Wicked Rising - A new kind of survival

Tleno · Mar 7, 2011

Like I was serious. :/

Well I wouldn't call those changes minor...

I've read it in one few months old Russian gaming magazine (Long story to explain...), so anyways it's a fully 3D RPG-styled survival game which is quite early stage now and it's beeing created by DoubleBear Interactive or DoubleBear Productions.
Anyways in it there's a full anarchy happening, and all the relations with other people and salvaging the supplies (Medicine, food, water, fuel) is more immportant than fighting zombie, there's a full anarchy and stuff... plus they say that some of your actions will lead to arguing with some of team mates, like for example there was mentioned that you might for example meet a group of survivors beging you to to let them in, some people will agree on that, and some people will be against more people joining you.
What's intresting is that the game graphics don't look so bad for an indie project with such ambitions.

P.S. in one of screenshots there was some kind of McDonald's styled restaurant, called "Mmmm, Bison!" with an emblem of a Bison holding thumbs up and having a red hat and cape just like that Mayor (or whatevr his rank is) Bison villian from Street Fighter series. Lol, that actually made my day when I saw it.

P.P.S. Don't tell me you haven't heard about the Street Fighter series.

TheKurt009 · Mar 8, 2011

dunno if you've thought about it yet...
when we would start the game, do we spawn together or seperately, searching for others?
if we're seperated, does that mean my allies would show up in my minimap too? then they would be easier to find...

GhostThruster · Mar 9, 2011

Sounds pretty good actually, if the players are separated! It could even be a separate mode to try to find all players!

The_Silent · Mar 9, 2011

Separated probably, maybe in smaller groups. One of the main threads in an post-apocalyptic scenario is other survivors trying to get and/or destroy your supplies. The best way to simulate this is with other players. But well, could be a choice as a mode

Well, people who want to design their own houses. Can you please tell me, and maybe give me some hints of what furniture, what kinds of walls, and so forth you want in your house.

TheKurt009 · Mar 9, 2011

The_Silent said:
Separated probably, maybe in smaller groups. One of the main threads in an post-apocalyptic scenario is other survivors trying to get and/or destroy your supplies. The best way to simulate this is with other players. But well, could be a choice as a mode

Well, people who want to design their own houses. Can you please tell me, and maybe give me some hints of what furniture, what kinds of walls, and so forth you want in your house.

houses!?
does that mean you make houses requested by others for your map?!
if so... i want a 2 story house with one of it's room almost wall-less bcoz it's filled with big sized windows. and that room would be the observatory, that, when i'm safe, i can see zombies outside my observatory. oh, and that room should be more closer than the road. and please the walls must be black on the inside. <- if houses are to be requested.

more questions:
does the game have to be like any WC3 game view or can you zoom in?
or maybe like The_Witcher's Advanced Keyboard/camera system?
coz, it really brings up the scary atmosphere, zooming in, zooming out.
but not really the Witcher's work, just some reference...

oh, and if my separation idea was accepted, can you make it random like, i played player 1 and player 1 spawns beside river<-(example) then i restarted and chose player 1 again, can you make me spawn on other places like, let's say, a barn or on the mountains???

The_Silent · Mar 9, 2011

TheKurt009 said:
houses!?
does that mean you make houses requested by others for your map?!
if so... i want a 2 story house with one of it's room almost wall-less bcoz it's filled with big sized windows. and that room would be the observatory, that, when i'm safe, i can see zombies outside my observatory. oh, and that room should be more closer than the road. and please the walls must be black on the inside. <- if houses are to be requested.

more questions:
does the game have to be like any WC3 game view or can you zoom in?
or maybe like The_Witcher's Advanced Keyboard/camera system?
coz, it really brings up the scary atmosphere, zooming in, zooming out.
but not really the Witcher's work, just some reference...

oh, and if my separation idea was accepted, can you make it random like, i played player 1 and player 1 spawns beside river<-(example) then i restarted and chose player 1 again, can you make me spawn on other places like, let's say, a barn or on the mountains???

I let some people get the map in alpha stage a create their own house with the doodads and so forth already in the map. 2 story is however not possible because of the wc3 engine and don't know how to bypass this problem. Players can choose their own cameras via a spellbook abillity.
If there is going to be a restart function, people will respawn different places each time.

TheKurt009 · Mar 9, 2011

The_Silent said:
I let some people get the map in alpha stage a create their own house with the doodads and so forth already in the map. 2 story is however not possible because of the wc3 engine and don't know how to bypass this problem. Players can choose their own cameras via a spellbook abillity.
If there is going to be a restart function, people will respawn different places each time.

can you PM me the map please?

