to go at your credit card. :twisted: :evil:
 
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james1654 said:
LOL, watched the movie at least 8 times now. I crack up every time! :lol:

I was crying of loaughter when i read the topic from the news page. I sighned up to join serenity now, that was freaking hilarious. I was absoloutly crying my eyes out with laughter.

They had an exelent choice of music, funny comments, cool quotes. I think that alshzer or whatever hes name is - is a legend. That was brilliantly planned, and they managed to destroy the event even though outnumbered 2-1 . Simply heroic.

HEROIC?!?!!? what in hell was heroic about that!?!? they all had NO weapons, NO armor. Tuexdios and dresses dont count. no sh*t they got owned 1-2 i mean come on 2000 people in dresses...vs 1000 in battle armor and weapons...wonder whons gonna win...

Amin Delotha Lle
 

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K, I'm just about done with this topic because it's pointless argueing with particular people who try to live their life through a good vs. bad scenario. If you don't understand that, sorry.

BTW Caringness and Careful mean the same if used the correct way.

No, they don't.

Im not wrong there.

You are wrong.

Real Life and Games have one thing in common to you who thinks "It's JUST A GAME DAMN IT, IT'S NOT REAL LIFE" it's all interaction with an environment.

Real life interaction doesn't involve paying $10 a month.

DOn't go and tell me that you don't interact in your environment because you're in your so called realistic life.

I went hysterical over this line. My "so called realistic life". You've got to be kidding me.

Har HAr you just don't go "oooooo my buddy died so we are just gonna do crap."

Well I certaintly wouldn't post in the server forums that I was hosting a ceremony in a PVP area and inviting the alliance to join in. But I mean really what do you care? Have they made a new policy where gamers have to respect dead gamers?

You'd Do the same too am I right or if those immature enough with their girlfriends arguing at them or on the verge of breaking up think I'm wrong?

K, you are getting way too personal about this, which inevitably affects your judgement. Seeing how you make descisions makes me glad I'm skeptical.

You want to do the best in memorial to a fallen in this case a buddy dying from a source and to honor him/her with a last game memorial.

So you only honor dead people from WoW? I understand now.

Sigh geeez does it make it seem the mature want to slap some sense to the immature I think so.

Likewise, the intelligent want to smack the idiots.

IT"S BASED UPON INTERACTION AND HOW WE INTERACT IN LIFE AS MUCH AS WE INTERACT IN THE GAME!!!!!!!!!!!

If that's what you think, that's what you think. I have an entirely different philosophy on life, but I think for you to understand it would be impossible. Oh and by the way, your caps lock and your faces don't intimidate me the least bit. I too have a caps lock button on my keyboard.
 
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Ki I understand where you are going and I believe that you are making a good point. But two people at least in this channel have crossed the line. Either by being stupid or just by trying to get everyone in this channel pi**ed off.

james1654 Gerald

You are not only stupid but you are also pathetic, you are stupid because you knew that everyone would backlash at you if you commended the guild. It's dumber than going in a rascist protection forum and saying f*** black people. (I AM NOT SAYING THAT!!!!) You are pathetic for commending someone on doing something in my eyes truely horrific.

For everyone who says it is just a game, for some people the game is funner and friendlier than real life. It's an escape from reality world, if you play wow or tft you should agree. And if you treat the game as your special get-away from everything else don't you think your funeral should be respected at your special world?

Note: I agree with Ki that Blizzard cannot take any direct action if they keep their profit advantage stance. I also think that some people are taking things too far. Some of the things you are suggesting are indeed illegal. There is no need for mention of killing when it is not desired. Also, it is not illegal to do some terrible things if they are not considered serious. I consider the situation serious but not serious enough for legal action to be a nessecity.

I pray that the gamer be somewhere safe and maybe that serenity will mature to see their stupidity.
 

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KI Says:
after thousands of people die in months due to disease and fighting in countries located in Africa and Asia
Am I going to cry for them and give them some respect?

the thing is, YOU did not DISrespect those who died...

Real life interaction doesn't involve paying $10 a month

do you wish to stick online on like, msn, waiting for your loved one and do nothing? and stare at the screen? while 10 bucks could be exchanged for passing time faster?

Have they made a new policy where gamers have to respect dead gamers?

they didnt, but they did not state you could disrespect them.


james1654 says:
Simply heroic.

Main Entry: 1he·ro·ic
Pronunciation: hi-'rO-ik also her-'O- or hE-'rO-
Variant(s): also he·ro·ical /-i-k&l/
Function: adjective
exhibiting or marked by courage and daring b : supremely noble or self-sacrificing

disrespecting? you call that noble? self-sacrificing? HA!

its a damned game! IT IS NOT REAL LIFE

yes, it is a damned game. the game itself is not about real life. but, the event itself is. its for a girl, who died in real life. so if you think it is just a game, go play it as a game that does not affect anyone else real life.

It just mocked a stupid ingame idea - and that really was such a dumb idea to hold a stupid virtual memorial.

not everyone knew her real life, not everyone's from the same neighbourhood as her, not everyone is like you. you, will know that things are different. once you lose your loved ones.

may she rest in peace.

-CCK
 

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Okay, this is one of the more valid posts and I'll give you credit for it. You seem to misinterpreting my part of my message though.

the thing is, YOU did not DISrespect those who died...

I understand that what they did was wrong. But I am looking toward the side of the repliers who give comments respecting the dead person. Are they simply countering the disrespect with respect in order to maintain a balance? That's what it seems to me because people wouldn't start respecting the dying people of Africa and Asia. Someone would have to publicly disrespect the dying people of Africa and Asia with a wicked laugh. Then the people would start having respect for those people. I understand the system now. What was the point of this topic? It is more evidence that things push towards a balance.

do you wish to stick online on like, msn, waiting for your loved one and do nothing? and stare at the screen? while 10 bucks could be exchanged for passing time faster?

Hmmm... nope. I was referring to real life as opposed to a computer. But personally, interacting doesn't really apply to me because it isn't something I really desire. I neither love nor hate anyone.

Wisdom I received for today: people will counter an unbalance reguardless of the person to keep the situation/topic at a median. One can make comparisons with this to a multitude of things. I'll leave that to you.
 
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I really don't get this discussion..

At first I was actually shocked about the funeral-crash thing, but watching it for a second time I found it hilareous.

The crashers were just looking for a riot - which is, as childish as it may be, a legit right within a GAME-REALM.

They crashees have no one but themselves to blame for not arming themselves properly while going out organizing some thing which is SURE to draw this kind of attention. They didn't look dressed up fancy to me anyway; they're just polygon characters wrapped in textures. Wtf, if you wanna organize something nonviolent in a game designed for violence, prepare yourself properly either by security or secrecy.
There would have been plenty of ways to protect the memorial from unwanted guests.

Made me think if small kids holding this fake tea-party and then some other kid comes driving over their plastic cups with his bike and all the kids start crying.. Perhaps not a nice thing to do, but wtf, WoW is not about 'playing nice'

Bunch of idiots.
 
