Whats so great about Dota?

[danzig666]

I've played Dota a few times, and I don't think its all that great. Hell, I don't even know what it stands for. Some other internet nerds argue thats its the greatest freakin' thing to happen to mankind since Einstein or Jesus. If you ask me, its just a bunch of jackasses calling eachother n00bs, and keep saying "No leavers, n00b."

 

[The_Prophet]

You win my vote for president

 

[ben_xuereb]

rofl i second that president vote and yeah you right is all people do is say n00b or SLOW DLER (not me of course my cable pwns em) or BAN HIM there is nothing good about it just 1 level higher can make that person unstopable sometimes completly unbalanced the most annoying thins is thats all you ever see ive got a acc i rarly use on TFT called anti-dota-tower i only play it with a friend or 2 since i know thier not realy nerds like all other dota players

EDIT: it stands for defenders of the ancients
if it was up to me i would change it to "defenders of the ancient nerds who cant stop baggsing everyone think thier cool but thier geeks

 

[VGsatomi]

Whats so great about Dota?

If you find what it is, let me know plz...I am curious, myself.
-VGsatomi

 

[Murlok]

The fun of dota is within the heroes and the fast paced action of it, less then the long tearm strategy and planning that are involed in many other aos's, while still having elements of strategy and teamplay it is more a game of countering and timing.
Dota is balenced is not direct, but simply is balences through imbalence, certain heroes own other heroes and certain heroes do not, it is as simple as that.
In public games the gameplay is chaotic and most of the time the teams will fight amongest each other, concerning kill steals and noobies. Ok, now you might be asking your self "how is someone a noob at dota?" it is quite simple, and it comes down to three key factors.

1)Know your opponent: One of the biggest aspects of dota that seperates so called "leet" players and "omgwtfnoobs". Dota is comprised of over 50 heroes and each has there own strengths, weaknesses and extremely powerful abilites, to fight aginest the hero in your lane you must know what abilites they posses and plan ahead so that you can avoid or prevent them from using them aginest you.

2)Item Builds: One of the key points of dota are item builds, the correct items on a hero can make them goldy while the wrong ones can screw him to shreads. Knowing which items work well with your hero and which ones are most effective aginst your opponets heroes is key to dominating the game.

3)Matchups: While it is rare to see the players waiting or discussing which heroes they will pick to fight the opposing team it is still a very importent aspect to the game, if the opposing team has a large number of casters it would be best to pick an anti caster such as the anti-mage or scilencer while if they are made of many assasin heroes it would be best to pick a tank hero like pudge or sven. It is also key to choose your enemy, if you are up aginst your weakness in a lane it is best to change to somewhere where you will not be at a disadvantage.

As a closing note, people do not like people to dl DoTa off of battlenet because it takes awhile and many dota players would rather kick a dler and get another player in a few seconds then wati for him, you can download the newest version of dota from there website. http://www.dota-allstars.com/

I hope that was insightful into the "deep" and "tactical" world of dota. Bnets "finest" (lol) map.

 

[N00byStance]

DotA sucks because of its community, not the map itself.

 

[Ramza]

Whats so great about Dota?

The ripped spells and models from this site

 

[Thanatos]

I agree with Murlok!
DotA is an excellent map, you only need know how to play.
Playing dota at the first time reálly appears an unbalanced and fool map, but, when you know about all heroes, all items and becomes a good player, You'll see that DotA is really a good map, The best!

 

[Murlok]

I do not think dota is an excellent map if you read into my sarcasim you would have seen that. I belived that Icefrog should have added in the credits the names of the authors of the models, spells, skins, and icons they used, the only name of a recource maker I have seen in the credits is Vestorians.

 

[Thanatos]

Oh, , I didn't read all your topic, only the begin! :lol:
But this is my opnion, when you really learn how to play, you start to like DotA!

 

[Gaius Julius]

Theres so MUCH Dota, every other game hosted on bnet is Dota. So pretty much 3/4 of this site hates dota on my caculations....

