Upadoro TD v0.985

[Moderator]

09:59, 26th Oct 2008
Rui: The map required a category. I added one myself.

"Upadoro TD" is a tower defense game - you must build towers in order to stop waves of creeps.
I have reviewed version 0.96 of this map, and you may find the comment [self="http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/resource.php?t=80312&page=2#post891378"]here[/self].

With a rating of 3/5, this map has been set to Approved.

 

[Apdat]

I think this map is a little to easy, but thats just what i think

 

[EpixBelongToMe]

did you play it with easy difficult?^^
if not please tell me: what was to easy?

 

[EpixBelongToMe]

small update - version 0.91:

-some small balancing issues for tamer
-worker abilities scale during the game
-game master ability changed

 

[Aeroblyctos]

I played the game and here is my results:

Good sides:
- Map is very well made
- Towers are balanced and they have good information
- Item towers were nice and unique idea
- TD with a little story, great!
Bad sides:
- Team mode is not good, because everyone have their own creep lines and it's stupid to help allies, if there were some kind of line between allies, then team would be nice
- Solo mode frustrated me, because I have to wait others...
- I played first 15 min. I even reached level 3, wow, and this TD have 50 waves...
- The game was too easy. Everyone except me took easy, and more than half of the people left of boring, not because they lost the game!
- 2 players lost because of invisible units, I'm still wondering how did I see them...
- After level 33, it was bit boring, because I build only ultimate towers

Suggestions:
- Try to make better solo mode so people don't need to wait others

BTW. Meantime when I was playing, I went to shit one time, piss two times, pick up some food two times, pick up some drink three times. And guess what. I went to fuck myself four times. This all tells you that you should really do something about the solo mode. Especially, when you are playing with beginners that are building almost in the middle!

 

[EpixBelongToMe]

thanks for your comment, i will try to improve it.

the invisible units spawn at level 22 and the paladin tower level 2/3 can see them. i hoped a hint, red letters in the upgrade description and the random tip are enough to show the people that they have to upgrade it.

 

[Gravedigger]

After my test on Battle.net I got this:
The good:
-Good terrain
-Good balancing, although goblins seem to be a little better then the other races
-All around, good TD

The bad:
-Not enoguh time to pick your race at the beginning
-You start at the end of your maze, as a beginner, you'll naturally build there and then have to wait forever for the creeps to come on every level
-Goblins are slightly overpowered
-The mazes are to big, so waiting for the creeps naturally gets boring
-You only get enough money to build a few towers
-All players can pick their own difficulty, so people just pick easy and win
-No one could figure out how to figtht the invis levels
-There was a typo in a tooltip for one of the Wow race towers (sorry, don't remember which one)

 

[Razzia]

omg fix the leave bug Oo when someone leaves the creeps stops dieing at the end... so everything gets stuck...i cant do anything to kill those units.. fix it plz

 

[ap0calypse]

I think this is a really nice map: yeah, you need more time at start and a solo mode where timer starts when you finished your line...
but I really like some original features (tower-item when boss dies; Focus Fire ability) nice descriptions (also on armor & attack types)
but it gets boring after a while... it isn't your fault, it's in (almost) any TD

 

[EpixBelongToMe]

hey
long time no update but here is a new version. it doesn't really offer many new things. but i think i have the time to do put some work in it now.

the first goal will be a better solo mode with single player spawns, so that you are not delayed by players who need more time to finish the wave.
a better team mode will require some more effort. maybe it will be an additional map with a new design to allow real teamgaming.

 

[hookah]

I was with red and in the first round I get only 49 creeps and didnt changed to round2 and I couldnt found the 50th creep.

 

[EpixBelongToMe]

never noticed that before. and never happened during my tests.
maybe you just leaked one and the level 1 mobs are very slow.

 

[hookah]

never noticed that before. and never happened during my tests.
maybe you just leaked one and the level 1 mobs are very slow.

no...
maybe while I was selling a tower it killed a unit and it didnt counted it? is it possible?

 

[EpixBelongToMe]

i tried to make the map loading faster by using widgetizer but it always moved all the hotkeys to other places. i tried the option which says "don't overwrite the object data with customkey data" but it doesn't work.
any tips about that?

