Warlock 1.01b

[copsychus]

Maybe we need somebody to update warlock 095

 

[Vex]

4.5/5

Great (unique?) game concept. Reminds me of Liero (Worms) or Tanks, except for the knockback aspect that plays a big role here. Absolutely love it!

I have some suggestions to consider or discuss. Not saying they are improvements, just open ideas.

- Reduce the effect of knockback gain on higher levels.
Why?
I think it plays a too big role during late games, and that a better balance between damage taken from spells and damage taken from lava would improve the gameplay.

- Change arena mechanics. By this I mean having a Colosseum like arena with a center platform surrounded by walls and no lava zone.
Why?
Main reason is visuals. This idea enables the arena edges to have a lot of doodads that are visible to, but not in the way of the players during the whole match.
What about the lava?
The lava appears by removal of floor plates after time passes (just like how the current island shrinks).
What about the walls and knockback?
I realize there will be less lava space when there are walls around it. To compensate for this, players hitting the wall are stunned for a duration based on the speed they had. During this time, they will take damage from the lava. This will be a nerf in some ways, mostly to some spells like teleport, rush and displacement. On the other hand, it buffs the curse reduction item attribute (reduced stun duration).

- Game-mode suggestion.
Battle Royale.
Look at the arena like a chessboard. After n seconds, a random square is picked and turned into lava. This process must support the condition that by removing a square x, the remainng squares must all be connected. This is to prevent players from ending up on separated square-islands. This process goes on until there is only 1 safe square left.
Random events
Could be an option that can be toggled on/off. Since it is a Colosseum ish arena, a lot of things can be sent out to the arena either from trap-doors on the walls, from hidden passages in the floor plates or cast from the spectator area. Spells, animals, monsters, objects (rocks, power-ups, health boost, poison vial, rotten tomatoes, bombs etc.).

 

[Icedrake]

Contrary to popular belief here, I found that this map is still being updated. If you look on their forums, you'll see a topic there with the latest developments on 0.96. A new test version of 0.96 was released today: http://warlockbrawl.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=462&start=220.

Good to see one of my favorite WC3 maps is still under work.

 

[Moonmage]

updated today

 

[dragonslarger]

amazing 5/5
but it will be nice if u upload some screenshots

click link below to help
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/idea-factory-462/need-models-attachment-links-185487/

 

[Icedrake]

Awesome, an update! Nvm, change log is on the Warlock website.

 

[SasuhKun]

A great game indeed.

 

[Arisato]

in my opinion, only this map can be compared with dota..

 

[Baintastic]

This is a fantastic game!! I play it all the time with my brothers.
A couple suggestions:

1. I'm sure this is a common suggestion, but AI would be great for this game as a group of people could play a team match against AI to reduce frustration of one person dominating.

2. I would love to see more spells. I have a theory that you could use the rally ability (it would be the default right-click action) to determine where the warlock would move instead of using the default move-to ability which takes up 4 icon spaces (move, defend, patrol, stop). Seeing as the movement in this game is all JASS-driven, I don't think this would be too difficult and it would free up 3 more spaces for spells . If this is confusing I would be glad to explain further.

btw +rep 5/5 etc.

 

[SasuhKun]

Nice idea. Although having more spells... have a lot of chaotic consequences. But then again, we'll see.

 

[Baintastic]

true, but in the very least, I would like to see the command buttons reorganized to the top row. then maybe even change the hotkeys for the spells to be ASDF/ZXCV to correspond to the screen. veteran players probably wouldn't like this at first, but I think they would eventually like it... or maybe I just want all maps to handle hotkeys like Assassins

 

[SasuhKun]

I've seen quite some maps now that uses QWERT hotkeys. A Naruto AoS, for example, which name escapes me. And having Warlock uses QWERT, or ASDF, or whatever other combinations would be REALLY nice.

 

[copsychus]

I think it's not nice because there are 8 skills inluding firebolt and short range skill.

so QWERT +DFG? no i think not. i think the key for now is easily press than this one.