I dont think anyone understands

Stuffkikker said:
really don't get this discussion..

At first I was actually shocked about the funeral-crash thing, but watching it for a second time I found it hilareous.

The crashers were just looking for a riot - which is, as childish as it may be, a legit right within a GAME-REALM.

They crashees have no one but themselves to blame for not arming themselves properly while going out organizing some thing which is SURE to draw this kind of attention. They didn't look dressed up fancy to me anyway; they're just polygon characters wrapped in textures. Wtf, if you wanna organize something nonviolent in a game designed for violence, prepare yourself properly either by security or secrecy.
There would have been plenty of ways to protect the memorial from unwanted guests.

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No, but it as a real life person they were trying to say goodbye to.

Correct. It was a public service. It was a memorial service that was crashed out of humor. Those who disagree still...once more...*(^.^*)

LOL, watched the movie at least 8 times now. I crack up every time!

I was crying of loaughter when i read the topic from the news page. I sighned up to join serenity now, that was freaking hilarious. I was absoloutly crying my eyes out with laughter.

James, ima get a gun out and shoot you before you can find a stolen map. They crashed a public service...and no, it was not funny. Its like saying your dad died, and all of a sudden teens came in with ak-47s and gunned everyone down! HAHAHAH THATS SO FUNNY! James your house is on fire! HAHAHAH THATS SO FUNNY! Oh no theres a mass murdur looking at you on the street! HAHAHAH THATS SO FU-*Ugh*

See where im getting?

Its like laughing at someone elses pain. To you its funny. To everyone else, it makes you public enemy #1 in thier eyes. Its just cruel, and will round an angry mob that wants nothing more than your head.

funny comments, cool quotes. I think that alshzer or whatever hes name is - is a legend.

Read above. Is over swearing really that funny? Is this really that cool of quotes? Am I surrounded by a bunch of immature idiots (Im not talking about you that are saying that was just gay and was not funny in anyway, im talking about the people who think someone else dying is just to funny to flush out of ones head)?

Dont go cussing me or hating me, but i just expressed my own opinions. VGsatomi, i dont want to have you get annoyed at me for this. I like you, please dont hate me for loving this movie.

I understand that, but the person died in real life. Im not repeating myself: Dying is a serious matter in real life. several people die every few seconds, but it doesnt matter. my point: You though it was funny that they did not a raid Vg, but a slaugther to mourners of one of thier best online friends.

because there are people like that that will make it a lot more funny then it probably should be (Less I was playing again) I congradulate that guild woot!

*repeats all of above*

This isn't funny, its idiotic. I know several forums that have already banned all memebers of serenity now for this. I seriusly support Vg, and you all should to. Unfortunatly, you dont, and dont understand they...whatever you get the point stop asking ok?

Must I repeat myself or what VG satomi said?

Gah....you all dont understand obviously if you still come here to argue with us.

they didnt, but they did not state you could disrespect them.

True. A well-respect person died, and mouners gathered to cry. All of a sudden, a pack of kids come to play barges in and make immature posts and acts like total idiot with the worst jokes about it, getting them banned of of almost every forum (Im now looking at you james...).

Above, at the top, they
were wearing cloth dresses and tuxedos and with no weapons equipped

They tuxedos really could save them...and if your asking WHY they were wearing them...thats like saying your being knighted by the queen of England and you come in dress in torn jeans, a btter knife in your pocket, not cleaned, and no shirt or shoes...very proper, very ediquite, very respectful, and very handsome you look...

Bunch of idiots.

Like you? If you want to join, be my guest. You sure sound like your worthy (I know Vg satomi agrees.)

Made me think if small kids holding this fake tea-party and then some other kid comes driving over their plastic cups with his bike and all the kids start crying.. Perhaps not a nice thing to do, but wtf, WoW is not about 'playing nice'

The tea party was a private event. If someone importaint (Like the mayor who invited the kids parents and they went out side or something) In the US (and probibly most parts of the world) they could be charges forCriminal mischief and Vandelism and something like that i know. Public disorder? Forgot :shock:

Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, YES FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!! I know that the internet isnt america. But some laws apply around the world. Besides, as I ALWAYS PUT, it was a public memorial service crashed by kids who use big words to sound "saxy", "muscular," or "dudical!" Wow...really impressive, considering they arn't even words.

Serenity, according to wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:

Noun
serenity

1. the state of being serene

2. a lack of agitation or disturbance

Translations

Finnish: tyyneys
Brazilian Portuguese: serenidade

Did your act sound good at all? More like "We use big words that we dont understand"

if you play wow or tft you should agree

I dont play games to slaughter. I dont play games to be gay. I dont play games for n00bish reasons. I play games to relax after long hard school work and when none of my sports are in season. For me, gaming is mearly entertainment. I play to meet up with friends i met of of state, even country, and even friends from school. Its fun for me to chat about the day, play some Wars of Warcraft, COT Rpg, Stronghold, Videogame maul (with my pal, the maker of it, Blueflame2000) Ruins rpg (with my buddy, wyrmlord), Spirit callers rpg (in in-the-making game with my buddy, neostorm), sheep tag (Sometimes ROts with my buddy, cowardlyshoe), etc. Frozen Throne is just...fun. I want to play to escape troubles i sometimes have and/or disscuss it with friends for help. I never play to be immature and stupid (Unlike some people i meet all the time online...SLNR2...)
 
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I think, like VG said, the line was crossed by a mile. Even considering doing something like that crosses the line, but doing it and making a video, and gloating about it, that's miles beyond the line. Blizzard can't do anything, but I think public opinion is completely against them.
 
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Who really cares. i think that raid by that clan was a good thing for them just proving that games are for fun. you don't see anybody from Half-Life 2 stoping a match just for a moment of silence for there clan leader who died. I'm pretty sure that none the clan that raided them lost sleep over it. This can go down as "Takes games to searsly list" along with having weddings in games. like i said probly a good thing for those people to get there butts kicked in a GAME showing that there still players that like to own people in games. I admit its would be sad but how you like to be remeberd by your fake mage or real life?
 
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Right, some people may have thought my previous post insensitive.

Let me explain:

Basically, i couldn't help laughing at the vidio, which obviously alot of time and work was put into.

But I really feel sorry for the girl, her clan members, and most especially, her parents.

But, the raid was not mocking her ; it was mocking the stupid idea of a virtual Funeral. Things like that should be done in real life. It was inapropriate. If you want to remember her, say a prayer for her tonight.

And to be honest, what better way to leave then with an huge battle in your name at your favourite place. May have been more a masacre, but yet it really was quite a way to go out with a bang. I dont beleive serenity now, or any of their suporters have done anything wrong.




And, i myself will say a prayer for her tonight. May she be given the quality and goodness now, that she has given to so many others. And her name be remembered as someone who tried so hard to improve the lives of others. Whatever she experiences now, we all are sure of one thing: Her good soul will go to good places.

