What is wrong with DotA?

[~Void~]

I was wondering why people hate DotA. I kinda like it, it's not my favorite game out there but I think it's a pretty well-made map and if you play with friends it can be really fun and exciting.

 

[donut3.5]

The only reason why I dislike it is due to the people who play it being jackasses a lot of the time, but I don't mind it too much. I play it a lot, and its quite fun.
--donut3.5--

 

[TheDivineBoss]

Third party tools getting overwhored, takes 50% of the space in the Gamelist (G) and has always those stupid two modes (from the 50 or something) ''adem and sdem''.

 

[redmarine]

I dislike people who play it because they really act like Jackjasses. But my main reason is that it takes up too much space on the customlist. The map is OK but I dislike the DotA community.

 

[ike_ike]

The map itself is awesome. And the community in general is rather nice as well. The problem is that people buy Frozen Throne just to play DotA, who bring their flaming and noobish ways to Warcraft.

 

[frostwhisper]

The people, definitely.

 

[skrab]

I hate the people who play it.
Leavers mostly...

 

[X.e.r.e.X]

Yeah I hate the freaking leavers and those stupid people who has Phantom Assassin and has scores 48358925-0 and they spam "xaxaxaxaxaxax" for some unknown reason lol -.-'

 

[emperor_d3st]

There are too many retarded people playing dota.

There are the noobs entering a game titled 'pro' or 'skilled', there are the leavers, the emo leavers ("oh, I got killed, f* u all, bye"), the infinitely ignorant ("I'm too lazy to spend 2 minutes from my life to read a list what the different game modes are about") the stupid flamers and so on. Against these the 3rd party tool, banlist can offer some protection, but not much.

Imbalances: There are some heroes the player doesn't have to do anything with but to click the right mouse button to attack and they just harvest the kills without any effort (Razor, for example). There are some heroes with highly imbalanced skills, for example: Moon Rider (Luna) - An ultimate attack of 3000 magic damage... It's not even channeling or something. Or the former Phantom Assassin, as already mentioned.

Dota can be fun though, just make sure you play with people you know and don't enter ap/sd/ar and ANY -easymode games. The most balanced and most retard-free modes are -rd / -lm / -xl.

 

[TheDivineBoss]

A good DotA is a non-DotA.

 

[D a w n]

I think DotA is nice,but the problem is that there are a lot of people who behave like idiots.

For example those who leave when they died for the first time, those flamers and those who say after some1 left " Oh noes!!11He eft!1!!!! banned!!!!" because those who left the game could create a new username anyway D:

 

[Gizmo III]

DotA is fun.. But the community sucks, i know..

Still, the gameplay is brilliant ! Heroes aren't imbalanced, depends on how good you are at using the different heroes.. Some heroes are easier to use than others, but not necessarily better.. Just don't feed.. XD

 

[Razorbrain]

the people playing it

i dont mind the heroes though, those that are considered "imbalanced" are often really that good becouse of the opponents they are facing, not the heroes themselfs

 

[emperor_d3st]

Good players with a little dignity don't really pick imbalanced/easymode heroes but when you play against an equally skilled player who's with one of those you'll see the difference. I also hate the league lane-picks. Crix / Omni, for example. I don't like to play to win, I like to play to have fun but sometimes it's rock/paper/scissors. An easy win is no victory, but losing in a close match is a little victory.
I wouldn't call the gameplay brilliant, it's good and simple, but not brilliant.

 

[Kwah]

What do I hate about DOTA?




Everything!


It rips off all of it's spells, gives no credit and every one is a moron!!!


DOTA < PIG

 

[emperor_d3st]

Yeah, the lack of credits really bugs me... It's disguisting and I get sick of people always comparing everything to Dota like it was the very first specimen of its genre.

 

[HappyTauren]

There ARE credits for dota, they are in DISABLED TRIGGER in PROTECTED MAP with .WTG file being removed. Just... retarded?

 

[emperor_d3st]

Is that really true or did you just made it up?

 

[HappyTauren]

no, it is true, also, there is "misccredits.txt" or something, file on getdota.com
ike_ike knows more about this, so ask him.

 

[ike_ike]

http://www.getdota.com/MiscCredits.txt
Kinda like a who's who of Warcraft modding. Except for a noticeable lack of model imports. There are also more extensive credits given in the changelogs, and there's an archive of the logs hiding somewhere...

 

[TheDivineBoss]

I think DotA must be tied up, eggs down it's throat, ductape over it and be anally humilated.

 

[~Void~]

There ARE credits for dota, they are in DISABLED TRIGGER in PROTECTED MAP with .WTG file being removed. Just... retarded?

They have a list on the forums. That should be enough :\

 

[Dakho]

I wouldn't mind DotA. I mean I don't really like AoS's but it has some of the best triggered spells out there.
However, it's just completely overtaken battle.net, and that means less angel arena and winter maul for meh. Also, the people there are elitist jackasses. Honestly... banlists? really? it's nearly impossible to break into the game without pissing off hundreds of people.

And also, I never thought it was very balanced, the majority of games I've played, the ancients win.

 

[Idontlikeu]

DOTA is overplayed, confusing, and too be honest, over done...also, people cannot tell that DOTA is too damn old now...since I played it when it first came out and never since ...and people hated the shit out of it then, and noone hosted it, now everyone does...WTF

 

[emperor_d3st]

Confusing? It has a simple gameplay. The perfect use of some abilities require some imagination but even a noob could handle every one of them on an ok level.

Also, the people there are elitist jackasses.

I assume you have entered a game titled professional or skilled and you got flamed and you deserved it.

