When to use Timers instead of Waits?

[NightElf125]

Like for example, would it be worth it in this trigger?:

• Actions
  • Set CellCamera = (Center of Region 018 <gen>)
  • Camera - Set the camera bounds for (Owner of (Entering unit)) to Region 000 <gen>
  • Camera - Pan camera for (Owner of (Entering unit)) to CellCamera over 0.00 seconds
  • Custom script: call RemoveLocation (udg_CellCamera)
  • Visibility - Create an initially Enabled visibility modifier for (Owner of (Entering unit)) emitting Visibility across Region 000 <gen>
  • Wait 3.50 seconds
  • Unit - Unpause Cell
  • Unit - Make Cell Vulnerable
  • Unit Group - Pick every unit in Hero_Selected_Unit_Group and do (Unit - Unpause (Picked unit))
  • Trigger - Turn on Cell 1stForm Float Txt <gen>
  • Trigger - Turn on CellSkill1 <gen>
  • Trigger - Turn on Cell Mana Gain <gen>

Or this one?:

• Actions
  • Trigger - Turn off CellSkill1 <gen>
  • Trigger - Turn on UltiSound <gen>
  • Unit - Pause Cell
  • Unit - Make Cell Invulnerable
  • Special Effect - Create a special effect attached to the origin of Cell using war3mapImported\GaiaShield.mdx
  • Set CellUlt[1] = (Last created special effect)
  • Set Cell1stFormFloatText = (Position of Cell)
  • Floating Text - Create floating text that reads |cff000000**|r|cff0... at Cell1stFormFloatText with Z offset 0.00, using font size 10.00, color (100.00%, 100.00%, 100.00%), and 0.00% transparency
  • Floating Text - Change (Last created floating text): Disable permanence
  • Floating Text - Change the lifespan of (Last created floating text) to 4.00 seconds
  • Floating Text - Change the fading age of (Last created floating text) to ulttimer seconds
  • Floating Text - Set the velocity of (Last created floating text) to 15.00 towards 90.00 degrees
  • Custom script: call RemoveLocation (udg_Cell1stFormFloatText)
  • Wait ulttimer seconds
  • Set CellUltCenter = (Center of Region 031 <gen>)
  • Unit - Move Cell instantly to CellUltCenter
  • Custom script: call RemoveLocation (udg_CellUltCenter)
  • Trigger - Turn off UltiSound <gen>
  • Unit - Set mana of Cell to 0.00
  • Game - Set the time of day to 22.00
  • Special Effect - Destroy CellUlt[1]
  • Set TopLeftCellSpot = (Center of top left cell <gen>)
  • Set BotRightCellSpot = (Center of bot right cell <gen>)
  • Unit - Create 1 Cell Jr. for Player 12 (Brown) at TopLeftCellSpot facing 0.00 degrees
  • Set CellJuniors[1] = (Last created unit)
  • Unit - Make CellJuniors[1] Invulnerable
  • Unit - Order CellJuniors[1] to Orc Tauren Chieftain - Shockwave BotRightCellSpot
  • Custom script: call RemoveLocation (udg_TopLeftCellSpot)
  • Custom script: call RemoveLocation (udg_BotRightCellSpot)
  • Wait 2.00 seconds
  • Set TopRightCellSpot = (Center of top right cell <gen>)
  • Set BotLeftCellSpot = (Center of bot left cell <gen>)
  • Unit - Create 1 Cell Jr. for Player 12 (Brown) at TopRightCellSpot facing 270.00 degrees
  • Set CellJuniors[2] = (Last created unit)
  • Unit - Make CellJuniors[2] Invulnerable
  • Unit - Order CellJuniors[2] to Orc Tauren Chieftain - Shockwave BotLeftCellSpot
  • Custom script: call RemoveLocation (udg_TopRightCellSpot)
  • Custom script: call RemoveLocation (udg_BotLeftCellSpot)
  • Wait 2.00 seconds
  • Set BotLeftCellSpot = (Center of bot left cell <gen>)
  • Set TopRightCellSpot = (Center of top right cell <gen>)
  • Unit - Create 1 Cell Jr. for Player 12 (Brown) at BotLeftCellSpot facing 180.00 degrees
  • Set CellJuniors[3] = (Last created unit)
  • Unit - Make CellJuniors[3] Invulnerable
  • Unit - Order CellJuniors[3] to Orc Tauren Chieftain - Shockwave TopRightCellSpot
  • Custom script: call RemoveLocation (udg_BotLeftCellSpot)
  • Custom script: call RemoveLocation (udg_TopRightCellSpot)
  • Wait 2.00 seconds
  • Set BotRightCellSpot = (Center of bot right cell <gen>)
  • Set TopLeftCellSpot = (Center of top left cell <gen>)
  • Unit - Create 1 Cell Jr. for Player 12 (Brown) at BotRightCellSpot facing 90.00 degrees
  • Set CellJuniors[4] = (Last created unit)
  • Unit - Make CellJuniors[4] Invulnerable
  • Unit - Order CellJuniors[4] to Orc Tauren Chieftain - Shockwave TopLeftCellSpot
  • Custom script: call RemoveLocation (udg_BotRightCellSpot)
  • Custom script: call RemoveLocation (udg_TopLeftCellSpot)
  • Wait 2.00 seconds
  • Sound - Play KotoBeastPissed1 <gen>
  • Wait 0.75 seconds
  • Sound - Stop (Last played sound) After fading
  • Set CellUltCenter = (Center of Region 031 <gen>)
  • Unit - Create 1 Cells Ult Explosion for Player 12 (Brown) at CellUltCenter facing 90.00 degrees
  • Custom script: call RemoveLocation (udg_CellUltCenter)
  • Unit - Kill (Last created unit)
  • Wait 2.00 seconds
  • Unit - Kill CellJuniors[1]
  • Unit - Kill CellJuniors[2]
  • Unit - Kill CellJuniors[3]
  • Unit - Kill CellJuniors[4]
  • Unit - Make Cell Vulnerable
  • Unit - Unpause Cell
  • Trigger - Turn on CellSkill1 <gen>
  • Game - Set the time of day to 12.00