Thank you.
 
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Well... what can I say... damn... I don't like this situations. I understand this funeral what meaning it had, mostly when people wanted to share the video with family of this girl to show she was liked etc. The things I hate most was this rogue or whatever disguised with the crowd, and that quote "Nice day for a memorial" or something... that pissed me off. I have few other questions, did this guy jumping in water escape? Why ppl weren't running like hell? Oh and some question... I don't know WoW much I only played it on PvPGN to get a feeling of this game, are the dead characters resurrected or something, or is it like diablo's hardcore mode?

Hmm... next time when doing something like this guards must be set to warn in time.
 
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Xlight

I admit its would be sad but how you like to be remeberd by your fake mage or real life?

For people who didn't know her in real life but were her friend. Yeah I have about 5 people on warcraft who I would consider good friends and if I died I would think they would associate me THROUGH the game. If that hasn't been put plainly obvious enough then someone screwed up.

This can go down as "Takes games to searsly list" along with having weddings in games.

Weddings is totally different than funerals, even stupid people know that. Weddings in WOW are for people who meet their couple over the game. Funerals are for remembering those WHO DIED! They are trying to say how much they cared for that person before the end. If you died how would you feel if all your friends went, w/e hes dead, Idc he was stupid neway.

Who really cares. i think that raid by that clan was a good thing for them just proving that games are for fun.

This was for a kind and caring person, yep what a great way to appreciate that kindness.
 
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Who really cares. i think that raid by that clan was a good thing for them just proving that games are for fun. you don't see anybody from Half-Life 2 stoping a match just for a moment of silence for there clan leader who died. I'm pretty sure that none the clan that raided them lost sleep over it. This can go down as "Takes games to searsly list" along with having weddings in games. like i said probly a good thing for those people to get there butts kicked in a GAME showing that there still players that like to own people in games. I admit its would be sad but how you like to be remeberd by your fake mage or real life?

AGAIN!!!!

At Xlight:

you don't see anybody from Half-Life 2 stoping a match just for a moment of silence for there clan leader who died...Thats right. No clan leader I even know of have died. You know why? Cause no clan leader died. Thats why. It wasn't idiotic, the onlything thats an idiot on this site is you, james, and any other supporter of serenity now...Somebody died, they planned an attack, they crashed a public memorial service, etc etc. If you disagree, read Vg, Ki, mine, serenitynow hater posts. I have to go (Oh boy here I go again.) on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and ARGHH MAKE IT STOP!!!!

My point: You keep support, people will start hating. End of discussion. Vg is overall right, we are mearly aiding him/her when he/she (Still cant tell gender) is annoyed by all these people who disagree.

At james:

Basically, i couldn't help laughing at the vidio, which obviously alot of time and work was put into.

Ummm...that video was really low quality. It wasn't funny at all. Someone died in real life from a stroke, and they videoed a funeral raid. For crying out loud, they did plan it out. Go to their website! You'll see all the tactics and plans for the raid. If I owned wow...man I wish i could have done something to help...I can't believe I couldn't save the funeral goers...

But I really feel sorry for the girl, her clan members, and most especially, her parents.

Then why did you join Serenity-now? Why did you laugh at the video? WHy are you pleading to VG that you dont want to be banned? I have far to many unanswered questions to place here.

Its like saying your dad died, and all of a sudden teens came in with ak-47s and gunned everyone down! HAHAHAH THATS SO FUNNY! James your house is on fire! HAHAHAH THATS SO FUNNY! Oh no theres a mass murdur looking at you on the street! HAHAHAH THATS SO FU-*Ugh*

Simply heroic

Define heroic. Define serenity. Define funeral. Define gay. Define fags. Define idiots. define banned. define public. define crime. define hated.

its a damned game! IT IS NOT REAL LIFE

Now we are seing a point...you think its sad, you are praying that she will find a good place in heaven...and you still whine that its just a stupid game? What? Am I lost here? Im the god of all sheep, and I dont understand what is going on. I have a compass, but it spins all directions. I have a map covered in whiteout. And I have sleeping gear from 1565 B.C. I Seriously dont get your arguement.

what better way to leave then with an huge battle in your name at your favourite place. May have been more a masacre, but yet it really was quite a way to go out with a bang. I dont beleive serenity now, or any of their suporters have done anything wrong.

Yep. Im lost. Vg, help please? :(

But, the raid was not mocking her ; it was mocking the stupid idea of a virtual Funeral

Read the first few things. They were laughing bitterly at how they crashed the funeral. It wasing mocking a vurtual funeral; it was mocking her and all her friends. It was for parody for crying out loud...especially...

"Im hoping to buy her account, Pm me for info. I always wanted to own a dead woman"
-Henry

"I heard she liked PvPs. I just thought we were respecting her"
-Henry (again!)

"Phred Philps is what we do!"
-Unknown.

...Read me clear?

Serenity now has been banned from almost all forums but its own. Im sure anytime now, you will be banned for joining the "most wanted" wow gang. That isnt on the rules, but if you look at the forum that the quotes were found.
 
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Reflect 'bout it.

"My fists have shattered men's dreams,
destroyed families and crushed hopes.
But when I open these hands, I can
hold my wife, make my children laugh
and even aid others. The path that we
take is not right, it's simply the path
that we choose".

-Waugriff
 

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I think that this really would be a great time to advertise for The Sims Online.

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Nastra said:
Reflect 'bout it.

"My fists have shattered men's dreams,
destroyed families and crushed hopes.
But when I open these hands, I can
hold my wife, make my children laugh
and even aid others. The path that we
take is not right, it's simply the path
that we choose".

-Waugriff

He is saying there is no right or wrong. However, it only refers to a game. I have a speech now that refers to actual existance and more.

"Since the dawn of time, humans has been at war. Not with animals, not with other people, but itself. They have different names, lives, personalities, and colors, but, like crayons, they must live in the same place. Other creatures have been more sucessful than others, humans being in last. Some give in to pressure and accept fate or commit suicide. Others can't bear stress and find themselves in an uneven state with eachother. There are to roads: the highway to heaven, and the rocky road to hell. The path we choose differs with each person, but many choose down the dark path. In the end, man will most likely never reach true perfection. This is what Adam taught me."

-Matt540, the god of every sheep

1. Guess what path serenity-now took
2. How does mine refer to racism, wars, hatreds, etc.
3. Which is closer to actual life in this single world the only known to humans that supports life as we know it?
4.
The path that we
take is not right, it's simply the path
that we choose

How does this differ from life?
5. Why did I write this speech?
6. True or false: The answers to all of these can be found in this single post.
 
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well you guys can complain all you want but in the end its just a butch of 1010101 binary. you guys do relize in other countries people die just for playing this game to long. I'm pretty sure those people that where attending where not even watching they probly where all afk watching T.V and stuff.