 

[Baintastic]

I think it's not nice because there are 8 skills inluding firebolt and short range skill.

so QWERT +DFG? no i think not. i think the key for now is easily press than this one.

I still stand by my statement. ASDF/ZXCV would be fantastic. And in SasuhKun's case, I think he was thinking QWER/ASDF, not QWERT/DFG. It IS possible to change the hotkeys for standard movement icons.

 

[SasuhKun]

Whatever works is fine.

 

[copsychus]

How can choose for ASDF?

S is stop button , am i right?

 

[Garfield1337]

How can choose for ASDF?

S is stop button , am i right?

You can change the commands' hotkeys.

 

[Baintastic]

You can change the commands' hotkeys.

exactly.

 

[Super-Sheep]

But you need to make 8+ different Firebolts then.

Because it could be Q, W, E, R or other key...

And then count all spells like 20x8? And then triggers. Noty.

 

[Baintastic]

But you need to make 8+ different Firebolts then.

Because it could be Q, W, E, R or other key...

And then count all spells like 20x8? And then triggers. Noty.

Changing the hotkeys wouldn't affect the spells at all... You would just need to change the icon placement and their hotkeys...

 

[Super-Sheep]

I thought that you mean like...

If you buy Firebolt first, it will use Q. Then the second spell you purchase will use W.

 

[Baintastic]

I thought that you mean like...

If you buy Firebolt first, it will use Q. Then the second spell you purchase will use W.

no, I was thinking that the spells would have preset hotkeys much like they do now, except they would be QWER/ASDF instead of ERTY/DFG/C and they would correspond to where the spells are located on the screen. ie.
[Q][W][E][R]
[A][D][F]

 

[TDA]

Love the map and all...

But I think the Score board is buged

Whenever someone leaves the game, the points get all messed up.

 

[copsychus]

The creator will fix in the next version 097

 

[copsychus]

Need someone to update Warlock 097 from www.warlockbrawl.com

 

[Moonmage]

Added it,no worries. Have to sleep as well

 

[Magnet199]

I love this map :d
been playing it from 099 *.*

 

[cazador]

The WarlockBrawl.com page seems dead, do anyone know what happens?

And, do anyone know where can I download now the Custom Terrain Editor? (warlockbrawl.com not working...)

 

[mugu]

There is some league of warlock?
I love this map, but I don't find any competition of this.

 

[cazador]

There is some league of warlock?
I love this map, but I don't find any competition of this.

Yay, search for it in the warlockbrawl.com forum (yay the web is back on)

 

[Wave]

There is some league of warlock, you can look at them wat warlockbrawl.com

It may also happen that the website is down, causing it to be unaccessable during a couple of days. Try again later, it might be back up.

For competition, there are several clans for this map.

Clan LoWs, Clan N0va (UsEast)

Clan Sexi and clan Wow (Europe).

 

[copsychus]

The main skills "Fireball" changed , so i need to find a new combo . . .

 

[koufobekrhs]

rush's phoenix mode is not viable (its description)plz fix this ,it is accessible thou
(edited)

 

[Admiral Flint]

I believe the hotkeys are adequate and couldn't be done better with so many spells.

 

[Admiral Flint]

I played this map today, very good map. Here's my review:

[+]Hive Workshop Requirements: The map has a valid name, an author name, and a description. I have ignored the wrong categorization.
[+]Ingenuity: Very good use of the effects on Warcraft.
[+]Originality: I believe I can grant a green plus here. I had never seen a game of this type. Excellent job creating an original map.
[+]Machine/Net-Friendly: The map does not lag at all. Another plus.
[+]Bugs: I found no bugs.
[+]Fun Factor/Gameplay: The gameplay is very interesting. Because of the terrain (as mentioned below), it gets somewhat boring after a while, but with many players this is certainly fun.
There should also be more tips for the players.
[+]Imported Material: Although there are models that could have fit just as well, the "Bloodelf Wizard" by General Frank was certainly a good choice.
[+]Object Editor Work Quality: Nothing to say here, you did what was necessary for this map type.
[+/-]Balance: In Balance terms, the game is OK. However, speed-based games never turn out to be completely balanced because of one common issue: the host has no delay. He can react faster than any other player.
Also, as mentioned here, the rewards each round should be a little more equal.
[-]Terrain: The terrain fits for it's style, but you could have added some different arenas, or add an option for them. Right now, it's always the same. The terrain gets boring quick.