 

[map-maker]

Alright here it goes... DotA or defence of the ancients is in my opinion the reason for the "dark ages" of warcraft3. most people used to be nice on wc3(MOST); but now all you hear is: l1k3 0mfg d0t4 pwnz0rs j00(note i have not actually heard this exact phrase but ive heard close enough to it) and n00b, slow dl lagger, and of course dler n00b. im not saying this was all caused by dota but in my mind mostly newbies or people who dont understand wc3 and what makes a good map are the ones who play dota(u dont usually hear people who have been playing wc3 from the begining going around saying "omfg u fu*king noob u dl slow u n00b lagger"well...most. if you really look at the game then the main thing that stands out is, the heroes arent balanced in the least which kills the game all together considering the main part of it is using heroes... and don't even tell me this "if you become good at dota than youll love it" crap i have heard that to many times, all dota is is knowing which hero is imba the most and killing everybody else...wheres the fun in that "strategy?" if u can call it that.anyway in conclusion all i have to say is dota has killed wc3 its not fun at all in my opinion and i cant wait till it dies :twisted:

 

[Knuxyl]

i like dota but it gets old quick and the people there are fuckin pricks. i swear to god if u r a little worse than one of the players than they will cuss u out and say kick him or remake or something to make them look bad ass. i think the dota games would be mnore fun if there was tomes and they had many different versions (the map's tileset) cuz it gets old.

 

[ben_xuereb]

you want to know why dota people are like that?

heres my opinion

1) they play it like hell and its likely to get a dler or 2 and since they play it alot they get sick of dlers

2)a nice person goes along trys it completly not a dota freek and since the people who play dota act like real D**k H***DS those people start to become like them cause thier personaltys influance the person

3)dota is a g4y contagious deasise and people evently give up fighting against dota

im not a dota person but when i used to try see what was so good about dota i always get kicked cause people being f4gs and ive played it before with a friend who doesnt act like the majority of the dota people do but at once stage i almost gave in to dota by thinking of joining dotas constantly but i was smart enough (for once) to not do somthing stupid

 

[Los_Tacos]

It makes me feel good to join a DotA game then leave at the 4 second mark of starting the game. Join me on my conquest, you'll feel better about yourself.

 

[Mecheon]

I find it interesting how the basic forcing one to choose certain items to be a useful addition concept which I feel is pathetic and should not be done is held in high respect by others

At that, imbalanced heroes. I have a friend at school who likes DotA, and I go "DotA is imba" and he goes "Yeah, I found this hero who instantly kills everyone under 600 hp as an ultimate and has enough normal skills to rip them a new one aside from it!"

 

[ben_xuereb]

lol thats a good idea los tacos i gotta try that every while and then

 

[soulbad]

ROFL los taco that is an excellent idea...i'll try that, if i can ever get inside a dota game to begin with. I really think that people need to create different games there are so many high quality wc3 games out there that just haven't been discovered because everyone is out playing dota. Come on dota players try something new out and I guarantee you'll like it. Btw dota=no creativity just another aos game that is abused beyound belief.

 

[Blade.dk2]

What is great about dota? It helps keeping noobs away from wc3sear.ch, most of them goes to the dota forum - still there are noobs here.

Oh, and the imbalance, stolen objects, lack of tactic, "BANLIST system", and HORRIBLY lame code. It leaks, and even worse it is completely idiotic. Things that could be easily done without even being triggered, is triggered in ways that just destroys everything.

It has stolen resources, which are the only great parts of the map. And even those objects are turned into ****, because of being in that map.

It also lacks story.

What's so good about dota? Nothing.

If you want to play aos maps, don't play the popular ones, the popular ones suck. I only play Blades and Billets these days, it's the only aos map I have played and really liked.[/url]

 

[Bobhellbringer]

i dont see how only certain combonations of items can help makes a game strategic thats the opposite, strategy means any combo of items (except stupid ones) can make your hero have different advantages (more health, more attack) plus the l33t players r guys who choose the imba heroes. Maps that are imbalenced which makes them balanced are lame and show that the makers are lazy and they should make real balanced heroes. DOTA destroyed the Warcraft 3 Battlenet Customs!