What you going to do about anyways OMG CALL THE WOW POLICE? in the end it is only a game.. simple as that people can say its wrong people can say it right. and obvilsy sheep your the whiner becuase you make the biggest friggin comments ever and quote every single person arguing against this.

By the way its not that we are laughing at the real person that died no one would do that well some wierd ass people would. where are against people remebering her as the mage not the real person.

And what the hell is with all the wierd poems?
 
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Then why be there in the first place? If you are going to be afk at the funeral anyway why go? Obviously these people cared about her or they wouldn't have gone. I would hope that would be obvious....

And I am not saying take action! I am saying that a**es like serenity shouldn't be retarded enough to ruin something people clearly care about.

Maybe the only version of her they knew was the mage,I mean shes not going to show everyone her face and find everyone she meets on the game.

And for every comment about 'people are dying elsewhere', well most of these people are dying from reasons we can't fix on our own. One person helping isn't what matters it's all of us. And if you think trashing a funeral is helping us fix anything you are totally wrong.
 
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well you guys can complain all you want but in the end its just a butch of 1010101 binary. you guys do relize in other countries people die just for playing this game to long. I'm pretty sure those people that where attending where not even watching they probly where all afk watching T.V and stuff.

What you going to do about anyways OMG CALL THE WOW POLICE? in the end it is only a game.. simple as that people can say its wrong people can say it right. and obvilsy sheep your the whiner becuase you make the biggest friggin comments ever and quote every single person arguing against this.

By the way its not that we are laughing at the real person that died no one would do that well some wierd ass people would. where are against people remebering her as the mage not the real person.

And what the hell is with all the wierd poems?

Ok...you dont understand far to much. Im siding with vg. Oh wow im such a whiner since i keep making long post to prove my point oh yeah im a little sissy girl who whines all day all night non stop!

sarcasim...i rarely do it.

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you guys do relize in other countries people die just for playing this game to long

...? Nope, no one other than that chineese person died from this...suicide, and a few chineese kids who went several consecutive days...starvation. Base your arguements on reasonable sources, not you crazy little mind. Why do you think my sig talks about xXzombieXx and his idiocy?

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I'm pretty sure those people that where attending where not even watching they probly where all afk watching T.V and stuff.

None of them were gone. Did you not see them running around and trying to equitt...well 1 was gone i know he posted on forum forgot the site...

3.
OMG CALL THE WOW POLICE

Ok...wtf? We are mearly arguing that serenity-now is composed of 100% idiots (like you are starting to be for not even putting up a good fight)

4.
in the end it is only a game..

It was a public "in-game" funeral event held by her friends. Did you not read my first posts?

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simple as that people can say its wrong people can say it right.

Its wrong. You must have thoguht it was humorous. Lets see how humorous it is when your a parent and kids sell crack to your tot and he is tried for drug possession. HAHAHAH!! SO funny no?

See where im getting if you are "correct"?

Ki said:
You are wrong

and Ki is right.

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obvilsy sheep your the whiner becuase you make the biggest friggin comments ever and quote every single person arguing against this.

Did you not hear me?

Im writing to say my own words. This is just insane that people would be so gay. They barge right in and kill all the funeral goers for comedy, and you think they are "narley dudicals?" Please, they crashed a memorial service. If you say otherwise...

Who really cares. i think that raid by that clan was a good thing for them just proving that games are for fun. you don't see anybody from Half-Life 2 stoping a match just for a moment of silence for there clan leader who died. I'm pretty sure that none the clan that raided them lost sleep over it. This can go down as "Takes games to searsly list" along with having weddings in games. like i said probly a good thing for those people to get there butts kicked in a GAME showing that there still players that like to own people in games. I admit its would be sad but how you like to be remeberd by your fake mage or real life?

Spark some memories? Lets look at it closer...

think that raid by that clan was a good thing for them just proving that games are for fun.

(10x in a microscope)

think that raid by that clan was a good thing for them just proving that games are for fun.

Larger...

think that raid by that clan was a good thing for them just proving that games are for fun.

With some color now! :D

think that raid by that clan was a good thing for them just proving that games are for fun.

Bold pri-ah you get the picture.

Hopefully....

The raid was for humor, not to prove your point. Did you not read everyone elses comments?
 
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Funeral Disruption

Excuse me, I've attended a funeral in another game before for a character and person who died. Actually I've attended more than a few. Each time there was a funeral for a beloved character&person that died, the people running the world were always in full attendance to show their respects. There were special flowers and foods brought in and the employees of the world would transform a person's favorite zone from PvP to Non-Agression for the day of the ceremony. They also dedicated a new celestial body of stars to the heavens of the world when a beloved employee died. For every PC that dies in real life, a new star is added to the night skies tagged with their primary character name.

If any nut-heads ever so much as attempted to disrupt the proceedings they were immediately killed without hope of ressurection. If the same person controlled multiple characters who attempted to be so disrespectful/disruptive they faced account termination for a few months before they were allowed to come back.

Yes, they lost a few account holders that way, but they did it to keep the majority of people happy. If communications with the WOW employees turns up empty-handed, there is an alternative. You can boycott/overload the game servers in peaceful protest. How you choose to do this is up to you. But I think an organized massive in-game protest&parade of Alliance & Horde clans might be a start.

A few more things... if I were playing in WoW I would be playing a Bard, and if I were playing on that server, I would pen my own songs and sing/spam them in the townships mourning the loss of this favorite PC and praising everyone who died that day to attend her funeral as heroes of a noble cause. I would make no mention of the clan that attacked them except for a most vague reference. Perhaps simply as the dark ones.

I wouldn't just sing such a song once, I'd remmember to repeat it every month and every year, lest anyone forget.

As a performing bard in a number of games and having had a number of rude people throw rocks (and worse disruptions) at me to disrupt my singing or performing or any other public events. I suggest that perhaps an informal Security Clan be formed of respectful members to act as a Guard made up of Alliance & Horde members when a funeral or other mutual event takes place in a PvP area.
 
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Re: Funeral Disruption

SilverSong said:
Excuse me, I've attended a funeral in another game before for a character and person who died. Actually I've attended more than a few. Each time there was a funeral for a beloved character&person that died, the people running the world were always in full attendance to show their respects. There were special flowers and foods brought in and the employees of the world would transform a person's favorite zone from PvP to Non-Agression for the day of the ceremony. They also dedicated a new celestial body of stars to the heavens of the world when a beloved employee died. For every PC that dies in real life, a new star is added to the night skies tagged with their primary character name.

Different Game, I don't think it really matters what happened in other games.

There were about, what? 30 Horde there. This is one server outta 30 or more (each containging thousands and thousands of people, all with their own delemers) and about 30 people turning up . I don't think Blizzard would come to defend it from disruption.

Heck! The announcement wasn't even made on the Official WoW forums! Blizz Employee's rarely check their realm boards (if ever)as it is and I don't think they'd visit someone elses site either.

I am almost 100% sure they didn't even know about it.