Would it make the map noticeably more stable etc? It would just be a lot of work to replace all these waits with timers, as I would need a lot more triggers... I know for spells I need them as I want my spell to be MPI/MUI, but what about a series of actions like these? Btw if anyone notices any leaks here tell me, haha.

 

[Maker]

For cinematics and stuff like that, waits are fine. For spells and most systems I recommend timers.

 

[NightElf125]

Ah alright, thanks for that Maker. =)

 

[wolfman]

Also, just to add on to that, waits have a minimum time that can be applied. For example, if you do wait 0.01 seconds, it will actually wait about 0.25 or something like that. But timers can work for a small interval like 0.01

 

[PurgeandFire]

It depends on the precision you desire. As the duration reaches towards infiniti, the precision desired becomes much more negligible. However, as the duration reaches towards 0, the precision becomes a lot more noticeable.

For example, if you wait 3 seconds, it might wait something around 3.1 or 3.2 seconds instead. It depends on lag as well. (Polled wait leads to more precision against that lag, since it uses a timer with it, but it leaks a handle ID each time it is called) Either way, for small durations less than 1, the difference becomes a bit more noticeable. If it is a single wait, usually it is unnoticeable, but for things such as periodics, timers are best suited for it. =)

In a simple form, if you need it to be accurate and the wait is less than 1, then timers are suggested. If it is about 1 or higher, it is usually okay to use waits, as the difference is usually negligible.

In your case, it should be fine to use those waits.

 

[defskull]

Or you can use Integer/Real for "countdown"
Do it like this:

• Example 1
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit Starts the effect of an ability
  • Conditions
    • (Ability being cast) Equal to Animate Dead
  • Actions
    • Set Countdown = 5
    • Trigger - Turn on Example 2 <gen>

• Example 2
  • Events
    • Time - Every 1.00 seconds of game time
  • Conditions
  • Actions
    • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
      • If - Conditions
        • Countdown Greater than 0
      • Then - Actions
        • Game - Display to (All players) the text: (String(Countdown))
        • Set Countdown = (Countdown - 1)
      • Else - Actions
        • Trigger - Turn off (This trigger)

This 2 trigger is related and will show you the countdown of the numbers down to 0 and will turn off the trigger, by obeying the IF/THEN/ELSE function