Reputation Enabled!

[Archian]

Me and Ralle have just come to a decision.

The decision deals with the issue concerning the Reputation system, and whether or not if it should be enabled for normal users (users who dont have any special moderation power).

• We have decided that normal users must have a total amount of +50 reputation points (or higher) before his/her reputation hits count on others.
• And he/she must have 10 posts (or higher) before his/her reputation hits count on others.

Notice, that the staff will still be attentive when it comes to givin reputation to the propper people so that they can be awarded.

 

[Wolverabid]

A wise plan.

I believe that most users who have already acquired 50 reputation points can be trusted to use them justly.

 

[Archian]

I believe that most users who have already acquired 50 reputation points can be trusted to use them justly.

Exactly

 

[Rui]

I think 50 points is a bit high, although tight security. Good idea, nonetheless.

 

[Dr Super Good]

Its good to see that the rep system has finaly been sorted out.

The 50 rep points is a bit high since not even some moderators have that much (looks at Rui) so maybe lower like 40 or 35 since people with that much rep should be responsiable enough.

Also is not the 10 post part a bit low since one is hardly going to get 50 rep within 10 posts (unless you win a compitition or choose your posts wisely) so maybe make it 100 - 250 posts since thats about how many posts people will make to get 50+ rep.

Well anyway nice to see that the rep system has been sorted out.

 

[Shadow_Fox]

A justified solution to one of the problems. And the 50 rep cap is a great anti-abuse thing, good work guys, keep it up!

 

[PrinceofIce]

Awesome(now all I have to do is get 50 rep ><).Well this makes It so when you want to thank a person with rep you don't have to PM them (at least when you have 50 rep).Seems very good solution thanks again for the hard work you guys!

 

[Xlightscreen]

well I guess you have to fix the rep glitch on the Hosted project users it shows a icon for me but when I rep it just a skull unless this is how it is designed.

 

[Dr Super Good]

Your only a hosted project, not an admin.
Your rep is 34 out of the 50 required.
Get 50 and it should work but untill then you can only give skulls and for a reason.
Still does not stop people from giving you a skull for no reason and spamming.

This is what I am talking about, this happened last month.
The Goblin Merchant 01-03-2007 09:29 AM infuzions Yummy in my tummy
Ofcourse it was only a skull but "Yummy in my tummy"? what reason is that for even trying to give rep?

Well anway I think the skull for no rep is a bit wierd. . .
Maybe make it a nonanimated dimond like the green and red but make it white (see through).

 

[Deckboy]

I think 50 points is a bit high, although tight security. Good idea, nonetheless.

Well. . .Rui always has had a problem with people giving him rep. . .everyone just seems to overlook him =P

 

[Kimbo]

I believe that most users who have already acquired 50 reputation points can be trusted to use them justly.

hopefully..

anyway, its abit high but i can still accept it... i was expecting 30-ish, but okay..

I hope people use it properly, and not for birthday rep or "lol, your funny", "HI!!!" rep.

Anyway, iv recently repped alot of people, i will be more aware and alert on peoples good deeds and doings

 

[Xlightscreen]

ha! well I won't reach that high anytime soon...

@Dr Super Good...Yea I knew I didn't have 50 rep but before this I could rep people as a hosted project person...

 

[Chaos]

Finally ... it was time for it ... good idea through ...

Chaos

 

[Mechanical Man]

Well, 50 rep is even more restricting than previous rule, as nearly no normal users have above 50 and only about half of moderators exceeds this number.

 

[Archian]

My first thought was to set it to 30, but Ralle convinced me.

The 50 deals with a simple fact; if you reach that number, then you have proven yourself worthy (we're probably going to adjust it to 60 instead of 50 in comparison to the rep display system)

However, there are still some few things we need to sort out.
For instance the issue regarding the required 10 posts... Dunno why Ralle wanted to set it to that, but I think we're going to adjust it to something higher, like 100 or 150 post count perhaps..

 

[Tonks]

However, there are still some few things we need to sort out.
For instance the issue regarding the required 10 posts... Dunno why Ralle wanted to set it to that, but I think we're going to adjust it to something higher, like 100 or 150 post count perhaps..

Why have a post count requirement at all? That just shows that someone knows how to spam, not that they're necessarily helpful. Look at Daelin, he probably had 50 rep by like, 50 posts.