Also I watched the movie, I love it, I think it's funny even. But that's only Game-Wise. In real life I feel sorry for the person and their family for their loss, but in game as I said. I found it funny.

Infact, I play on Illidan server. I play alliance on there and I know the guild. And always have since I first bought the game (long before this event occured).

SilverSong said:
A few more things... if I were playing in WoW I would be playing a Bard, and if I were playing on that server, I would pen my own songs and sing/spam them in the townships mourning the loss of this favorite PC and praising everyone who died that day to attend her funeral as heroes of a noble cause. I would make no mention of the clan that attacked them except for a most vague reference. Perhaps simply as the dark ones.

You can't be Bards in WoW. And what difference would that make anyway :p.

I wouldn't just sing such a song once, I'd remmember to repeat it every month and every year, lest anyone forget.

I don't really think anyone would really care to be honest.

Yes it was mean for them to disturb it, but it was mostly the fault of the Hoster(s) for putting it in a Contested Region yadda yadda yadda.


Anyway it's months old now, I don't think anyone cares about it anymore (on behalf of Serenity Now).
 
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I am trying to state a point with my CAPS LOCK ok. Im not meant to scare any one with my methods of Signature signing. And what the hell why would we want to settle a dispute over a post in Battlegrounds??? Correct me if Im wrong but this is a trend of posts expressing one thought and another. Eventually we would have people changing sides or continuously being persistent upon their posts. I don't mind the Battlegrounds but it's a bit off topic to be stating BG when we have important matters to discuss. This post is going to reach 100 comments and I bet some will state off-topic matters. Like everyone else and I stated it's a memorium. You wouldn't believe how far the measures go as to what buddies will do for one and another. Any more reasoning or do I have to give sophisticated posts onto why those want to post 2 of an oppositional contest to see who's right/wrong. And yes we should feel sorry for the person gone and no we shouldn't become Democrats and Republicans over matters like these and yes there's going to be dumb posts and no it is not matters for anyone to laugh basically bc some guy recorded the video for entertainment use when it actually offends many individuals and yes there were insults stating somethings about 70 virgins and all that applies to those simply restating the mocking insults like Matt. WOW NOW I HAVEN"T BEEN ABLE TO POST THIS MUCH OVER THIS TOPIC still not the point however but basically no one have the authority to mock upon those depraived of life whatsoever. That he said about Phred Philips or whatever it is what they do was very insulting upon saying 70 virgins and buying her account and all that creaking crappy insults. DAMN NOW IM OFF TOPIC!!!! :x :x :x :x :shock: :shock: :evil: :evil: :evil:
 
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The video is a lil boring but still, it was kinda funny. And i dont think that girl would mind what happened. While to most of you i may seem as a magor lack of respect, WOW is still a game where u r free to do anything u want, those guys just were having some fun. Dont take it personal, people die every day and if ull hate everyone who once make a joke about it or screw things up like this, there would be nothing else then just more anger in this world. Just smile and forget about it, it wouldnt do any good spreading more misery around the world.
P.S. Why would they show up without their weapons? It's like to say: I aint wearing no underwear 2day because people might think im oversuxual at the funeral.
 
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"Lembre-se de que a coisa mais pesada que alguém pode carregar é a sua consciência..."

Remember that the thing more heavy one man can carry is his conscience...

most of the members of "serenity now" will grow up some day,and probaly they gonna re-think in what they done, we cant do nothing to change what happened, we can only hope that in the future they change... or burn in hell.

Sry for the poor english.
 
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This will probably be the last I will post of this topic.

And i dont think that girl would mind what happened.

Well, I don't think any dead person would actually mind if you piss on their grave....mainly because they can't.

While to most of you i may seem as a magor lack of respect, WOW is still a game where u r free to do anything u want, those guys just were having some fun.

Same could be said for this entire country. You have the freedoms to do and say almost anything you want. However, there is a fine line between what you CAN do and what you SHOULD do (i.e. what is morally acceptable). Behavior like theirs, even in an online game, is not acceptable.

Dont take it personal

How could they NOT??

people die every day and if ull hate everyone who once make a joke about it or screw things up like this, there would be nothing else then just more anger in this world.

Hmmm...personally I blame those who CAUSE the anger rather then those who feel is as a result of someone else's actions.

P.S. Why would they show up without their weapons? It's like to say: I aint wearing no underwear 2day because people might think im oversuxual at the funeral.

Tell me, who the %$#@ shows up to a memorial service armed!? Thats total disrespect in of its self. Only funeral service honor guard (police, military funerals) carry weapons to a service.

Anyway it's months old now, I don't think anyone cares about it anymore (on behalf of Serenity Now).

Months old? Its not even a month old...

I know that people die everyday, and there are places across the world (Africa, South Asia) where people die or are killed in droves due to violence, famine and civil unrest. However this is a warcraft related site, and this particular death had to do with WoW, so you put 2 and 2 together and you get...yeah, I figured it was a valid subject. If this was a geo-political related site, the subject of those killings and other deaths would probably come up quite frequently. However its not, so it wont.

And to those who keep saying "its just a game." I'll say this; Every time someone passes away there are often 2 memorial services (memorials, not funerals). One held by immediate family and close friends, and one held at their place of work by his/her associates and co-workers. For example, when a policeman or military solider is killed, the family holds a memorial, but the police dept/military unit hold their own service to honor one of their own as well at the dept. or place of operations. This person obviously meant enouph to those clan members to have them consider doign such a thing and to have so many people show up. Like it or not, relationships are formed in that game. Talking over ventrillo while fighting your way through MC is not much different then just hanging out with friends. That online world is like that "place of work." So I see it perfectly logical to hold the memorial at the place where they knew their friend the best. If you actually think Serenity Now was just "playing the game" of "just having fun" (especially reading what they had to say afterward) then I'm sorry, but I find you pretty damn cold hearted.

I mean, vandals defacing war memorials that honor the dead are "just having fun" too, but does that make their actions acceptable?

And for the guy who mentioned about doing it in an FPS. Well, if that was the case, there would never had been a problem, because every FPS you can set up your own server and allow only certain people in. Crashers would have never been a problem.
-VGsatomi
 
Mechanical Man said:
Maybe this is a stupid question, but I didn't get a point about this topic. What has happened? How he/she died? VGSatomi (first) message was too complicated for me to understand.

The person died in real life of a stroke. A clan raided her in-game funeral. They laughed and taunted and the mercilesly slaughtered for humor and to be "Wicked mosnsterously babical dudeetes and dudes!"

In the end, they are hated everywhere and post trying to bann them from site are being spread like wild fires through the site.
 
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alright probly time to lock this topic just becuase it will go on and on this my last post to. Well think of it from the attackers view they know somone died in real life and there a funral going on. well if your a agressive clan that likes PVP then hell ya do it free kills. I'm pretty sure if they knew her or any of the clan they probly woulden't have.