 

[Archimondus]

Dota must die...
IceFrog must die...
That free template of Dota on the Helper.net World Editor Tutorials must die...

 

[Vicboy]

When I played Counterstrike with my friends, we were all laughing, when it comes to DotA, they get pissed.

 

[Razorbrain]

Dota must die...
IceFrog must die...
That free template of Dota on the Helper.net World Editor Tutorials must die...

its not IceFrogs fault DotA exists.....

 

[TheDivineBoss]

Actually it is, he made it what it is right now: POPULAIR.


/anger

 

[Razorbrain]

ehm, how can dota be existing becouse its popular?

 

[redmarine]

ehm, how can dota be existing becouse its popular?

Popularity is what gives it life. By taking its popularity or lowering it we should be able to slay the beast.

 

[Razorbrain]

okay, let me rephrase that

ehm, how can dota have been created becouse its popular?

 

[redmarine]

okay, let me rephrase that

ehm, how can dota have been created becouse its popular?

If it sucked no one would update it. If no one would play it then it would be dead.
DoTA is well known across the world and has become a E-sport... Popularity really plays a vital role.

 

[Razorbrain]

you are still missing the point

DotA couldnt have been created by popularity, since it wouldnt have existed

 

[emperor_d3st]

Dota is the Paris Hilton of Warcraft 3.

 

[TheDivineBoss]

More like a Amy Winehouse.

 

[redmarine]

you are still missing the point

DotA couldnt have been created by popularity, since it wouldnt have existed

I didn't say it was created by popularity. If I did then Oops.

 

[Razorbrain]

dont worry, i should have made myself more clear

"Dota is the Paris Hilton of Warcraft 3."

QFT

Everyone has had a piece of that

 

[Steel_Stallion]

Dota's is one of the most balanced AoS games, its a fine game. Stop bashing it. Its the people it attracts that piss me off.

 

[Turtle Monkey]

Me no likee Dota

i just dont like dota or the people who play it i dont like DOE eaither the only map series liek it taht i like is Bships

 

[emperor_d3st]

Well, you are right, Steel_Stalion, there are some soo obvious imbalances in the game though.. I guess IceFrog has his favourite heroes. Dota would be a fine game without the retards but you can't really have a fine game free of retards on B.Net, can you?

 

[Lestat(br)]

DotA is a great map, it is the perfection of modding, not very creative though.
What bothers me on DotA that sometimes I think that DotA avoid other maps to be played. It gathered a dumb community over the years, and people should stop being stubborn and know it isn't everything in bnet custom games.

 

[HappyTauren]

DotA is a great map, it is the perfection of modding, not very creative though.
What bothers me on DotA that sometimes I think that DotA avoid other maps to be played. It gathered a dumb community over the years, and people should stop being stubborn and know it isn't everything in bnet custom games.

made me laugh. DoE Is thousands of times better scripted than DotA, in fact, most TRIGGERS in DotA are in GUI.

 

[Sabertooth]

I just...don't really like it.
I never really did like DotA. I used to love Aeon of 6 Gods and shit back on RoC though. =X
Voted DoE > DotA though, I'm one of those people. (Who added that pole option? xD)

 

[Redeemer59]

I didn't vote because I could only choose one option, but...

To me it was a very mediocre map. Not bad, but has some balance and game-play issues. However, it takes up half, if not more than half the space in the custom games list, all of it's players are assholes, and from what I hear the creators/updaters/whateveryoudangkidscallthemthesedays are too.

Basically, it's hard for new names to get recognized due to it, and it breeds anger and elitism.

Although the AoS genre isn't the best of genres, I've seen better AoSs, although if it had a decent community and playing it in private didn't mean I supported the game itself I might play it every once in a while. As is, however, no.

 

[Emperor_Jackal]

made me laugh. DoE Is thousands of times better scripted than DotA, in fact, most TRIGGERS in DotA are in GUI.

Oh really, last time I checked from a guy that unlocked a slightly older version of DotA, all the triggers were in JASS

 

[redmarine]

Oh really, last time I checked from a guy that unlocked a slightly older version of DotA, all the triggers were in JASS

I believe some map protections convert GUI triggers to Jass to protect and reduce file size. But for map like DoTA I would think that they would have written all in Jass for more efficiency.

 

[emperor_d3st]

Emperor_Jackal. Oh really? Last time I checked map protections and optimizers removed all the GUI crap triggers from the protected/optimized maps.
It's really easy to notice if a trigger was converted from inferior GUI trash to JASS since GUI adds a lot of useless shit to the code, so if a JASSer says that DotA was written in GUI after seeing the deprotected map just believe him.

 

[HappyTauren]

Oh really, last time I checked from a guy that unlocked a slightly older version of DotA, all the triggers were in JASS

Desert of Exile has been scripted by best JASSers alive, while dota has s huge shitload of GUI shit. And if you have no clue what you are talking about, please, shut up.

OMG DOTA HAS STACKIN' SYSTM MADE IN GUI ZOMFG

 

[Sworddragon]

What is NOT wrong with DoTA?
It's horribly made and central against certain tactics.
Stuns? WHY DO YOU ADD STUNS!? Stuns are HORRIBLE! They STOP ALL MOVEMANT AND SPELLS.
Stuns give no tactical abilities. A team could go all stunners and easily own people.
And the game is WAYYY TOOOO CENTRALLLIZZEEDD around items. My friend plays a few games of EACH version and says, "This version FAILS, horribly."
Why do people play it? What is the AGE GROUP of the DoTA Players? Know what? I'll make a topic off that!