 

[FrozenFenrir]

uhm i found a bug(i dont know if its still in this vers cause i havent tried it yet) in ur last version... the creeps at pinks spot are standing still on the first waypoint and wont go away there which makes it fucking easy for pink to kill all creeps even on the hardest difficulty =O

 

[EpixBelongToMe]

ah thanks for that - i made a mistake with the conditions >.<
i fixed it with 0.95a

 

[FrozenFenrir]

ah good =)
now i dont have to close the pink spot anymore

 

[Styl4]

You Still Work on this Map?
I love your map and would be happy if you make a new version at all cuz the upadoro avatar is kinda unkillable cuz he got invinite mana points

 

[EpixBelongToMe]

yeah im still working on it but i don't have a lot of time at the moment. so it takes a bit for a new version.

but the avatar should be easy because he has only 100000 mana and after that his mana shield is broken. the vengeance tower 3 has a mana burn ability.

 

[Styl4]

The Bug i meant is that you can't kill the final boss he got 100000 mana and your manaburn burns 1000dmg per strike so u need many of them and he got a quite good mana reg. so its unmakeable to kill him... in an older version u got an "destroy shield" spell it would be better if this spell is at the "ultimate" tower instead of mana burn

 

[EpixBelongToMe]

hmm i dont realy understand the problem. i try to explain: the avatar has a shield thats right. the shield is like manashield, that means that he loses mana instead of hp first. so normaly every tower can kill him because every damage lowers his mana and when it reaches 0 the shield is broken. after the shield is down he loses hp like every other enemy.
and that works fine in every try so i can't see a bug.
and i replaced the "destroy shield" spell because it was kinda too easy with it.


otherwise i wanna say im nearly done with the new race and making the last balance issues for it.

 

[EpixBelongToMe]

i forgot to mention some small changes for 0.96

wow race:
-the molten destroyer can now be upgraded to golemagg the incerator

scourge race:
-the frozen throne and arthas the lichking towers got the new ability "raise army" (summons a small troop of undead units)

arch mage:
-the archmage lvl 1 now has only blizzard
-archmage 2 and 3 got the arcane aura (it replaces the mana aura). the arcane aura gives a chance to refresh the ability cooldowns after casting

 

[StasMaN]

Review

Alright, it's time for a simple review of the map

Good Points :
+The map is stable and doesn't crash wc3
+Includes a wide choice of towers
+Provides a great challenge for players
+Towers have abilities
Neutral Points :
#It has a basic storyline
Bad Points :
-Towers are imbalanced, some races are powerful, but others are useless
-Team mode is very hard even on normal difficulty
-The gameplay is very long

It's a pretty good TD with a simple storyline and somewhat unique gameplay . My rating - 3/6 (Useful)

 

[Squiggy]

Uh, Stas, we lost on level 4..
I don't think that replay it representative

 

[EpixBelongToMe]

Alright, it's time for a simple review of the map

[...]
Bad Points :
-Towers are imbalanced, some races are powerful, but others are useless
-Team mode is very hard even on normal difficulty
-The gameplay is very long

It's a pretty good TD with a simple storyline and somewhat unique gameplay . My rating - 3/6 (Useful)

hi,
thx for your feedback. could you maybe explain the bad points a bit more?
i think every race has its pros and contras like weak starting towers and powerful endtowers. but you can win with every race.
hmm ok the team mode ... the team mode is kinda for people who already played it because if someone makes mistakes its hard to prevent more leaks. but the team mode is still on my list for some changes.
the map takes about 60 minutes normaly and i think thats ok. gem td on extreme mode takes almost nearly 2 hours.

 

[Rui]

√ Terrain √ Bugs √ Spelling & Grammar +/- Replay Value +/- Gameplay +/- Originality +/- Packaging X Object Editor work quality

Something in this map that immediately catches your attention is the terrain: although a TD can never be praised upon (due to the nature of the map type), varying the terrain the 4 different corners was an excellent idea. The map also appears to have been tested and bugs taken care off. I saw no grammatical mistakes either. Now, the game might be played some more times to test new difficulties or races, but it'll eventually get boring. The gameplay was nothing special, and it was not original either - I believe the majority of the races was overall the same.