To a another point of view your taking the game to searus if you don't bring weapons with ya that just kinda stupid any MMORPG i play even if i wear a diffrent suit i alwase pack my heat in a land where people can do anything. even during events that i ever did with the guilds i where in we alwase assigned security teams remeber PVP pretty much anarchy at its finest.

And VG for FPS i wasn't saying that they coulden't do something like this i'm saying its unlikly people would do it. espcily when you got only options of Team 1 and Team 2.
 
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Just don't disrespect the tranquility of a memorium is all I got to say unless you want to be dirupted on your memorium you're giving to others. Fayejin was a WoW fan and nothing could stop it at that. That explains the last walk of her account character which no one will ever touch leave it at that. :roll: :roll: :roll:
 
Xlightscreen said:
alright probly time to lock this topic just becuase it will go on and on this my last post to. Well think of it from the attackers view they know somone died in real life and there a funral going on. well if your a agressive clan that likes PVP then hell ya do it free kills. I'm pretty sure if they knew her or any of the clan they probly woulden't have.

To a another point of view your taking the game to searus if you don't bring weapons with ya that just kinda stupid any MMORPG i play even if i wear a diffrent suit i alwase pack my heat in a land where people can do anything. even during events that i ever did with the guilds i where in we alwase assigned security teams remeber PVP pretty much anarchy at its finest.

And VG for FPS i wasn't saying that they coulden't do something like this i'm saying its unlikly people would do it. espcily when you got only options of Team 1 and Team 2.

Read vgs post for more info to your answers. Am I the only person who knows what hes doing? (other than vg supporters)
 
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Goddamnit sheep, u really are such a whiner. You got nothing betetr to do then whine.

There is freedom of speach and opinion, u moron. I found it funny, nothing i could do about that. Funyn how u sidetracked all the stuff i said about how sorry i felt for the girl, and tried to make me look bad by quoting a fee little lines of where i said the visio was funny.

And i bet ur ganna quote little snippets of my posts then say : This is what james said: "you moron, u really are such a whiner, you got nothing betetr to do then whine! and claim that im a war monger.


THIS IS A FORUM, FOR DISCUSION, NOT FOR DICTATORSHIP!

And VGsatomi, you was higly unresponcible to go making a news subject and putting so much agrestion and 1-sided opinion into the first post you made, that you knew would have diferent opinions.

But at least VGsatomi dont whine like a little teenage girl such as you do, sheep. VGsatomi, instead acts like a man, and you act like a silly woman sheep. BTW, will people stop taking teh piss out of him saying that hes a female. Of course hes not.
At least I don't think he is. Correct me if i am wrong.

SN for teh win! They are so cool. I wish I was american so that i could be in their clan on wow as well as on their forums on the web.



And the forums that blanket-banned SN members where totally out of order. Just because they ahve a sense of humour (and great taste in music :D ) , aint a reason to ban them.



I remain a suporter of VGsatomi and SN alike. They are both great people. And besides, sheep, VGsatomi would not ban me just for me showing my veiws. If he wanted no discusioon, hes had locked the thread. Hes a nice person :) VGSATOMI FTW !!!
 
james1654 said:
Goddamnit sheep, u really are such a whiner. You got nothing betetr to do then whine.

There is freedom of speach and opinion, u moron. I found it funny, nothing i could do about that. Funyn how u sidetracked all the stuff i said about how sorry i felt for the girl, and tried to make me look bad by quoting a fee little lines of where i said the visio was funny.

And i bet ur ganna quote little snippets of my posts then say : This is what james said: "you moron, u really are such a whiner, you got nothing betetr to do then whine! and claim that im a war monger.


THIS IS A FORUM, FOR DISCUSION, NOT FOR DICTATORSHIP!

And VGsatomi, you was higly unresponcible to go making a news subject and putting so much agrestion and 1-sided opinion into the first post you made, that you knew would have diferent opinions.

But at least VGsatomi dont whine like a little teenage girl such as you do, sheep. VGsatomi, instead acts like a man, and you act like a silly woman sheep. BTW, will people stop taking teh piss out of him saying that hes a female. Of course hes not.
At least I don't think he is. Correct me if i am wrong.

SN for teh win! They are so cool. I wish I was american so that i could be in their clan on wow as well as on their forums on the web.



And the forums that blanket-banned SN members where totally out of order. Just because they ahve a sense of humour (and great taste in music :D ) , aint a reason to ban them.



I remain a suporter of VGsatomi and SN alike. They are both great people. And besides, sheep, VGsatomi would not ban me just for me showing my veiws. If he wanted no discusioon, hes had locked the thread. Hes a nice person :) VGSATOMI FTW !!!

Ok...you and your "freedom of speech" has led me to show you some post of other people I was attack by for freedom of speech! Before i get into my case that is...

Darkshadow: Freedom of Speech? Not here, my friend. Posting useless crap and insulting other people will result in consequences.

Mecheon: Matt, you're very bloody bad at your view

Also, you may have freedom of speech in America, but guess what?

The Internet isn't America

Welcome to our laws. Freedom of speech isn't one of them

Also, you're implying that Darky, who barely even shows up here, is, with your OWN words, "filling the forums with unreasonable topics" when he's trying to tell us of a power outage

HMMMM, I WONDER WHY YOU'RE GETTING FLAMED?

lordothrigs: Well, unfortunatly for you, the internet is based...well everywhere. Also, this site is based in Switzerland, so American and German laws mean nothing here. Also, would you even be here if it weren't for Darky so I suggest you shut up and stop spamming.

Ki: Hey, here's a dare: I dare you to go up to every police officer you see, and say "f*** you" three times. Freedom of speech, right?

powerDK:With freedom of speech, you have the freedom to express your opinions like you did, but that also gives us the option to tell you to shut the **** up. Seems like you forgot that.

And before complaining about that people aren't speaking english, well, learn to spell yourself, your mother language must be english.

And while you're at it, learn to read, no one spoke of banning you, you were only told to shut the **** up, that isn't the same thing.

Vgsatomi (My fav mod for this!): As far as the whole free speech thing, the internet is not governed by an specific international law, nor is is subject to the law of any one specific country- only by local/national ones, if even that. American free speech is protected by the American Constitution, but while in a Swiss site like this one, that holds no ground. After all, what is illegal in one country may be perfectly legal in another. Some international internet law exists mutually between nations, but that mainly pertains to intellectual property (copywrites in regards to pirated/warez material), or others relating to internaional security (i.e. terrorism and the spreading of dangerous intellectual material). But even then the perpatrator is only subjected to the laws of his/her resident country, whether how loose or strict they may be. As far as mouthing off in a simple message forum like this, it can be governed however its moderators please. We could be like the New York Times and censor out anything that we remotely disagreed with if we wanted to. But that is not how we are- just dont be nieve and think that an Amercian domestic law such as the First Ammendment will protect your actions here on an international message board. That goes for everyone- Americans, French, Danish, Polish- everyone.