Tleno · Mar 9, 2011

Maybe I just give a decrition of my house? Okay, anyways it's not so real big. So there's an entrance. When you go through it, there is a long coridor. First turn on right is to a bedroom/living room. Second turn left is a kitchen, and also there's a door between the kitchen and living room. Oh, in living room there's another door too, which leads to bathoom. Oh, and in coridor, there's a one turn right at the end, and it leads to some kind of garage/workshop with heavy metal doors locked from inside.
Now the more descriptions of all the furnishing and stuff:
-Coridor. Nothing special, maybe some kind of painting or something on a wall.
-Living room. Computer table, those sofas that can be used as beds, a TV and a small table between sofa and... oh wait we'll get to make everything ourself... then I think I'll wait a bit and will try to come up with something more useful to survive the zombie outbreak.
And I think you should firstly finish the basic terrain with all forests and stuff, so people would be able to choose where to approximatelly locate their house...

ApocalypseNow · Mar 9, 2011

I'd rather like a cameo survivor of me, whom I get to write all the dialog for. That'd be awesome.

GhostThruster · Mar 9, 2011

Could you include a small model of a Halo: Reach game cover somewhere in the map? That'll make me proud. The texture can be CnP.

Symon · Mar 9, 2011

Just found this little drawing of my house on my pc.

Hope img works if not try this: http://i54.tinypic.com/2wem9mq.png

TheKurt009 · Mar 10, 2011

i think a two story house is possible, but it's okay to not have some.
but i want a black wallpaper inside the house...

The_Silent · Mar 10, 2011

tleno said:
Maybe I just give a decrition of my house? Okay, anyways it's not so real big. So there's an entrance. When you go through it, there is a long coridor. First turn on right is to a bedroom/living room. Second turn left is a kitchen, and also there's a door between the kitchen and living room. Oh, in living room there's another door too, which leads to bathoom. Oh, and in coridor, there's a one turn right at the end, and it leads to some kind of garage/workshop with heavy metal doors locked from inside.
Now the more descriptions of all the furnishing and stuff:
-Coridor. Nothing special, maybe some kind of painting or something on a wall.
-Living room. Computer table, those sofas that can be used as beds, a TV and a small table between sofa and... oh wait we'll get to make everything ourself... then I think I'll wait a bit and will try to come up with something more useful to survive the zombie outbreak.
And I think you should firstly finish the basic terrain with all forests and stuff, so people would be able to choose where to approximatelly locate their house...

Haha, just nothing to unrealistic like bunker walls or turrets xD
Well, what about people simply say what kind of surroundings they want their house in if they dosen't want to build the house them self anyway?

ApocalypseNow said:
I'd rather like a cameo survivor of me, whom I get to write all the dialog for. That'd be awesome.

So no house? You can probably get both you know

will just ease my burden anyway if users come up with things xD

GhostThruster said:
Could you include a small model of a Halo: Reach game cover somewhere in the map? That'll make me proud. The texture can be CnP.

Probably if enough space is available

But what house do you want surrounding it? xD

Symon said:
Just found this little drawing of my house on my pc.

Hope img works if not try this: http://i54.tinypic.com/2wem9mq.png

It works, any special notes on it? like, walls, tapestry, floor, furniture? ^^

TheKurt009 said:
i think a two story house is possible, but it's okay to not have some.
but i want a black wallpaper inside the house...

Okay, already made black wallpaper

Miss_Foxy · Mar 10, 2011

That's the layout, right?

Symon · Mar 10, 2011

Bath, corridor and kitchen have got white tiles, living and bedroom have got laminate. Blue couch, black TV, simple kitchen, everything in the bath is white, same with the walls.. just white

. Got some posters in bed- and livingroom. So, nothing realy special, just a simple house

Tleno · Mar 10, 2011

Well, obvious from my avatar I like making something techy and simple. This applies to houses too.
Anyway, after reading about Dead State, I got one question. How will we salvage fuel (And will there be fuel system for vehicles anyways?)?
I mean, fighting over fuel stations and wartehouses with canisters sounds fun. Esspecially if you miss and blow up the whole canister...

The_Silent · Mar 10, 2011

tleno said:
Well, obvious from my avatar I like making something techy and simple. This applies to houses too.
Anyway, after reading about Dead State, I got one question. How will we salvage fuel (And will there be fuel system for vehicles anyways?)?
I mean, fighting over fuel stations and wartehouses with canisters sounds fun. Esspecially if you miss and blow up the whole canister...

Probably through mana, no mana means the car can't start, using Fuel canisters will refuel the vehicle. And yes, fuel is certain essential so people will probably end up fighting over it unless they find another power source. And is as said already doing the Filling station

Symon said:
Bath, corridor and kitchen have got white tiles, living and bedroom have got laminate. Blue couch, black TV, simple kitchen, everything in the bath is white, same with the walls.. just white . Got some posters in bed- and livingroom. So, nothing realy special, just a simple house

okay

Tleno · Mar 10, 2011

Actuallly so many unneceseary animations would be... unneceseary. All the knockback systems in WC3 look great even without the special animations. You can do a lot of stuff even with basic villager male animations too.

