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Why is all this anime crap so popular?

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by danzig666, Nov 19, 2005.

  1. VGsatomi

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    Well, (Japanese) games and anime are essentially the same industry. Quite often people who work on games also work on anime and vice versa. For example, some members of Studio Ghibli (makers of Princess Mononoke, ect) also worked on the Jade Cacoon RPG series, hence why you see so many similarities in art and theme in that series to the movies produced by that studio.
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  2. Raiju

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    not to mention the anime-based games...

    i havent been very updated on anime lately because i dont have access to it from now...

    so i can only talk about the old good ones...before pokemon was ever been imagined....
     
  3. Almost_there

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    Pokemon is shit not anime
     
  4. Sansui

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    why do peoplr always assume im talking about american anime when i say it sucks.


    ive never seen american anime i have however seen jap anime, because of a few of my study partners.


    and spirited away and princess monoke sucked bad they were as bas as resident evil games and movies.

    by the way most western action movies suck aswell.
     
  5. Leopard

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    G_ddamn I hate anime. I hate its art style much.

    You know, I TRY to love them, some of my friends who are anime freak always gives me recommendation about which anime or manga that are good.

    I care about it, then I copy several anime and manga to my harddisk, read it and watch it, and after least then 24 hour I'm really bored and delete all that **** out from my HD. I don't know, it's complicated beetwen headache because of its awful style and stomachache because its lame storyline.

    In fact, i don't like any drama serial or any serial movies, bcause it gives serial boring.

    More than that, I hate the people who are so freak about anime and manga.

    I agree with Sansui, all anime geek are some kind of weirdo. Worst of all, all these geeks always draw any picture in anime style, showing it to the others geek, and praise each other s*** stuff , while there are many art style instead of anime.

    They just become a 'follower' and lose their own 'style'.

    Actually, I hate any kind of geek, geek sucks arse!
     
  6. Sansui

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    your taking it a little far.

    i said people who dress likeanime people are weird...
    just like people who dress like any movie character besides on certain events.


    i dont hate geeks nor consider people who like anime geeks.

    i just dont understand how people can like anime so much... its just like the "punk" and "ghetto" styles anymore.
     
  7. Leopard

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    Well then, I said anime geek is a weirdo. I hate them.

    I don't know about people who like dressing like anime, or dressing like a movie character, I don't find much of them here.

    But here, in Indonesia, since it is a part of Asia, I found much anime geek even just in my classroom.

    Firstly, I think it just me who said anime geek sucks, but after that, i know several person who don't like anime geek to, and several person who like anime, but not as geek as them. Several girls also agree with me, that anime geek is such a weirdo.

    Actually, I hate people who dress like anime character, movie character, movie star, hip-hoppers, metal death, or any s*** like that. They just lose theirselves.

    And punk is not about dressing like s***, it's about ATTITUDE. Watch it.
     
  8. Daelin

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    Ok, too much blabla for me to look around but I'll tell you my opinion about animes.

    There are anime for small children, and anime for other people. Take Pokemon, Digimon, Sailor Moon and other such animes. YES, I used to watch these all when I was a child and I even have Sailor Moon on CDs and from time to time it feels good to look at an episode or two, because it reminds me of cool stuff I used to do in the past. These are the "cartoons" of my childhood and I will not forget them. Oh, and I now hate Pokemon. :p

    On the other hand, there are animes with such themes and action, that I could hardly believe that they are made for children. I recently saw "Ayashi no Ceres" and to be honest, I was quite shocked of what I saw. Everybody slept with everybody, even though it wasn't porn or something. In the beginning it seemed like it was a soft anime, until a lot of people started to die in an awful way, and well, yeah, the everyone with everyone stuff. Heh, I'm exaggerating a little but that one is surely not an anime for kids.

    And I find animes an original thing. Just because you found crappy animes or those from the first cattegory (some of which indeed suck, but others are cool ;)) doesn't mean that all animes suck. Just because you don't like something, doesn't mean that that thing must really suck, because a lot of people like animes. If animes would've been so bad, nobody would've watched them.

    Ok, and getting to the "people who get dressed like characters in animes", ok, I understand that some kids might do that. But it's pathetic. Yes, it's fun to watch it, but that's it. Don't push it! Don't turn an anime into an obsession. It is just a movie and nothing else. It's cool to dream, but... not lead that to extreme.

    You would be surprised to see how many people watch animes, and have clubs of animes and stuff like that. Even here in Cluj-Napoca there is a club (I think... I saw something on the internet when I was looking for a music theme) but I personally find the "time sparing" into such a club a waste of time. Ok, maybe people in that club exchange opinions about different animes and even exchange animes but I'm not that attracted to animes. I rarely watch one (I have a friend who is an anime maniac and has hundreds of CDs with animes taken from Torrent) and he sometimes gives me some so that I can watch when I have some time and I feel like... But that's it. No obsession, just entertainment.