So basicly, not all countries have freedom of speech. Only a select few. If we did have freedom of speech, I bet joethenakedhippo would run rampant throught the site calling vg a "10 year old fag" (No, im just talking about freedom of speech and joethenakedhippo, not you vg.)

Goddamnit sheep, u really are such a whiner. You got nothing betetr to do then whine.

And you have nothing better to do than make a false attempt to spread freedom of speech throught the internet.

Funyn how u sidetracked all the stuff i said about how sorry i felt for the girl, and tried to make me look bad by quoting a fee little lines of where i said the visio was funny.

Yes. You know why? Cause you left all those questions unanswered. I seriously don't think you feel sorry if you think Sn is a good person! Anyone can lie of a forum...you want to know why?...because...



THE INTERNET DOESNT SHOW YOUR FACE AT ALL TIMES!!!

And VGsatomi, you was higly unresponcible to go making a news subject and putting so much agrestion and 1-sided opinion into the first post you made, that you knew would have diferent opinions.

But at least VGsatomi dont whine like a little teenage girl such as you do, sheep. VGsatomi, instead acts like a man, and you act like a silly woman sheep

1. Sex discrimination. Even freedom of speech doesnt allow that.
2. I know some girls in real life, bnet, and perhaps on the site who can kill you in real life if they met you.
3. Flaming. And bad at that. Little girl? is that all? If freedom of speech was allowed, id be mecheon, you would be xXzombieXx. But, since there isnt, i cant.

BTW, will people stop taking teh piss out of him saying that hes a female. Of course hes not.
At least I don't think he is. Correct me if i am wrong.

Either you flunked pre-k or you cant mysteriously tell the difference between male and female. The person who died mas female.

And the forums that blanket-banned SN members where totally out of order. Just because they ahve a sense of humour (and great taste in music ) , aint a reason to ban them.

they were banned for what they did to the persons "public" funeral.

And to mechanical man: she died of an illness.
 
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-I just watched that video and thought their conduct was disgusting. My condolences go out to those who know this person for the loss of a family member or friend.
-In response to Mechanical Man's question (did some research to answer this), a stroke is in a way similar to a heart attack in how it is caused. Strokes are caused by a loss of blood flow to the brain, causing destruction to brain tissue that disables functions associated with the area damaged. (like how heart attacks are caused). There are two general classes of stroke, ischemic strokes (more common) and hemmorhagic strokes. Ischemic strokes are caused by a blood vessel (like typical heart attack cause) in the brain being blocked by something such as a clot or other large particle. A hemmorhagic stroke is one caused by a blood vessel bursting and is the worst kind of stroke.
 
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james1654 said:
THIS IS A FORUM, FOR DISCUSION, NOT FOR DICTATORSHIP!

And VGsatomi, you was higly unresponcible to go making a news subject and putting so much agrestion and 1-sided opinion into the first post you made, that you knew would have diferent opinions.

But at least VGsatomi dont whine like a little teenage girl such as you do, sheep. VGsatomi, instead acts like a man, and you act like a silly woman sheep. BTW, will people stop taking teh piss out of him saying that hes a female. Of course hes not.
At least I don't think he is. Correct me if i am wrong.

SN for teh win! They are so cool. I wish I was american so that i could be in their clan on wow as well as on their forums on the web.

I remain a suporter of VGsatomi and SN alike. They are both great people. And besides, sheep, VGsatomi would not ban me just for me showing my veiws. If he wanted no discusioon, hes had locked the thread. Hes a nice person :) VGSATOMI FTW !!!

Firstly, you have no idea. Forum moderators can do whatever they want. If they don't like what you're saying, they can ban you, delete your posts, or close the thread.

Secondly, you're a sad person. You don't even get how solemn the event was supposed to be. You're as sick and twisted as the people planning the event.

And thirdly, stop sucking up. That never works, unless it's more covert and the mods are morons. VG isn't a moron.
 
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Personally I'm not a big fan of WoW or any of the MMO's I played WoW before, and there were always so many more horde than alliance (started with an alliance char). I found that all my allies seemed to be idiots, and all the ones with even average intelligence were on my f list. I then switched to horde, as alliance began to annoy me. As I horde I can only say I had a new found hatred for the alliance... I really, really dont like them. Anyways, I think this was going WAY too far. The people who did this must be the lowest members of the alliance there is, and as people, they cant be that great either. I think that anyone who believes this was funny, should burn in... well we all know the rest. I could say a whole lot more to bring them down but it'd just be a waste of words.
-Teld
 
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Ok, I haven't read since my last post, but to the person who said this isn't a dictatorship...

This IS a dictatorship. Like it or not

Anywho, as I have probably said, I am completely fine with the gank. That I could live with

The comments afterwards however are completely sickening and seem to attract my "Asshole" side which, among other things, is the type to go to a funeral of one of the friends of those people and do the exact same thing to give them the grief they made others feel with those comments
 
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I have only recently saw this, so I missed much of it and there are a lot of things I'd like to respond to, so let me just say my piece, k?
page 2, Pooper0101_X, GRAMMER! if you're going to write a post plz at least take the time to
make it readable, or do you hardly know english? ya know like from Austrailia or smthn? :?
page 3, Matt540, sheep god!, they might be from different countries, that's not out of
consideration..
page 1, EdwardSwolenToe and Ki, no comment, becouse it would definitly count as flaming
:evil: page 1, Lord Finarfin, among others, read the whole post, it was her favorite zone, thats
why they did it there, and if they did it in stormwind, the horde people wouldn't have
been able to attend :roll:
page 3, Angelus, don't you think that is a bit extreme? I mean sure, it was bad, but all out
war is the best option, ya know, hunt down their members an give em whats what. real world
and virtual wprld are 2 different things and should stay that way, if you want to dish out
justice, then do it in the game, and dont go saying that bacouse she died in real life,
she shouldn't have a memorial in a virtual world, dying in the real world means you die in
the virtual world too, its perfectly fitting :)
page 3, Gerald, im almost certain you're part of that guild, so jus shut up :lol:
page 4, james1654, look pal, you dont have any sense of law and order, and plz tell me you
wouldn't go and hijack a plane in real life if you could get away with it, really :shock:
page 4, Ki, I have a special response for this, people have different thoughts on things,
yes, dont just think you're right and everyone who disagrees with you is wrong, and
playing neutral in this is not going to fly, you can't be completly neutral in THIS debate,
and quite frankly I think you've crossed to the wrong side, but thats all perspective,
theres no right and wrong there, just opinions, which I cannot overstate should be
respected, its pretty much the same as saying, "I think this is dumb, so im going to kill
everyone there", just get on with your life and let everyone else get on with theirs,
me, I definitly agree with VG and sheep god.
page 4, Matt540, sheep god!, first post, now THIS is what cracks me up!
"quote James"
LOL, watched the movie at least 8 times now. I crack up every time!