"Warlock" is an original offense & survival map in which you have to use your multiple knockback spells -- each with a different design -- to throw your enemies into the lava, where they loose high amounts of health.
Although the imbalance grows, as the newbie players leave and the winner of most of the rounds gets more gold, and the arenas are not very original terrain-wise, the game succeeds in being unique and decently stable in general.

My rating for version 0.81b of "Warlock" is 17/20, approximately 4 (Recommended).

Well RUI, I'm going to review your review :3 ... The balancing part is easily changed by using bots, because no one actually is a manual host anymore. Bots have the same lag for everyone, depending on where they live. Considering most people playing on a bot are on the same server they will experience hardly any lag. The terrain could possibly be altered with forests / dif environments but I believe the circular, square, and doughtnut terrains already in game are legit. Alternatively, there is a terrain editor you can download at their website which lets you change the terrain how you like.

 

[Admiral Flint]

Go to channel clan lows @ USEast , or PONG, or clan N0vA. All three of these clans host warlocks frequently.

 

[Admiral Flint]

It was down for a bit, but try it again and then look for downloads< custom terrain editor

 

[copsychus]

Please use edit option instead of new reply

 

[Pensseliseta]

PROS
[+] Decent spells
[+] Changing terrain
[+] Pushback effects

CONS
[-] Keybindings
[-] Camera

OVERALL
4/5 -Outstanding

 

[Garfield1337]

PROS
[+] Decent spells
[+] Changing terrain
[+] Pushback effects

CONS
[-] Keybindings
[-] Camera

OVERALL
4/5 -Outstanding

What's wrong with camera? You can zoom it in/out using -cam (number) command. I usually use -cam 700.

 

[Pensseliseta]

What's wrong with camera? You can zoom it in/out using -cam (number) command. I usually use -cam 700.

Well, It would be a lot comfortable if the camera would be locked to target.
of course it's only my opinion.

 

[Super-Sheep]

Well, It would be a lot comfortable if the camera would be locked to target.
of course it's only my opinion.

I think there was even a command for that.

 

[copsychus]

If it locked with target , how can u make your next move before your enemy do [predict]. , especially, multi-target

 

[Complicated]

This map is amazing.

 

[AaBbCc]

Can you let everyone of warlock brawl know this thing that i have in mind that could make warlock much better! here it is. If you are not all to keen on the character you should make it so there are much more such as bloodmage, Jaina, Necromancer, Priest/emmisary, and archmage unmounted. oh and maybe sorceress and banshee. just letting you know alot of things you can do for an improvement that i think everyone will love.

 

[Admiral Flint]

There are multiple commands that can customize the game to how you like... For instance you can make it so you don't get gold when you kill an enemy.

 

[Luffy]

one of the best minigame ever seen

 

[Hoops]

This sort of talk is frowned upon.

one of the best minigame ever seen

Most public players tend to conclude that it is just a minigame with very few options and very trivial gameplay.
This is, of course, the case when they play it in a standard -1000 gold FFA 1000ms delay game.

What they do not realize, is that Warlock has a lot more to offer:
- Fast-phased competitive matches
- Teamplay
- About 50 different upgradable spells and items, which in fact, are quite balanced compared to those in many other Warcraft 3 maps.
- Several different modes, including -Deathmatch, -King and -Avatar
- A fully customizable environment, including the custom terrain editor, not to mention all the game constants.

 

[Moonmage]

Statement from Zymoran:

the lack of the preview screen is most likely a result of the new map protection system

 

[Vengeancekael]

^Oh noes

Anyways, nice to see a new update C: