The new WoW Expansion announced at BlizzCon 2011

Narrat0r · Aug 3, 2011

Well... if it's called "Mists of Pandaria, I have a couple of reasons to believe that Pandas will be playable -_-

takakenji · Aug 3, 2011

Narrat0r said:
Well... if it's called "Mists of Pandaria, I have a couple of reasons to believe that Pandas will be playable -_-

And what else? There needs to be two races.

Narrat0r · Aug 3, 2011

takakenji said:
And what else? There needs to be two races.

Maybe they'll be neutral, so they can join either the Alliance or the Horde. If not, then probably Naga or something like that.

Foronisus · Aug 3, 2011

you really dont understand??? i just told to make trailer so they will ask us about the game and we will say its just encourage and we are not making game it will be just trailer

Narrat0r · Aug 3, 2011

Foronisus said:
you really dont understand??? i just told to make trailer so they will ask us about the game and we will say its just encourage and we are not making game it will be just trailer

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Ehem... back to topic.

Asomath · Aug 3, 2011

Narrat0r said:
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Ehem... back to topic.

I lol'ed 3 times while reading that.

Anyways, Considering the location and expected concept (Fighting the old god under the south seas) Im thinking naga. Especiallly if you add in how with Cata they've been experimenting with underwater zones...

~Asomath

Hawkwing · Aug 4, 2011

Anything but "Mists of Pandaria." Anything...

Anyways, the folks on Mmo-Champion brought up the point that Blizzard probably wouldn't name the entire expansion after the homeland of a race playable by only one faction. It's not out of the question that they might not be neutral, but it's still a good point.

Tleno · Aug 4, 2011

Well, if Pandas will be playable race for both sides, I'd say this would lead to a whole bunch of problems - stating areas fo different side Pandareans, also there would be some kind of repeatability - I mean, Goblin and Worgen are pretty much different, but playing same race wtice... no thanks...

Not to mention in Cataclysm they kinda like made so the action for highest levels would take place in the good old Azeroth and Kalimdor, since before the Cataclysm most of people just rushed to get to Outland and later Northrend where the real action is, kinda like leaving Stormwind and other Azeroth/Kalimdor capitals empty... I wonder how will they solve this in the upcomming expansion?

Foronisus, ahem, how do you imagine making a Trailer of a game without making the game itself?

Foronisus · Aug 5, 2011

i meant not making the whole game it will took 2-3 years i meant just the places we need for the trailer got it??? but i was kidding

Tleno · Aug 5, 2011

Foronisus said:
i meant not making the whole game it will took 2-3 years i meant just the places we need for the trailer got it??? but i was kidding

Hahahaha how funny... :ogre_icwydt:

Yea, and wouldn't that like still require making the game engine and most of textures/doodads, which would take up the most time?

Geries · Aug 5, 2011

There will be 5x10^87765 expansions. Blizzard will continue destroying the game u till all players will go away. The only one expansion which was quite good and given new interesting places is BC. Since the wrath of the lunch knight i havent played a minute wow.

Asomath · Aug 5, 2011

Im pretty sure that the 5th expansion is going to be their last one...

~Asomath

Geries · Aug 5, 2011

Hopefully... However I not believe that. Blizzard is a money hungry company. They will continue this until they will not benefit of that.

Asomath · Aug 5, 2011

Well thats the thing. As project Titan is projected for 2014, 5 expansions really is all they have time for. After all, it wouldnt benefit Blizzard if they're splitting resources to constantly upgrade TWO MMO's would it?

~Asomath

Geries · Aug 5, 2011

For money they are possible to do anything

if that mean to give up WoW then they will

Foronisus · Aug 6, 2011

guys as i see you didnt readed what blizzard said????

they will make wow expansion till level cap reaches level 100 so with cata its level 85.Maximum they can make 3 more expansions...

Asomath · