[Import] Units can walk through water

[Cryze666]

i have a really great problem but my english isn't so good so i hope you can understand what i mean:

when i create a new map and use water of depth 1-2 and then grow up the terrain to give it a naturally look units can wlak through that water so the normally automaticly set blocker from the water (shown in pink) isnt there, i cant place ground blockers cuz i wan'T to use ships in this map, can some pls help me to solve this problem?

 

[WhiteDeath]

You are probably making the water too shallow, don't make it so shallow where you don't want units walking around.

 

[Cryze666]

not it's really deep the problem is the missing blocker, im using the jass new gen we and i think that this editor is responsible for that, maybe someone else has this problem and can tell me how to fix that?

 

[0neM4n4rmy]

maybe u based the unit off an amphibious unit? i dunno. if the problems is the new gen we, then ull have to ask an expert.
can u see the bottom of the water? if u can see it, units can walk through it. if u cant see it, units cannot walk through it.
so if u dont want units walking through, make sure the bottom of the sea cannot be seen.
hope u understand.

 

[water_Knight]

Make sure the unit you are using isn't baced of illidan since he can walk on water.

 

[Cryze666]

1: each unti can do that, and didnt change anything on the basic units of wc3

2: i cant se the ground of the water

3: the water is overall 2 cliff-levels deep

4: the unit does not walk OVER the water it walks through so the shadow of the unit is on the top of the water, the rest of the unit is under water and i only see glowings if there are any

 

[gorillabull]

can you post a screenshot?

 

[Cryze666]

example map, hope you can see it there, if not i will upload an screenshot

 

[Adiktuz]

just place the blockers at the sides of the water, that way you can still put ships in the water... though if a unit has blink, he can blink into the water...

have you imported an edited MiscData.txt file into that map?

 

[Cryze666]

if i place ground blockers ships cant pass them, i only imported models, you can see it in the import manager of the uploaded map

i just want the normal wc3 blockers wich are terrain based back

 

[WhiteDeath]

I tested the map and got the same problem, I placed some water on the map and than all the water started working. I don't know how it got fixed but who cares.

 

[gorillabull]

if you put the smallest amount of deep water with the smallest brush the water will not be pathable i tested 2 times how exactly did you make this water?

 

[Cryze666]

@ WhiteDeath: thanks that works

@ gorillabull: i created new map with water depth of 2 (2 clif tiles deep) und burshed it up

 

[Adiktuz]

That's why I said put them only at the sides/shore, not inside the water... that way, ships will be able to pass through water but not go outside the shores

 

[Cryze666]

i want to use transport ships, and if there is small space behind them the units will released in the water (tested it allready), but it doesn't matter now it's solved

thank you all for you're help

 

[WhiteDeath]

Reuploading as requested.

 

[Cryze666]

i reuploaded the map cuz my we is corrupt and creates this problem again i just want some one of you to save and upload it again cuz i need to test balance now

 

[WhiteDeath]

The map can not be saved by my editor because it has too much doodads - 16814,
maximum allowed are 8192.

 

[Cryze666]

you don't use the new gen jass pack we?
there you can remove the limits

 

[WhiteDeath]

It is probably because the new gen jass we that your map gets corrupted.

 

[Cryze666]

do you know another editor wich allows me to use unlimited doodads without this corruption?
my normal we also causes this problem without using the new gen we
edit: i remember a few months ago the new gen we did not cause such problems

 

[Adiktuz]

It is probably because the new gen jass we that your map gets corrupted.

Just so you know, WE sometimes just randomly corrupts a map so you better have back-ups ready [happens for both the normal WE and other WE]... but since you use NewGen, you probably would have back-ups at the JNGP folder, take a look...

We use NewGen so that we can use vJASS and other improvements like 16 tile tilesets, no doodad limit etc...

 

[WhiteDeath]

I have never used an editor other than the normal one.

 

[Adiktuz]

btw, now that I think of it, your problem is weird... I always increase terrain height to make natural looking rivers and such but I never encounter this walkability issue...

or maybe you raised everything?

or you create it with initial water then use increae height tool to remove water then use lower tool to create waters where you need them? if yes, then you might also just have lowered the terrain too much that it passes the limit for "deep" water...

 

[Cryze666]

@ adiktus: the oproblem is on each map i created in the last 4-5 months and also the problem exists in the normal editor, too.
the problems come back if open the map in my editor, when the map was saved from whitedeath the problem was resolved but after i did some changes on the map the problem comes back

and backups are useless cuz the problem is there when i create a new map
i changed somehting in hte editor tho get 90° brushes to have realistic cliffs i think mybe this could help when i redo this(?), could you tell me how to?



@ white death: mybe you can dl the new gen and try to resave it?
cuz it worked on your normal editor?

 

[Adiktuz]

i changed somehting in hte editor tho get 90° brushes to have realistic cliffs i think mybe this could help when i redo this(?), could you tell me how to?

--> I think that is your problem... I don't know how you edited it so I won't know how to fix it... but since you were the one who did the modification, you should know how to reverse it right?

 

[Cryze666]

no it's too long ago... the we allows you to brush terrain stright up to get naturally looking cliffs so you dont have to use the wiedr wc cliffs (but you need to place blockers there)


on another pc i installed the new gen we new and it can not solve the prolems

also my normal we i have this problems...
i have no idea...

 

[Adiktuz]

reinstall wc3... that way any changes you made to the editor will be gone...

btw, you can use increase height + plateau tool to make natural looking cliffs...

 

[Cryze666]

im not able to re-install wc3 cuz i lost my roc key... if you use new gen we, you can dl it, place a bit normal water onto the map (like white death did), save and re-upload it?

 

[Adiktuz]

Even if I do that, since the problem is on your WE, once you use the map and save it using your WE then the error will reappear... you already said so urself...

if your key is tied to your BNET account, I think you can reinstall wc3 without probs...

 

[Cryze666]

i just want a version of the map without the problem so when you sav eit it will be all fine^^

but i got another solution: i changed the tile pathing so that ground units cant pass them but flying and swimming units still can pass it, it works fine for me ...

on my b-net acc only diablo3 is active

 

[Xonok]

The problem comes from NewGen editor, as it rewrites the pathing file and doesn't take water into account. I fixed it by making a special sand that's unwalkable(ships can still pass due to water).