 

[boomwolf]

did any of you ever played DOTA you are so sure it sucks?
dota is a good game...but i allmost never play it cuz i know like 20 better games...
the reason so many people play only dota is that the first time they login they enter a dota game-and then dont even try anything else!
now i played dota for my first time a lot of time after i first joined B.Net (i joined it about 3 days after the game came out-thats the time it took me to finish the campaigens) so i knew better games and i left it alone...

here are a list of MUCH better games:
dodge the sheep-a game that was really good but died away
sheep tag-hell fun
tree tag-same idea
tag, your it-freaking good! i LOVE this baby!
DoBRP-my favorite...i play it every time i got a chance...
CoTRP-same life DoBRP
<frogot name>-one more RP life DoBRP
final fantasy epic RPG-hell of an RPG...
COT RPG-everyone remember this baby right?
castle builder-hell fun army map
castle builder highlands-same idea but in the snow (the new one)
city builder-what happend to this? it was good but died away...
argekely TD (i think this is the name)-the first TD we ever seen...from the RoC time...old but hell fun and still the best TD
custom hero arena-if they fix some bugs and add a few more abilitys it will be superb!(it is really good allrdy)
pass the bomb-silly and fun...nothing more...
uthers party-the one with the tons and the winner pick games is so much fun
groms party-a twist to uthers party that died...was a little better...
golems revolotion-graet tactics (unlike some people think it is ONLY about tactics)
warchasers-a blizzard made RPG that is really good
azure tower defence-more blizzard map...
blizzard tower defence-juss who made it??? hard but fun!

 

[xXPoLiSh_DuDeXx]

Dota is if not the best AOS out there, but call me biased since I moderate the official DotA Forums.

I've played many AOS's and the only one that come close to Dota is battleships, and thats completely different style!

All other AOS's I've played feel incomplete or half assed to me(Pretty much VG's Me tooism example). Dota feels complete due to the hero balance, item balance, and actually needing teamwork in many ways. No other AOS comes close to Dota's Balance that use 70 freaking heros. There is always one hero with a broken skill that has no counter. Dota has very detailed depth in characters that different playstyles and item builds may make-or-break a character. Other AOS's have usually one super item and one super hero that combined get 500 kills in a row and solo the enemy base. In Dota, you can't solo the base unless your 2 hours into the game with litterally 2x better items then everyone else.

Also dota requires tons of teamwork, its not just get 500 kills, but you have to decide. Go as a group of 5 and Teamkill everyone, or do concentrated pushing in a lane. Also it has variety. Most AOS's I've seen have limited characters/spells/items, which hinders the whole AOS genre. Dota has over 70 heros, About 100 items, and many many spells, All this adds that a single hero can fight at least 3 different ways, for any situation.

The thing hindering dota from new players is its PUB community. They don't understand the meaning of dota. All they do is yell "OMG NOOB" and think the point of the game is getting 1000 kills. If you go into TDA Dota Gaming, or Inhouse games, you realize the depth in strategy in this game, certain enemy line-ups require certain playstyles make each game different and non-repetative.

I can go on, but thats enough for now.

 

[Thanatos]

Dota is if not the best AOS out there, but call me biased since I moderate the official DotA Forums.

I've played many AOS's and the only one that come close to Dota is battleships, and thats completely different style!

All other AOS's I've played feel incomplete or half assed to me(Pretty much VG's Me tooism example). Dota feels complete due to the hero balance, item balance, and actually needing teamwork in many ways. No other AOS comes close to Dota's Balance that use 70 freaking heros. There is always one hero with a broken skill that has no counter. Dota has very detailed depth in characters that different playstyles and item builds may make-or-break a character. Other AOS's have usually one super item and one super hero that combined get 500 kills in a row and solo the enemy base. In Dota, you can't solo the base unless your 2 hours into the game with litterally 2x better items then everyone else.

Also dota requires tons of teamwork, its not just get 500 kills, but you have to decide. Go as a group of 5 and Teamkill everyone, or do concentrated pushing in a lane. Also it has variety. Most AOS's I've seen have limited characters/spells/items, which hinders the whole AOS genre. Dota has over 70 heros, About 100 items, and many many spells, All this adds that a single hero can fight at least 3 different ways, for any situation.

The thing hindering dota from new players is its PUB community. They don't understand the meaning of dota. All they do is yell "OMG NOOB" and think the point of the game is getting 1000 kills. If you go into TDA Dota Gaming, or Inhouse games, you realize the depth in strategy in this game, certain enemy line-ups require certain playstyles make each game different and non-repetative.