Additionally, I think you should improve and enchant your description. Right now it's a pile of text.

My rating for this resource is 3/5 (Useful).

 

[Styl4]

Played the new map few times and need too say,
it is a bit too powerful i think,
and for what i can use the shard that dropps from the Rotten boss?
I still don't figured it out please write PM how too use it

At all great map best TD ever played 5/5

 

[EpixBelongToMe]

hey over 4000 downloads.
but there are still only a few comments. actually i don't really know what i shall add, improve or how to improve implemented things. so a few more comments would be nice.

 

[TwentyTwo]

hey over 4000 downloads.
but there are still only a few comments. actually i don't really know what i shall add, improve or how to improve implemented things. so a few more comments would be nice.

Just got a hold of this map and it plays well - beat it on both Easy and Normal so far.

Here are some comments:
-Maybe add a few secret races so people can go random more.
-Another good tool I've seen is a range checker that you can add to the builder
-Can you double check the Damage Aura Range? It seems to only hit some towers when approaching the maximum range of the Aura. For example, if "A" was the Aura tower, "X" the affected units, "O" the expected affected units that don't have the Aura.
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Questions:
-Is there any replayability if you beat it on harder modes?

Cheers - Keep up the good work.

 

[EpixBelongToMe]

thanks for your comment.

i think 8 different races are actually really much and its not so easy to create more which fit good. "best of" races could be an idea.

range check should not be a problem

the range "bug" from the auras does only appear to floating towers somehow - maybe the game thinks they are out of range if you build them at max range. - dont know if i can fix this

hmm yes the replay value is still somehow low you can only pick another race, but maybe i could add something special

 

[TwentyTwo]

Maybe add a "special" user-specific code you get when you finish it on the hardest level, and maybe have that enable a special race to use (that's very very hard to finish with)

 

[xtc_]

Played 2 races at normal level.

+ different towers nicely done
+ boss waves with bonus towers

- too long maze
- too linear (just building every tower)
- takes lots of time to swap between next levels to the end of the game
- boring when played more than 2 times (for me)

4/5

 

[EpixBelongToMe]

hi,
i wanna say i'm still working on 0.97.
currently im trying some improvements for the gameplay and how it changes the map. so it still could take some time to finish.

also 1 new difficulty will be added and a race which will be awarded for winning it.


so if you are waiting for a new version. i think it will "soon" come.

 

[FrozenFenrir]

hm what to do with that special item which u get at the same time as the fleshgolem?_?
didnt figure it out how to use it

 

[kentrus]

BTW this is my third post =D I found a bugg I think.... When you play Lich servents the Army summon spell if you summon them in an AoE spell they get instantly killed I dont know if it was planned but you should fix that the spells dont kill allies?

 

[kentrus]

Ok now that I'm first spamming I want to say I was wrong the undead get killed by Splash dmg and people who talks about some races hard other eachy, bullshit pick easy race if you are noob ahrd race if you know how to play
simpel as cake.!

 

[FrozenFenrir]

okay you are new here as i can see it at your posts so im not that hard...
USE THE EDIT BUTTON!!!!
cause multi posts will be punished at hive!

 

[kentrus]

Ok thank you I now know about the edit stuff.
Well let me make a list of all the buggs I found then and Edit it if any more comes ut:
1: Undead army takes dmg from splash dmg and may die really fast before even working.
2: You can teleport others building with your Tower displacer.
3: When you get underworld in random it ends up as Tamer.
4: I belive the random is bugged some races comes to often then others.
5: When you itemfy Underworlds main building it gets unable to pick up again.
6: The buildings requered to build Nightlord of Underworld is all wrong.
7: The secret tower is all to strong for lvl 20 and should be either delyed for when to get or removed.
8: The Gamemaster spell does not say any thing about not working on Heroes, but when I try to target it wont activate

 

[EpixBelongToMe]