TheKurt009 · Mar 11, 2011

oh yeah, and i want my sims dressed in white tank tops and blue jeans
(lol, this house designing is reminding me of sims)

well, all these ideas are too many, doesn't it lag?
and what is the map size? the largest map size in jassnewgen?

and,
I WANT MY SIM TO BE AN ARMY MAN!!! (lol)

The_Silent · Mar 11, 2011

TheKurt009 said:
oh yeah, and i want my sims dressed in white tank tops and blue jeans
(lol, this house designing is reminding me of sims)

well, all these ideas are too many, doesn't it lag?
and what is the map size? the largest map size in jassnewgen?

and,
I WANT MY SIM TO BE AN ARMY MAN!!! (lol)

Reskinning villagers is however not possible, as skins takes a HUGE amount of space. Attachments however is. Size is same as normal wc3 for multiplayer: 8000 MB.

Some sketches of what people want as houses would be nice, at least for those of you that has no interest of doing it inside the map yourself. Also, might allow one special unique item for each member of the team when the item system get up and running.

Jordon: Stop trolling, this seriously getting really old. And nobody cares, my suggestion would be for everyone just to report and ignore him...

ApocalypseNow · Mar 11, 2011

GhostThruster said:
Seriously, * off. I swear you need to get a life and get out of this thread. Go stalk a SC2 community, k, *?

Lol'd

tleno said:
Oh hi jordon. I see your tinny little amoeba brains have figured out how to multiply! Please do not ruin this thread with your messing again, you are really obnoxious...

Double lol'd

Sure. I'll make a house design up sometime when I'm bored. Also, permission to write out all the survivor encounters and military encounters and such? tbh I'm a writer and I need some stuff on my resume.

The_Silent said:
Jordon: Stop trolling, this seriously getting really old. And nobody cares, my suggestion would be for everyone just to report and ignore him.

Agree.

TheKurt009 · Mar 11, 2011

The_Silent said:
Reskinning villagers is however not possible, as skins takes a HUGE amount of space. Attachments however is. Size is same as normal wc3 for multiplayer: 8000 MB.

Some sketches of what people want as houses would be nice, at least for those of you that has no interest of doing it inside the map yourself. Also, might allow one special unique item for each member of the team when the item system get up and running.

Jordon: Stop trolling, this seriously getting really old. And nobody cares, my suggestion would be for everyone just to report and ignore him...

8000mb!? lol

The_Silent · Mar 11, 2011

I wish it was anyway xD
No, mistaken megabits for kilobits, its 8000kb or 8mb xD

Tleno · Mar 11, 2011

Well actually it's pretty... hard to make map over 8mb, unless you're immporting more than few custom interfaces or custom music.
But models don't take so much space, few skins won't ruin this too.

akrep_ve_su · Mar 11, 2011

So how is the map coming? =) Estimated release date? Progress (in percents)? =)

Antipode · Mar 12, 2011

The_Silent said:
Some sketches of what people want as houses would be nice, at least for those of you that has no interest of doing it inside the map yourself. Also, might allow one special unique item for each member of the team when the item system get up and running.

About sketches of houses, how about a/2/3 default layouts for apartments/condos/HDBs? About the item system, how is it going?

Tleno · Mar 12, 2011

Apartments will be pretty simple since in most of appartments flats are mostly the same with minimal differences, plus because there won't be any tall buildings or basements and everything will be happening on ground level, there won't be much use from apartments.

Antipode · Mar 12, 2011

Probably the rooms will have a rectangle layout, a 3-right-angle-and-2-45degrees-angle-pentagon layout and a rectangular room with rectangular extension layout. They are the most common rooms.

-W3SK3R- · Mar 12, 2011

Well this one is good project but why only one screenshot?

The_Silent · Mar 12, 2011

akrep_ve_su said:
So how is the map coming? =) Estimated release date? Progress (in percents)? =)

Slow
Release date: Far into the future
Progress: Not much
xD

Antipode said:
About sketches of houses, how about a/2/3 default layouts for apartments/condos/HDBs? About the item system, how is it going?

Item system? Hasen't started yet, Will probably just use a premade one unless some programmer or I decides to start on doing it.

tleno said:
Apartments will be pretty simple since in most of appartments flats are mostly the same with minimal differences, plus because there won't be any tall buildings or basements and everything will be happening on ground level, there won't be much use from apartments.

Agree, also think the area will be maybee more sub-urban.

DEMIGOD123 said:
Well this one is good project but why only one screenshot?

