WarGryphon

[Moderator]

10:45, 6th Jun 2015
Misha: well.. that is lill too simple.. just changing the dwarf to a mountain king and strapping a few bits of un-connected armor on the gryphon.. good idea, but definitely needs more work, so it looks a lill bit more unique

 

[Kaizer]

~Reserved

 

[Hantoo]

Nice, Finally SOmeone made this
I like the Armor, This could be a Hero Gryphon Rider Maybe add some Hero Glow and SOme Unique Armor or something to the Gryphon?
(Or a More Shinier Golden Armor for the Gryphon?)

And I think the Anim is a lil buggy, try Use Linearize animation? Ok, Maybe is just the Viewer

 

[Kaizer]

now that you mention it, how about i create an alternate model wherein it is a hero?

 

[Hantoo]

now that you mention it, how about i create an alternate model wherein it is a hero?

Why Not?That would be great
Could Add Thrall Animation for Ground Version if you want XD

 

[Misha]

Oh, and I forgot.. changing the hammer means that you'll have to do a custom missile now

 

[Hantoo]

Oh, and I forgot.. changing the hammer means that you'll have to do a custom missile now

And the Hammer, Can just use the Storm Bolt missle lol

 

[InfernalTater]

Gryphon sure has been a popular model to make lately. It looks good, but maybe not have his hammer disappear in the attack animation. It isn't really needed; nobody will notice that it's still in his hand after he throws it. But having it removed prevents people from being able to use anything besides him throwing a hammer for the attack; what if they wanted the gryphon to attack, or for lightning to come from his hammer? Then his hammer is disappearing awkwardly for no reason. So that forces the user to only be able to use the storm hammer projectile, thus limiting its usefulness.

3/5.

 

[Stefan.K]

Nice idea. You better change "Attack - 2" to some spell anim then attack. If he throws hammers it would look wierd when he throws a spear and a missile is hammer <.<.

 

[Kaizer]

Gryphon sure has been a popular model to make lately. It looks good, but maybe not have his hammer disappear in the attack animation. It isn't really needed; nobody will notice that it's still in his hand after he throws it. But having it removed prevents people from being able to use anything besides him throwing a hammer for the attack; what if they wanted the gryphon to attack, or for lightning to come from his hammer? Then his hammer is disappearing awkwardly for no reason. So that forces the user to only be able to use the storm hammer projectile, thus limiting its usefulness.

fair point

Nice idea. You better change "Attack - 2" to some spell anim then attack. If he throws hammers it would look wierd when he throws a spear and a missile is hammer <.<.

I thought there was something in the WE that can handle it lol, I was wrong

 

[Misha]

so.. what exactly did you change? I see no good changelog in the description.. and hive viewer can be a lill bit unreliable

 

[teozamait]

Gryphon sure has been a popular model to make lately. It looks good, but maybe not have his hammer disappear in the attack animation. It isn't really needed; nobody will notice that it's still in his hand after he throws it. But having it removed prevents people from being able to use anything besides him throwing a hammer for the attack; what if they wanted the gryphon to attack, or for lightning to come from his hammer? Then his hammer is disappearing awkwardly for no reason. So that forces the user to only be able to use the storm hammer projectile, thus limiting its usefulness.

3/5.

I wouldn't necessarily agree, if you want a hammer to remain in his hand after he attacks you can just add the model as an attachment (though I'm not sure that hammer model is the standard one/available on this site as separate).

I tend to notice when missile weapons leave the hands, and I think it's a fairly nice visual addition to ranged units (like trolls having to pick new axes/spears from their backs).

Also please don't add a Hero glow! Hero glows do actually restrict the use of a model if they come by default. It is really easy to add a Hero glow as an attachment to any model, but it's not that easy to remove one already there-well, not for someone like me who has no knowledge of using a model editor anyway (I imagine it's not insanely had, but the point remains).

The model in itself is a nice, straightforward but very useful addition, as using predominantly in-game elements it really fits the dwarven theme already present. I personally love models that are simple variations of original ones, such as Footmen with a different weapon, simply because they fit so well visually with in-game models. That being said, most models made in this way usually make up for their simplicity with something else-usually animations. Now I have absolutely no knowledge in making animations and I suppose that it is the hardest part of modelling, but I do think this model would really benefit from maybe one extra animation, maybe just a stand one?