I can go on, but thats enough for now.

He spoke everything that I always wanted to speak :lol:

And you also cannot say that DotA is unbalanced, because the balancement is in the fact that you can Own the game with every Hero, you only need to discover the Hero-style and the best items to do to the Hero.
Each Hero has a completely different playstyle and it really makes dota an excellent and non-repetative map.
I always play DotA with my friends in the battle net, everyday we play at least 1 game of DotA. When you play with peoples that do not leaves the game and that really play well, you see that DotA is really incomparable to any other AOS map.

 

[Infected]

I enjoy playing dota and I hate when people, like you los_taco, who only joins games of dota to destroy for others, who like to play a serious match. Why join if u dont want to play? It isnt very funny when I create game after game to play a good game, and every time people just leave to make it a bad game.
So dont join if you dont want to play and play to the end!
//Infected

 

[alexis_axel]

Balance? There's no such thing about balance in dotA

The only interesting thing from dotA only the sounds when you kill another player

And we find the truth that the maker steals it from unreal tournament.

A lot of people that play dotA never know how to play warcraft 3. such a mess

 

[Thanatos]

Yeah, the map is very balanced, but, can turn into an unbalanced map when playing with noobs and leavers.
Normally, public games is very unbalanced because these 2 kinds of fucking players, NOOBS and QUITERS.
When you confront a noob enemy you will fast evolve by killing this player and become stronger than the other players.
It doesn't implicate to say that the map is unbalanced, the correct phrase is PRO players own the NOOB players, this is the correct term.

 

[xerlaz]

I think Dota is shit. i played it ONCE and it took me ages to get it couse most of time the game says DOTA Version 98712943721034 couse there is so MANY! No download. And dont even tell you where to get it from. Like somone said ealier 3/4 of the games R DOTA tft is good but not so good now with all these nerds like ''Dota is god'' What heppend to the clasic maps like Dobrp and Cot Rpg and more. If you ask me Dota has CURROPTED TFT! :shock:

 

[Infected]

xerlaz, I have all dota maps between v5.84 and v6.27b. On ALL these maps in the map description, loading screen and in game (3 places which is hard to miss) it reads where to get the newest version of the map. So I dont really belive in you saying that it doesnt. Secondly, playing a map ONCE and say it sucks is stupid, as you cant make a honestly judgement of a dota-like map by only playing it once as it is over 60 heroes, 10 modes and 2 sides. It takes some matches to realize that the map indeed is very balanced, bugfree and very very fun.

 

[HyperNox]

DotA is what the general public wants, Powergameing ppl want to "PWN" the shit out of ppl and in dota that is possible for most of the heroes. Most ppl here probably wont agree that its a great map because they get yellous that dota allstars is hosted 3/4 games on B.net. I hate it too but still you can hide from the fact that its a great map all those ppl hosting it cant be wrong.

 

[Blade.dk2]

DotA is what the general public wants, Powergameing ppl want to "PWN" the **** out of ppl and in dota that is possible for most of the heroes. Most ppl here probably wont agree that its a great map because they get yellous that dota allstars is hosted 3/4 games on B.net. I hate it too but still you can hide from the fact that its a great map all those ppl hosting it cant be wrong.

Jealous? No. Sick? Yes.

Yeah, DotA is what the bloody majority wants, but that doesn't make it good. It's HORRIBLY unbalanced, it uses stuff without credits, it doesn't involve strategy of any kind. No thank you, if I should play an AoS map I would take Blades and Billets.

Again, because lots of people hosts it it isn't great, it was like if all people said that the only way to become clean was to take a roll in the dirt, just because many people says it it isn't true.

And Infected, good job reviving the thread.

 

[Rui]

Age of Myths is much better than DotA. All said.

-Rui

 

[Nasrudin]

Age of Myths is much better than DotA. All said.

-Rui

I'm sure Cassiel would agree on that >_>

 

[DurotarLord]

OK I AM NOW GOING TO LIST SOME PROS AND CONS TO DOTA!!!

Pros:
Dota has over 70 heroes!!! that means that u can continue to play the game for a long time and always try something new. This helps to keep the game enjoyable over time.
Dota has many items which a lot of AoS type games fail at. You can combine items for recipes and turn your hero into a god.
Lots of cool spells and models.

