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Warcraft 3 is dead?

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For me, it's totally dead but I still play it cause it's just an meritorious game. I think DoTa needs to go away and let other custom games rise up popularity and the melee games are getting worser with searching games like 4v4 rt, 4v4AT or if you're at a high level.
 
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I'm kinda against DoTa for just being soo popular that it pretty much doesnt have enough other custom games to come up since DoTa is too popular. You have people buying warcraft 3 nowdays, just to play DoTa. I also agree with Rui's comments about lack of bad custom games, there is some I have to agree but they never get to host like the 03-04's map: Uther's Party, Kodo's Tag, Zombie Tag, Freeze Tag etc....
 
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The kind of games people go for these days are games that are real simple. There's no complication, no How-to more than 2 sentences. Though those are fun for a while, they get boring, and i get disappointed.
 
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The kind of games people go for these days are games that are real simple. There's no complication, no How-to more than 2 sentences. Though those are fun for a while, they get boring, and i get disappointed.
Some games are easy to make but they can get fun and never get boring to me: Freeze Tag, Zombie Tag, etc...Complicated games are mostly the one to me are boring: it requires soo many stuff to do and take a while to learn which I'm sure mostly everyone doesn't want to do.
 
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Warcraft III costs more money than WOW where I live.

I can buy WOW with 3 months of free play for $15.00

But, Warcraft III battle chest is going to cost me $50.00, more If I buy Chaos and Frozen Throne separate.

DOTA has not taken over all of Battle.net, but it has taken over the west server.
 
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Warcraft III costs more money than WOW where I live.

I can buy WOW with 3 months of free play for $15.00

But, Warcraft III battle chest is going to cost me $50.00, more If I buy Chaos and Frozen Throne separate.

DOTA has not taken over all of Battle.net, but it has taken over the east server.

50 dollars, jesus!

Here it's really cheap.
 
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Warcraft III costs more money than WOW where I live.

I can buy WOW with 3 months of free play for $15.00

But, Warcraft III battle chest is going to cost me $50.00, more If I buy Chaos and Frozen Throne separate.

DOTA has not taken over all of Battle.net, but it has taken over the east server.
At my Fry's Electronics, the battle chest is $45 and WoW is 15 bucks a month.
 
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I hate how people charge per month to play a game. So stupid. WoW make people go insane, people like smash their computers because they die or something.

I dont get how Dota got so popular so fast. I never had B.Net till after dota dominated the customs, which is pretty long. How did it spread?

Did it just spring up over night?
 
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I hate how people charge per month to play a game. So stupid. WoW make people go insane, people like smash their computers because they die or something.

I dont get how Dota got so popular so fast. I never had B.Net till after dota dominated the customs, which is pretty long. How did it spread?

Did it just spring up over night?
No. It's the only map with alot of strategic depth, team tactics and what's very important - frequent updates!

There are many dota leagues, what encourages people to play it. I know few maps that are too "good" to be popular. By good I mean author doesn't care about his map being popular, he just wants to do perfect maps for him.
 
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In my opinion Wc3 its a bit dead. . .its geting to be like Starcraft. Anyway the idea is that i have seen great skins / models around here but none ever aplied in a custom Map. Except Azeroth Wars some aos and other maps like narotu wars. . .there is mostly dota (as RPG maps). The last good rpg map i can remember is The Black Road , other than that. . .no more new good maps. . .at least for what i have seen.
 
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As far as I know DotA is one of the big things keeping wc3 alive. Asides from the fabulous things u could do with World Editor, DotA is second. But that doesn't mean it's not that good.
DotA is good, even tho' I hate to admit it.
I also miss normal melee maps. I can rarely find anyone to play with nowadays.
I used to play with orcs. Why is it that only a few guys play melee in wc3 nowadays. I used to like it, micro skills are totally in good use in the melee game, but it does have a very DIFFERENT FEEL from starcraft, I still love melee games.
 
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Dota is not good. Dota is mediocre. If there was no Dota, other good maps would keep Warcraft 3 alive. In fact, it's because of Dota that some people left. This might turn into a Dota thread so I'll stop now :)
 
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A lot of people don't like DotA players coz they can be so goddamn arrogant. There are tons of arrogant DotA guys here in our place and in the net that call somebody a noob everytime they get a kill. Some then quit when they die, but I don't think they quit wc3 because they don't like DotA. Like me for example, I abandoned the game when I found out that everytime somebody posted a picture of himself winning in a game at dota-allstars.com the pros try to diss him (and I really mean diss).
But don't get the wrong idea, because of DotA's popularity guys here in our place invite girls or people who've never even heard of wc3 before just to play DotA. And it's because of this that wc3 players became plentiful. Altho' it has a bad effect to it like people calling the wc3 game DotA (I even see pirated selling cd's called DoTA allstars instead of wc3 frozen throne.) I must admit that majority of our kids in here play DotA than any other game uv ever heard of.
 