Regardless, great and very useful model

 

[Kaizer]

so.. what exactly did you change? I see no good changelog in the description.. and hive viewer can be a lill bit unreliable

1.0 - Uploaded
1.1 - Added a new Attack Animation, New and Improved Hammer
1.2 - Changed Attack - 2 to Spell Attack Animation, Hammer no longer disappears on attack

:<

@teozamait don't worry, it's a unit model, I won't add a hero glow.
Thanks for the feedback, I'll add another stand animation

 

[Misha]

1.0 - Uploaded
1.1 - Added a new Attack Animation, New and Improved Hammer
1.2 - Changed Attack - 2 to Spell Attack Animation, Hammer no longer disappears on attack

well, put that in the model page description, mate
anyway, maybe you should work a bit more on the armor, it's still kinda looking disconnected and 'glued' on the gryphon.. unless hive viewer is trolling me

Edit: nevermind.. I am a lazy ass that is lazy to click >.<

 

[Jaina Proudless]

The beard is invisible when looking at it from the back.

 

[Kenathorn]

That's a great idea to remake Blizzard's gryphon, because the default one looks absolutely ugly. I like your new version. It has even gave me some inspiration to make my own better gryphon model. So, it may appear on Hive soon!

4/5 for you.

 

[Strydhaizer]

The beard is invisible when looking at it from the back.

Coz it's not 2 sided, but not really obvious ingame

 

[KarlKrump]

Gonna give it a go...initial look...looks nice.

 

[Stefan.K]

I like the helmet and shoulder pad but the filesize is huge, you could optimize it to reduce it.

 

[Jaina Proudless]

Coz it's not 2 sided, but not really obvious ingame

I would not be so sure. When you look from the side the same problem occurs and when he turns his head this happens as well. It look real bad even from a distance when you look from the side he is holding his hammer.

 

[Forsaken]

Wow, good job!

 

[Kaizer]

I would not be so sure. When you look from the side the same problem occurs and when he turns his head this happens as well. It look real bad even from a distance when you look from the side he is holding his hammer.

I'm having trouble seeing this problem, can you give me a screenshot of it?

@Stefan.K will do! Thanks

@Forsaken thanks!

 

[Jaina Proudless]

I'm having trouble seeing this problem, can you give me a screenshot of it?

dvarf exposed

 

[Kaizer]

dvarf exposed

Oh. Now i see it thanks man, i'll fix it asap

 

[Qrom Bellascream]

How about some funky goggles?

 

[teozamait]

How about some funky goggles?

Ohh please don't, the WoW gryphon rider's goggles are absolutely hideous )
These are shamanistic warriors wielding Stormhammers! I doubt they need goggles to have a better view of the area...

 

[kakuzu]

Nice model , i like the idea . By the way , it is supposed to be a hero ?

 

[InfernalTater]

I like that you changed it to have a spell anim to throw the spear with the other hand. That is really cool.

Keep improving this model, it's a good improvement over the old Gryphon. If it were possible to give half-thumbs, I'd raise my original rating from a 3/5 to a 3.5/5.

You may want to rotate the spear to be a bit straighter; this would fix two clipping issues at the same time: the speartip through the neck of the gryphon, and the handle of the spear through the wings.

To get a 4/5 from me, though, you'll need to improve the quality of the gryphon to be better than the in-game one.

 

[Kyrbi0]

Dang, never saw this. I too would like to see a different Gryphon (really sell this guy as a alternative/souped-up/Hero form of the Gryphon Rider), as well as hero glow & such.

Of course, the true "Gryphon Rider hero" wouldn't be the staid, heavily armored Mountain King-variant, but rather a crazed Wildhammer dude (ala

)

 

[stein123]

I too would like to see a different Gryphon

How about the HoS gryphon rider, or Hayate's Gryphon knight?
(Also there was a cool wc3 gryphon rider from a russian mod wich was enough different from the vainilla one)

Edit: @Kyrbi0 these are the ones i'm talking about:

 

[Kyrbi0]

I'd have to look those up again. I'm not sure I've been quite satisfied yet, though.

 

[Garkanka]

This is very good and exactly what i wanted for my map!