Cons:
ICEFROG STOLE A LOT OF THOSE MODELS AND SPELLS FROM WC3SEAR.CH AND DIDNT GIVE CREDIT TO THE CREATORS!! Icefrog is indead a fag who stole from a good website and refused to let anyone know that other people made those models and spells.
No matter what people say some heros are unbalanced. By the same note though it is a physical impossiblity to perfectly balance a game. It is a process that would take several generations of non-stop gaming and as such is impossible.
The items are very imbalanced. Some items are godlike others just suck.
Heres something i bet u guys didnt know, icefrog didnt do the Dota terrain. He had some other guys do it for him and never put them in credits. now maybe he added them in a really recent version, i dont know but no matter what icefrog didnt do his own maps terrain and then didnt give the actual terrainers credits.
Dota has a searious lack of cool things in the game, Example: In EotA a player has several camera angles, commands that tell them how much damage their spells are doing and most heroes in it have at least one spell that is effected by the heros attributes. Dota has different game modes that only player 1 gets to decide on...

All in all i think dota doesnt suck but its not really that fun... the worst thing about dota is its comunity who are easily angered fags.

 

[alexis_axel]

The last time i check this map it was very 1000x unbalanced, all heroes really2 imbalance, while others have fuckin' great stas and the other have really screwed stats.

Icefrog is really idiots, does he even know what the meaning of balance? All he doing is reducing, reducing and reducing.

 

[LeviathanReborn]

Why people like to play DotA is becoz they get to own others thru that imbalanced game...

 

[Thanatos]

DotA is unbalanced for noobs that played it once or twice and don't know how to play, than, plays with who is PRO and then say "the map is unbalanced"! :evil:
DotA is very unbalanced for those who knows play, the most balanced map of War3 even made.
You all may hate Icefrog nd Guinsoo that they really are thiefs that gives no credits to anyone, but, if you don't like the creator, you cannot swear the map. The creator may be a **** girl, but the map is the best of war3 without any doubt.
A GREAT DIVERSITY OF HEROES AND ITEMS, STRATEGIES, BALANCEMENTS AND VERY VERY FUN, IS IT THAT DOTA OFFERS TO EVERYONE THAT KNOW PLAY!

 

[Blade.dk2]

DotA is unbalanced for noobs that played it once or twice and don't know how to play, than, plays with who is PRO and then say "the map is unbalanced"! :evil:
DotA is very unbalanced for those who knows play, the most balanced map of War3 even made.
You all may hate Icefrog nd Guinsoo that they really are thiefs that gives no credits to anyone, but, if you don't like the creator, you cannot swear the map. The creator may be a **** girl, but the map is the best of war3 without any doubt.
A GREAT DIVERSITY OF HEROES AND ITEMS, STRATEGIES, BALANCEMENTS AND VERY VERY FUN, IS IT THAT DOTA OFFERS TO EVERYONE THAT KNOW PLAY!

Dota sucks so much that my english is not good enough to describe it, and if it was I would be banned for it.

If you like AOS-style maps, try something good such as Blades & Billets (my favourite map ever).

 

[Thanatos]

DotA is very unbalanced for those who knows play...

Ops, "very balanced"

 

[Blade.dk2]

DotA is very unbalanced for those who knows play...

Ops, "very balanced"

You obviously does not know what the word balance means.

Dota is, hate it or love it, not balanced at all. Yes it has, what, over 60 heroes? That's the problem = Dota is build over the QUANTITY over QUALITY concept, which means that the heroes' spells sucks, doesn't fits the heroes, and are unbalanced to the extreme.

 

[Azazel_]

Interesting thread. For me, I play DotA because it's simply easy to get a game going with full players and there is a sense of familiarity, for better or worse.

 

[GOGETA]

I think that dota is great

 

[ben_xuereb]

if you want a great AOS play nantuko husk's war of the damned thats awsome you can actualy upgrade ya spawns in it rather then like dota the spawns are just free money also i got told VG helped him a bit

 

[falcoknight]

Dota is by far the most boring game i have ever played.. yet i see like the entire screen filled with DOTA games.. like wtf is the deal?