Ok thank you I now know about the edit stuff.
Well let me make a list of all the buggs I found then and Edit it if any more comes ut:
1: Undead army takes dmg from splash dmg and may die really fast before even working.
2: You can teleport others building with your Tower displacer.
3: When you get underworld in random it ends up as Tamer.
4: I belive the random is bugged some races comes to often then others.
5: When you itemfy Underworlds main building it gets unable to pick up again.
6: The buildings requered to build Nightlord of Underworld is all wrong.
7: The secret tower is all to strong for lvl 20 and should be either delyed for when to get or removed.
8: The Gamemaster spell does not say any thing about not working on Heroes, but when I try to target it wont activate

thanks for the feedback ok let me see.
1. i recognized that too, but too late. it's fixed in my working version
2. ok that is somehow strange and needs to be fixed
3. copy paste error and already fixed
4. random is just random
5. hmm i don't have that problem. i will look for it
6. the list is correct but like i mentioned in the patchnotes, when Dalia uses shadow soul she counts not for the list. just wait until she is normal and it works.
7. already nerfed in working version
8. yeah i mean death touching heroes would be too easy. so it should be logic but i will add it to the text

 

[kentrus]

My friends (wow geeks/no lifers) have all found a miss spell in the map.
The phoenix that keal spawns is wrong named. They sais his name is "Al'ar, the phoenix lord" and that you called him something else. Donno if you didn't know.

 

[EpixBelongToMe]

no it's not a mistake. kael'thas just summons a "phoenix".
Al'ra belongs to the tamer race and i know that the phoenix in wow is named al'ar it's meant to be a "ingame joke"


---edit---
Hey,
new version is out! check the patchlog for infos.

nichts reworked nearly all game related triggers and we did a lot of testing (that's why it took so long) but you can't think about all possibilities what players could do or what might happen in special cases. so this is kinda a test version of the new system. if there are any bugs please report them here.

and just a little hint: I only upload here on hiveworkshop.com actually. Maps from other sides could be modified and were not uploaded by me!

 

[Slid3r]

The new version doesn't work so well, at least for me: at level 27, after the hounds temporarily become immune to magic, they go back to the spawning point and stay there, invulnerable. Couldn't find a way to make them move.

 

[AgaetiBrisingr]

Awesome map~!
I kept losing lives when reaching the middle of the levels
I love how you made the spells for the towers!
Some may be simple but it seems FUN~!
Also I like how we could kill the boss and use them as a tower
I shall give you 4/5!

 

[EpixBelongToMe]

hmmm okay that sounds strange. on which slot and which race did you play? and where did the unit turn back to the start?

 

[Razzia]

Wave 27 bugged.

The dogs on Wave 27 are bugged.
After they use their Anti Magic shell they get stuck and start running back to jail and gets invulnerable. Either fix the bug or fix a -stuck command. I think it's the anti magic shell, not all of them get stuck but I think it's because they use them on different places and some of them run back onto the turns where there usually is a waypoint.

Every player got this bug, doesn't matter what slot you got.

btw, there are some typos too.

loading screen:
"this prisoners" -> "these prisoners"
"totaly" -> "totally"

and a the passive skill tooltips
"Passiv" -> "Passive"

Other than that, awesome map

 

[FrozenFenrir]

hmmm okay that sounds strange. on which slot and which race did you play? and where did the unit turn back to the start?

i tried it on different races and i have to say it looks like it happens always...regardless which race uve chosen.

 

[EpixBelongToMe]

ok i found the error. it was in a trigger i changed from gui to jass just before uploading the map. and the error was: i wrote an or where an and should be
but it screwed up a lot of things. im really sorry.

and another important thing i forgot to mention: you can only recieve a savecode when the map started with atleast 2 real players. it's actually a way to prevent people from cheating a code. maybe i can find a better way.

 

[Razzia]

changed?

did you change the version we can download?

btw, what do we need a save code for?
do we unlock things when we play enough games or what?

 

[EpixBelongToMe]

hmm yeah new version is now 0.97a. i don't know why it wasn't bumped in the map list.


the savecode enables the mercenaries race. that actually all.