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maps i think are worth playing...
footmen frenzies
hero line wars
epic rpg's (with save files yes!)
dota 3.7 RoC
Sheep tag evo
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Footmen frenzies fill up fast but are usually inbalanced or have cheats everyone knows.
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Hero line wars are extremely laggy and usually not fun unless your playing a 2v2 in which case your screwed if your ally has to leave
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Epic rpgs are just to large of downloads and load times and there are too few good ones, it seems like once some one reaches the max level everyone has
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My view is dota was a great map until it moved to tft, at which time it became extremely popular to the point where you couldnt download it, or start playing because people would scream newb at u
3.7 was easy to undestand and you could only use heros from your side, and there werent piles of recipies to confuse you...
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Sheep tags are really uncommon and no one ever wants to be the wolf
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Its not dead, it is DIEING, certain genres are dissapearing and probably wont survive the winter (ex: LoaP)

Others have become "corrupt" with too much imbalance/unfair-ness going around that people dont bother with the maps.

I figure Wc3 will officialy be dead at most 2 years after SC2 hits, AT MOST.
Thats because SC2 will eventualy come to be more advanced (ex: custom models being made maps in full production).

So, really, it doesnt matter much, at the very least this sinking game will hold on untill SC2's release.
 
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starcraft 2 is going to lift off faster than a midget with a jet pack,
first off does anyone realize how much people still play the obviously primitive starcraft broodwar? ok... lets look at it this way, starcraft was made 10 years ago give or take, yet it is last months 8th highest computer game sale. not to mention in korea the is a starcraft television, if blizzard doesnt make starcraft 2 a success there fan base will deteriorate, and they will become pretty much known for world of warcraft, and the people who play world of warcraft would leave the game if there was another low requirement mmo with more features there would be nothing left
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now that i have that down i will say starcraft probably wont be warcrafts downfall, but warcraft will be its own downfall. the world editor is advanced to the point where most people who play play only for custom games which will get old and by the time dota is so popular that theres a new version everyweek and everyone and there pet gerbil has made one warcraft will die, because all thoose dota players are the reason there is a warcraft 3 right now
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custom games on warcraft boosted the sales of everything not made by blizzard. think about how many of you bought tools or even visited a website for tools, or even got a bootlegged version of 3dstudio max or whatever, even if you didnt pay anything for that program you have advertised it by making models yourself others would seek out what program you used and create a never ending loop of buying 3rd party tools for making maps on warcraft (EVEN IF WARCRAFT DIES) most of you probably like animating or skinning or anything enough to consider trying to make a career out of it
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bottom line
warcraft wont die unless starcraft 2 makes map editing a massively easier
starcraft 2 probably wont attract the hardcore ladder gamers of broodwar because of the ums games
warcraft 3 benefitted everyone way more than it did blizzard
 
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Yeah, starcraft two has both koreans and blizzard fans. It won't exactly die out. But its quality, well, since I'd trust other things than panther-anthro's word, kthx, we'll just have to wait and see.
 
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the only problem i have with wc3 is the number of imbalanced maps. like on footies vs grunts, which used to be a fun map, now has little tiny bunny heroes that are extremely imbalanced. versions before that had an imbalanced marine. Hero Line Wars is corrupt completely, some heroes extremely rape everything and others can hardly survive the creeps attacking them.
another thing i hate to see in the wc3 community is EVERYONE vs 1 person. these maps are dying down but they are still there. in most cases, people never want to be the 1 enemy. there are stupid maps where its 11 people vs 1 "ultra" guy, sure sometimes it may be fair, but no one wants to play a map where they are isolated from everyone else while everyone else is having fun building up bases or what not. like helms deep, people are willing to play as the orc but people always want to be the humans, since they have to hardly do anything except for sit back and sometimes move the hero. one thing ive also found retarded in these type maps is that the orc hero always gets killed and never has a chance to level up, where the human heroes sit back with the archers and get tons of free exp as wave after wave of orcs are sent at them, then you have a lvl 20 hero that cant be stopped.
well, thats my rant on wc3 and some of the maps out.
 
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footmen frenzy (5.4) is well balanced but there are cheats for it everyone knows
dota is extremely balanced but most people have a sort of anti-fanboy feel about it not to mention most players are assholes and dont allow room for newbs
 
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