    Oh, and I almost forgot... I loved "Spirited Away" and "Howl's Castle" movies. Those are the only anime movies I've seen (non-series) and I really liked them. As for series, my fav remains Sailor Moon. It has some cool ideas and some funny parts. :D It's probably because I didn't see many other series... :p

    ~Daelin
     
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    This thread attracts moderaters... lol
     
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    and the most important thing is that this thread attracts Teppana!
    to be honest this is only thread I even have willpower to even look at

    I don't even know why am I wasting my time in Wc3search :shock:

    Pokimónmón Rocks! ^^
    thou shalt agree with thine superior! :mrgreen:
     
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    wrong again, pokemon is a crap, but its still anime. know your facts
     
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    Okay, what I'm trying to get at here is that people should not generalize by simply saying "all anime sucks." Given that there is as much diversity in anime as there is in normal movies, saying anime sucks is like saying "all movies suck" since anime is not a genre in its self, but contains all the genres that normal movie catagories have. And if you think all movies suck, then I guess media entertainment is simply not for you, and should bother to respond to topics like these.
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    all anime sucks. i dont enjoy watching drawings do things, never did. plus i do not consider anime "MOVIES" i think of them as Cartoons, or animations. A movie to me consists of real people being videotaped with things that look real so 3d animations that are realistic or photo real drawings could work..
     
  14. VGsatomi

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    So a movie is not a movie just by the format of the media in which the movie was made is different then the norm? Silly. A movie is defined as a "motion picture". Whether the frames are pictures of live actors or pictures of drawn cells makes no real differance.
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    Interesting point, i never saw anime like movies...

    i always saw them as cartoon, its hard to say say this in a way you understand it but i see anime to laugh and entertain myself, not that do not entetain with movies, its just that i prefer a whole role of action movies rather than anime. i just like anime who got all those fantasies, powers and laughable situations.

    wanna know what? i like them both, just see them in different ways. and stop talking about "all anime is crap", this is a dumb afirmative
     
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    Not too serious point of view:
    - Some animes are crap
    - But some animes are so incredibly good.
    - I find that some americans dislike anime just because it wasn't made on their country, sad but true.
    - I like some US cartoons too but some of them are crap.



    Serious point of view:

    Every single thing on the TV sucks, I find it actually childish to say "All Anime Sucks " or "All anime is crap" and give reasons that work for everything out there.

    Let me name Reality Shows, The teletubbies, "Cartoon Cartoons" , "Sesame Street" . bunch of crap the TV is just crap, everybody migrate to the web!

    In fact the web itself is incredibly full of crap and anybody with 1 year of experience or more on internet navigation should be sure about it.

    Movies? No thanks.

    Computer Games? hahahaha.

    It is dumb, to expect "realism" from the TV, not even the news broadcasts are realistic, specially if you live in the US.

    Anime is a waste of time? Duh, enternainment is another way to say "Waste of time" so better live with that or start reading books before saying things like all anime sucks because it is unrealistic.

    And latelly there are a bunch of books that suck too, Is anybody body else tired of "You can do it as long as you trust on yourself" Cliche books? I am , those things should be burned to hell, and their authors castrated.


    What about fuck ing Harry Potter? damn, nobody cares about his balls of fire or whatever, please and that was actually a book? And don't make me talk about Lotr and Starwars, useless crap.

    "Cultural" Movies? Yeah sure according to the film critics, those guys actually seem to love all the other kind of Movie garbage including: Romantic Movies, Movies about suicide, Movies about homosexual relationships, Movies about abortion, Drama.

    Bunch of wastes of time.

    And I could continue judging everything else but I have to sleep I have classes at 8:00 AM, talking about wasting my time.
     
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    Vex you right tht most things but you take several things way to far.
    I agree that lotr and star wars suck and i agree that reality tv and all that garbage sucks. but i can honestly say in my opinion ALL ANIME sucks.


    prove to me how any of it is better than an actual movie.

    how can poorly drawn cartoons be better than a live film, if both are supposedly good quality.


    and yes this is a waste of time, but im on vacation so take that no anime club bastads to deal with for a week!

    honestly half of those kids dont shower. and the other half think they ARE the characters from the shows... just like the D&D club scary sight.

    anywho its all good till you take it too far... just like "punk", and "ghetto"
     
  18. VGsatomi

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    Well, to do that you would actually have to WATCH the ones I recommend...and I'm sure I would know your answer to that.

    But here's some other facts; the Japanese are every bit movie fans as Americans. Before the release of princess Mononoke, E.T was the hight grossing movie in Japan. Aftrer being taken by Mononoke, it was beaten that same year by Titanic. (E.T. was also the highest grossing movie in thr US before Titanic) Since then Spirited Away smashed Titanic's record. So 2 of Japan's top 4 money making theater movies were anime. And before you say "well who cares about Japan", let it be know that they, though perfectly legel means, get our movies in the theaters before we do. And, in perspective to population, movies earn as much in Japan as they do here per capita.

    Here's a list of the top 25 gossing movies in the US. Tell me how many of them are animated. You may not think of them as good as live action, but its undeniable that they are just as successful.

    http://list-of-highest-grossing-films.borgfind.com/

    And as for anime, here's what was said about Spirited Away, Japan's most successful movie;

    You can get the full story here:

    http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/02/03/DDGHFB40EG1.DTL

    I agree that about 90% of all anime is really not that good. There are a lot of copycats that follow everyone elses or over-explored themes, making for predictability, and some developers lack real creativity. But the remainaing 10% are real gems, and those are what I collect.
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    And yet again I agree with VGsatomi.
     
  20. Sansui

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    i have one thing to say... millions loved hitler.

    millions love saddam...
    millions love kim jong...
    millions upon millions love ddr... and it sucks.

    il gladly give any film you recommend a chance,but

    if there was a good anime, and a real movie of the exact same thing which was not cheezy but very well done and good which would you consider better?