Trigger learning?

[TheBigMetalHandInTheSky]

(Especially for triggering experts) How did you learn how to make triggers for spells? I'm not very good at them so far and the tutorials only cover so much. It's also a bit difficult for me to examine already created spells (it's like just showing a student the answers on homework instead of helping them with it). I want to learn more about how to use them to my advantage without having to ask questions on forums.

 

[Deleted member 219079]

the tutorials only cover so much

What do you feel is left uncovered?

 

[Mister_Haudrauf]

Well i learned with experimenting. While i am not an Expert, i can say that i am adept in it.

And to be honest: i had at one point took apart one of the simple spells and examine it bit by bit.

The Tutorials are there to help you to make your own things. "Learning by doing".

 

[IcemanBo]

There will be a jass class, hope soon, which will help in learning.

But anyways, with real projects you always learn best, choose a (small) concept for a map that you think might be fun, and try to create the spells. You will face much problems and methods you need to deal with, and will improve for sure. And the tutorials and forums is only the result of such questions that arises, but never the begining.

 

[TheBigMetalHandInTheSky]

What do you feel is left uncovered?

I feel that more advanced spell enhancing is not covered.

 

[TheBigMetalHandInTheSky]

Thanks for the replies. I will try this.

 

[Deleted member 219079]

I feel that more advanced spell enhancing is not covered.

You should use JASS for complex spells. Use JNGP: The Jass NewGen Pack (JNGP) 2.0 - Blizzard Modding Information Center
It comes with syntax highlighter and vJASS interpreter.

 

[TheBigMetalHandInTheSky]

You should use JASS for complex spells.

The problem is: I don't know how to do anything in JASS (since I never tried before)
I also don't know how to write in JASS (I tried to find how once, but no luck)

 

[Mister_Haudrauf]

The problem is: I don't know JASS
I also don't know how to write in JASS (I tried to find how once, but no luck)

If i am right then that would be the "Custom Script's" that you can use in triggers.

 

[Deleted member 219079]

I tried to find how once, but no luck

I will re-write this tutorial later this year, it could help in its current form: [JASS/AI] - Simple JASS tutorial - for beginners
And skim through actually approved JASS tutorials: JASS/AI Scripts Tutorials

 

[TheBigMetalHandInTheSky]

How do I run Jass? Like I said, I tried, but no results.
Here is my file.

 

[Deleted member 219079]

I admit that it's quite a complicated archive solution, but it's to fight google malware detection. I attached .zip file.

 

[TheBigMetalHandInTheSky]

How do I run Warcraft III with vJASS? I clicked the applications, but all I got were errors. The NewGen application doesn't even do anything.

 

[Deleted member 219079]

Warcraft III doesn't use vJASS. During map load, JASS2 code inside map archive and common Blizzard code is compiled into byte code for JASS VM. vJASS is community-driven syntax that is interpreted by JassHelper, which is made by Vexorian, not Blizzard, and thus not included in the vanilla World Editor. JassHelper, if enabled in the main menu, is automatically run after you save the map with the custom World Editor included inside JNGP, NewGen WE.

JassHelper does report both vJASS and JASS2 errors, latter being checked by external tool, pjass. Error reporting is crucial, as upon coming across faulty code the game throws you into the main menu (or Battle.net menu if it's an online session) upon map load (this being the phase when JASS2 code is read by the game client). Use the information provided to you by the JassHelper dialog to correct the error. Also note that your map might still crash, even if no errors were reported. Below you can see a code that makes the game client abruptly exit in loading screen.

scope S initializer Init
    globals
        trigger T = CreateTrigger()
    endglobals
    private function Cond takes nothing returns boolean
        return TriggerEvaluate(T)
    endfunction
    private function Init takes nothing returns nothing
        call TriggerAddCondition(T, Condition(function Cond))
        call TriggerEvaluate(T)
    endfunction
endscope

 

[Assassins-Creed]

(Especially for triggering experts) How did you learn how to make triggers for spells?

Googled a spell that I thought was interesting, a small basic dash into knockback spell. I found a video tutorial and used it, copying what he did. Doing this allowed me to realize how to make my own dash spells, as well as where things are in the world editor, and how some things worked.

If you don't know how to do something that you want to do, google it. If you can't find it, ask the hive. Make friends with other map makers who can help you in real time. Join the hive discord chat. (Not sure what else to put here).

 

[TheBigMetalHandInTheSky]

Googled a spell that I thought was interesting, a small basic dash into knockback spell. I found a video tutorial and used it, copying what he did. Doing this allowed me to realize how to make my own dash spells, as well as where things are in the world editor, and how some things worked.

Yes, that's what I do. Sadly, there aren't many videos on a variety of spells, and some of them go way too fast, don't work, etc.

hive discord chat

Hive discord? I looked at it on a thread, and it's just like a voice chat. How is that supposed to help me in my triggering endeavors?

 

[Chaosy]

A desire to learn is all that is needed. Everything else is within reach for anyone.

I started out making (crappy) cinematics, then I tried to expand by asking my questions in the WEHZ. Combined with a few tutorials.

Takes a long ass time but that's how I did it.