I was crying of loaughter when i read the topic from the news page. I sighned up to join serenity
now, that was freaking hilarious. I was absoloutly crying my eyes out with laughter.
"end quote"
"quote sheep god!"
James, ima get a gun out and shoot you before you can find a stolen map.
"end quote"
LOL, I love you, sheep god! :lol:
"quote"
if you play WoW or TFT you should agree
"end quote"
I dont remember who said this, and I'm not really interested in going through all that to figure
out, but I know a lot of people on B.net who just come in, act like an idiot then if they actually
are lucky enough to have pro teammates and are winning, they start shouting "noob" and profanities at
your face, poor fools.
whats your account on B.net sheep god? becouse I also play COT, Stronghold and sheep tag, and just
wondering if I had played with you at some point.Heh, cant help nut brag, I have a lvl 70 Dragoon
on COT, without any help from other players! of course I dont have any god auras, but still...
Page 5, Xlightscreen, AGAIN, people have different opinions, and even if you dont agree with them,
you should really respect them, to tell the truth, you're just making me madder at serenity now...
*swings impossibly big mallet at serenity now member*, look, if you like to just own people, then
then do it with people who share that opinion, or at least with people who are ARMED for crying out
loud! :evil:
the guild members might be just playing a game, but these guys arent, they should really
show some respect here! Oh and, personally, I think you're post counts as flaming
page 5, Nastra and sheep god!, glad to see that COT is as popular as I first thought, but that
confuses me even more, couse it took well over half an hour to find a COT last night, and far longer
the day before, yet my friend found one as soon as his last game was done, IS MY COMP FINLTERING OUT
COT'S!? ARE THEY GOING SO FAST I DONT FIND THEM BEFORE THEY START!? DOES GOD HATE ME SO MUCH!? WHY!? :cry:
page 5, SilverSong, please look at the classes and other things about WoW before posting stuff like
this, there is no bard class :roll:
page 7, reckoning, do you have a B.net account? can you tell me what it is if you do? becouse as far
as I can tell people dont mind if you flame people on B.net :lol:

sry if i haven't played WoW, but from what I've heard and read, this is my idea of what to
do... :arrow:
What I'd do is just find out if they're planning a raid at some point, and ambush them when they come out, you knew the person, you should take some payback, just wage war an all!
all you're doin that I see is complaining that blizzard should jump in, really if you have an issue take it straight to em! (in the shape of an axe or flamestrike, if you will) wait a minute, this is exactly what blizzard what hoping for, right? some historic action on the part of the players, perfect opportunity for some really big battles between the guild, its supporters vs the ppl they attacked and their supporters! 8)

of course in the end I cant relate to this, nobody in my family has ever gotten closer to
death than a large gash in the knee, which I must admit has happened 3 times, but still,
the main issue here is definitly respect, or the lack thereof

what I think is the saddest part is their guild name, "serenity now", Serenity was one of my favorite movies, and firefly by far my favorite TV series, and for me they practicly spit on it, :cry: PAYBACK! :evil:

*whacks another serenity now member with an even larger mallet* :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
 

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You really have to make this difficult, Cronus, by saying something so wrong that I have to jump in again.

You sir are the biggest hypocrite.

GRAMMER! if you're going to write a post plz at least take the time to
make it readable, or do you hardly know english? ya know like from Austrailia or smthn?

I can barely read your entire post. I mean if it's long, it's especially important to be neat. Otherwise, people won't even bother (with the exception of me).

they might be from different countries, that's not out of
consideration..

It really doesn't matter what country you are from (with the exception of some). If you own a website such as this, you can make whatever rules you want (with the exception of some). If I am in a free speaking country and I create a forum website, I can really set the rules to my liking.

it was her favorite zone, thats
why they did it there, and if they did it in stormwind, the horde people wouldn't have
been able to attend

If you post it in a public forum where people from everywhere of all types (mature/immature) have access to the information about the ceremony, I would anticipate someone screwing it up. Would they rather do it in her favorite spot or rather in an area without the possibility of attack? Believe it or not, Horde people can create a new account on the opposing side and join in. They just weren't thinking.

real world and virtual wprld are 2 different things and should stay that way

dont go saying that bacouse she died in real life, she shouldn't have a memorial in a virtual world, dying in the real world means you die in
the virtual world too, its perfectly fitting

plz tell me you wouldn't go and hijack a plane in real life if you could get away with it, really

Maybe I am wrong, but I think that those quotes are contradictory.

people have different thoughts on things,
yes, dont just think you're right and everyone who disagrees with you is wrong, and playing neutral in this is not going to fly, you can't be completly neutral in THIS debate, and quite frankly I think you've crossed to the wrong side

As a supporter of existentialism, I never think I am always right and I never doubt that anyone I disagree with is truely wrong. In fact, right now, I am unsure of my existence, but I am forced to assume that I do exist because I would not be able to operate without that assumption. Learn more about Decartes' philosophy of underlying uncertainty and come back and talk to me again. And I can't be neutral? Then, how did I cross to the wrong side? Neutral isn't a side. I always lean towards obtaining a moderate view as I do my best to give responses without bias and on a one sided point of view.

theres no right and wrong there, just opinions, which I cannot overstate should be
respected

On the contrary, I think there is a right answer to everything, but the truth is extremely hard to grasp because of narrow minded perspectives and bias that one may not even be aware of. You have assume that I have a mindset that is set to knock down VG and Matt, the sheep god. That is very wrong. My responses exist because I see something that may have a wrong angle at a situation.

I hope that clears things up for you.
 
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Granted, it may not have been smart to hold such a memorial in a contested area of a PvP realm, but that is still no excuse. Both horde and alliance players attended without "accidents". I don't know about you all, but I think Blizz shoudl jump in on this one and have made every one of those attendees count as a dishonorable kill.

I highly disagree- a virtual ceremony is stupid idea... unless people have forgotten the difference between reality and games? People pay to play, not worship the dead. I believe you have posted this because, from your point of view, soldiers are to be respected greatly as you are/hope to become a soldier yourself. Put yourself in the position of a Blizzard employee and reconsider from their perspective.

wth! you obviously don't understand that some people actually make friends online. Besides that some of those people could have known her from her community. But in order to allow ALL her friends including those online, to participate in a ceremony, it had to be hosted online and where better than WOW? What they did is a mockery to the deceased. What disgusts me the most is their rude and immature comments they posted after the raid. It makes me sick to think that some people think that just because this is a game that everyone should be treated as another player as a target. If they didn't post those comments like they did i may have been neutral about the topic but that drove me over the edge. I think that the real question being debated here is whether or not this was justified because its a game or because we're remembering a good person. I think we should keep both arguments in mind but as it comes down to it, I know from experience that I have online friends I would dearly miss if they passed away, people i have known for more than 4 years. And lets face it most of us here don't have the money to travel over several states to go to their funeral. I don't think WOW is the most appropriate place to host memorials or funerals but i think we should allow people to still express themselves... But i mean if you like it if people spit on your grave then great for you... I just feel that we should allow others to give the deceased the respect they deserve... that's what i think.
 
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