There is more, but just not on the front page :/ will put them on there when I get more motivated xD

ApocalypseNow: Well, npc's arent so important right now :/

espatula · Mar 12, 2011

it's not impossible to make diferent levels in a building

GhostThruster · Mar 12, 2011

It's just unnecessary and tiresome.

The_Silent · Mar 18, 2011

Bump.
How is progress with everyone

Personally I've soon made all the needed walls and furniture for you to design a house ^^

Symon · Mar 21, 2011

Any new screenshots or something?

Oh, and espatula can u send me a link how to do diffrent levels for a house or something? Is there a tutorial out there somewhere? I'm realy curious how this work. thx

-W3SK3R- · Mar 21, 2011

We want more screenshot so we can know that this project is active.

TheKurt009 · Mar 22, 2011

@The Silent
pm me the map! i wanna design a house!

The_Silent · Mar 22, 2011

DEMIGOD123 said:
We want more screenshot so we can know that this project is active.

Do I really have to prove that, anyway, I'm not terraning, so that would be kinda pointless.

TheKurt009 said:
@The Silent
pm me the map! i wanna design a house!

Well, still need some things. Do you have anything special that you need exactly for your house while we're at it?

-W3SK3R- · Mar 22, 2011

Oh god so i know what are you working on models and systems ain't you?

TheKurt009 · Mar 23, 2011

The_Silent said:
Do I really have to prove that, anyway, I'm not terraning, so that would be kinda pointless.

Well, still need some things. Do you have anything special that you need exactly for your house while we're at it?

hmmm? thinking...
for a black wallpaper, i want a window as big as the unit itself.
and a minimalist feel in it. no rainbow colored furnitures, or the likes.
hmmm just a black wallpaper and a window as big as the unit itself
don't want to burden you with all my ideas right?

The_Silent · Mar 23, 2011

DEMIGOD123 said:
Oh god so i know what are you working on models and systems ain't you?

Models primarily currently, but yes

TheKurt009 said:
hmmm? thinking...
for a black wallpaper, i want a window as big as the unit itself.
and a minimalist feel in it. no rainbow colored furnitures, or the likes.
hmmm just a black wallpaper and a window as big as the unit itself
don't want to burden you with all my ideas right?

You can as well, I might be the least creative creature on the face of the earth xD
But, should the window be as big as a wall piece or as the character?

TheKurt009 · Mar 23, 2011

The_Silent said:
Models primarily currently, but yes

You can as well, I might be the least creative creature on the face of the earth xD
But, should the window be as big as a wall piece or as the character?

as the wall piece...
well, if i'm gonna design a house, okay.
will post as soon as i'm finished

The_Silent · Mar 24, 2011

Would be nice

should it be a brick, wooden or a different kind of house? and what theme should the furniture be in?

TheKurt009 · Mar 24, 2011

The_Silent said:
Would be nice
should it be a brick, wooden or a different kind of house? and what theme should the furniture be in?

Here!
also, a little documentation:
the RED lines were the windows
you don't need to make a walking floor just right the outside space.
and the Gradients on the Kitchen are lights coming in from the windows
so to not confuse you.
and about that Green Gradient is a neon light, it's okay if you don't need to make one.
and the sofa should be black. i just added a white gradient so it would look cool, but it's just a design, it's also okay to not make a white stripe on the sofa.
about the Rectangle at the front of the sofa is a table. and the Wide TV (assuming you made a model like that since it's easier to make a widescreen/flatscreen tv than a regular one) i made a blue gradient to not confuse you with what's on the drawing.
and it's a brick house.
a minimalist feel in it
can you please make the space on the house at the sofa and window?
so i can move to the tv? the drawing seems a little narrow.

Gradient

is only for guides, no need to make something like that.
but, if you made a green light that looks like neon, i'll worship you (since you're my inspiration and all.. lol)
that's just it. no bedrooms and all, but you can make one if you want :ogre_hurrhurr:

don't want to burden you!

MORE POWER TO WICKED RISING! :grin:

The_Silent · Mar 24, 2011

Awesome, will start working on it right away

will post a screenshot as soon as I am finished

Tleno · Mar 24, 2011

Oh cool, great picture! Oh, and I just came up with one good question: Electronics, will we be able to scavange those for parts to make something more useful? Or at least using a turned on TV as attraction for zombies...

supertoinkz · Mar 24, 2011

What's with the house plans? (sorry, didn't read the whole thread, too many).

Tleno · Mar 24, 2011

Well, there will be different buildings on the map, so Silent asked people to come up with some building interiors, like house interiors.

supertoinkz · Mar 24, 2011

Can I participate too?

Tleno · Mar 24, 2011

Anyone can. If he's not jordon the multiaccounter.

HeavenisnotHell · Mar 24, 2011

Nice map here! Compared to those generic crap out there...