 

[ragingspeedhorn]

Most, almost all, of Daelins posts comes from wc3sear.ch so he didn't have 50 rep when he had 50 posts as wc3s did not have a rep system since it was in phpBB.

Besides from that rep is useless anyways.

 

[Rui]

True. No point in having 50 or 60 points for giving reputation, nobody will ever reach that, nobody watches the World Editor Help Zone or other forums where we can really see who is useful and who's not.

 

[MetalWarrior]

I don't have +50 rep
I have more than 10 post

And I can add rep... :/

 

[haloboycs]

simple solution - remove rep system.

 

[Xlightscreen]

Well in the end rep is nothing more then little red,blue, and green gif files. But I do agree that is very little diffrence in how many people can rep.

 

[brad.dude03]

Yes, but rep should make more of a difference then a little image. Rep is a way of easily displaying what the community thinks of you without having to do a detailed analysis. Alas, i'm not useful enough around here to get the other required 3 rep (except for the ocassional horribly long post that someone takes the time to read and get the message and finds out that the post is actually quite meaningful), but aside from that: i'm not talented enough in anything related to wc3 to offer up samples of my work, or to help out other users... so I suppose I have no primary way of getting rep, which is why people who have been around for far less time then me have vast amounts of rep, and I have 47. Oh well, it's definetly a move in the right direction (even though I don't see what the problem was in the first place since the rep system itself prevents spamming of rep) so GJ to the admins for clunking their heads together until an idea popped up.

 

[MetalWarrior]

And still, if you make only some ppl being able to rep + or rep -... You are making an elite. And that will cause problem, some ppl may not deserve their rep and other may do. Don't tell me that those that can rep+ watch any little post that ppl make.

This is my opinion.

 

[brad.dude03]

Well reputation is always going to be abused, there is no stopping it. Some moderator will always give neg rep for no good reason, some admin will always spam rap to another admin for no reason, and all of the little users will abuse amongst themselves in between. If people would use it properly, then sure, but since not even the admins are doing that, well I don't think this problem will ever be solved.

 

[Rui]

Respected Users should be able to.

Well, the last possibility I can think of is allowing people with +25 reputation to rep other people, but those would be sent to moderators so they approve of the reputation. That, however, takes alot of work. The current system is ok BUT before anyone can get 50 reputation, it'll take very long. Because, like I've mentioned before, important forums such as World Editor Help Zone and others are NOT being watched.

 

[Mini-Me]

If people would use it properly, then sure, but since not even the admins are doing that, well I don't think this problem will ever be solved.

Good point. I have wondered how archians rep increases so dramaticly . Three blue diamonds? Maybe one other person has blue diamond, and just one. He must cheat

 

[Rui]

Not to sound disrespectable or anything, but I've been wondering the same thing.

 

[PrinceofIce]

I checked his profile and saw some of his recent rep.Ralle gave him some saynig we rock.There were a few with no comments meaning either random rep or they didn't feel like saying why.Lunatechik with some and im sure thats not all considering thats only RECENT rep.Im not trying to be direspectful eitehr jsut seems unfair he gets that kinda rep.

 

[Ralle]

I give archian rep for his work.. some of his work is secret and some is because of very good teamwork in moderating etc..

 

[PrinceofIce]

Why would you guys do something to the site that nobody needs to know about?

 

[l33t5up4h4x0r]

I have been here quite some time and helped a few people out and never even got one rep point. Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining; but it dosent really matter now does it? Hahah i doubt when someone's rep is higher his solutions/maps are always better. Anyways, thank you for all those who helped me even though i can't give them reputation. Honestly, this is one of the most helpful forum communities I've been in and proud to be part of.

 

[Mechanical Man]

It seems that spell section is not really rep profitable, as the paskovich and dalaran guard are regularly helping but their count is still low.

 

[PrinceofIce]

Yes gaining rep is indeed hard.With this rep system is usefull for no spam rep but is bad when people really want to thank another person but don't have enough rep to do it.

Those people who have no skill in skinning or modeling(like me) have trouble getting any rep,even when we do help we don't get anything out of helping other unless we are helpnig a mod or a mod happens to find the thread in which we helped in.

Most people won't get to 50 in a very long time meaning those who already have It are gonig to be the only rep givers.

 

[Mechanical Man]

Those people who have no skill in skinning or modeling(like me) have trouble getting any rep

Even you submit a resource, not many will notice it, few look there, actually. If you compare with wc3sear.ch (skins, models) the next day you got at least five comments and much more downloads than here (even now I bet at wc3sear are commenting more frequently than here), or maps'n'mods where any decent map will have a bunch a comments.

 

[PrinceofIce]

Yeah well your just backingup my point that msot of us who try and do help don't get deserved rep and untalented people(like me) have trouble geting it.

 

[The_wand_mirror]

So i can now +rep someone now again? or when i have 50rep?

 

[HappyTauren]

YaY! Nice to see this rule that would prevent "oh you got neg rep" reputation giving so people with bad rep wouldnt be able to rep eachother. although there are much trusty people with les then 50 rep, though

 

[Ralle]

Even you submit a resource, not many will notice it, few look there, actually. If you compare with wc3sear.ch (skins, models) the next day you got at least five comments and much more downloads than here (even now I bet at wc3sear are commenting more frequently than here), or maps'n'mods where any decent map will have a bunch a comments.

I am working on it.. the resource section is not even finnished. When it is done, there will be comments


We hope that many people will soon have the 50 rep so most of us can give eachother rep. That way it won't be hard to get rep.

Another thing, when helping some1, it's not rude to ask for +rep, it's just so people remember it.

 

[brad.dude03]

Yes, a lot of people forget that giving rep is an option for payment, so yes, as Ralle said, never restrain yourself from asking for some just because you think it's rude xD

 

[PrinceofIce]

-.- its not rude....ITS NOT RUDE..............gosh I wish I knew that-.- maybe that'll make it easier to get rep.-.-

 

[Kimbo]

I dont like it when people ask for rep..but thats how i feel...but i guess..um..dont be scared to ask then..

 

[l33t5up4h4x0r]

Hmm dat's weird suddenly a lot of people gained rep out of nowhere, even i got 10 suddenly....not dat im complaining; but i guess some1 took time to check the threads and rep ppol up hahaha

 

[Kimbo]

I went and checked some people and partially old threads and recent ones today an repped afew people.

 

[PrinceofIce]

Yah wow can't believe im jsut noticing that thank you its nice to finally get what we deserve. Well I now feel I have a chance at 50 rep.

 

[Rui]

I just can't ask for Reputation lol. I feel like I'm asking for too much. It's just not in my way of being.

 

[Deleted member 126647]

I hate seeing signatures saying "Give rep to helpful people

" or "Rep me if ur nice!" crap like that. It's just pathetic begging to me.

 

[Rui]

Agreed. It's pathetic, it's not about being shy, you know...

 

[blackchoas]

I hate seeing signatures saying "Give rep to helpful people

" or "Rep me if ur nice!" crap like that. It's just pathetic begging to me.

wow. I know what you mean. Their like "A Rep Quote - blah blah, Give me Rep blah, blah" AGH so annoying.

Well anyways. The only problem that I can see with the whole rep system is those few that can give out rep will most likely overlook many people making it harder to get to the "Respectable" level. Thus as a sort of snowball effect, less people get rep, less people are able to give rep keeping the people unable to...

Though this could be a good thing so the rep system doesn't go out of control again.

 

[Dr Super Good]

Asking for rep to me sounds like you are doing something purly for rep instead of for fun. So I do not like the idea of asking for rep.
Getting rep is simple but it is hard to get lots.
Making my simple tower got me some rep but I found that was fair considering it too me nearly 8+ hours to make and I started with no idea how to begine.
Also advising some topics gets you rep but seldomly.
The places where the most rep should be aquirable from are making things like terane or maps (which are good) like it currently is and the help sections (which currently few people get rep from).
More rep should be given to people who help solve peoples problems or spend time trying since I spent 30 minutes once writing a jass script to aid somebody and he did not even say thanks and no one actualy commented on the script although it would function perfectly for the job.

Well anyway who am I to say theses things?
Its the admin's decision to what they do, not ours so we should be happy with the rep system and although getting rep is hard, thoes who do get 50 deserve to add rep.

 

[Tonks]

I consider reputation nothing more than a comment system. I understand that other people consider it a big deal, but it just isn't to me. For example, I gave someone a negative rep comment (even though it has no effect, I just wanted them to know that I thought they were being rude) just yesterday, and they got all angry and PM'd me, yelling at me about being rude.

So, yes, it has it's pro's and con's, but I think it's good that anyone can do it, to give comments. I do think, however, that negative reputation should be enabled for everyone. I'm sure it looked a bit odd when I gave the person +rep, telling them they were being rude.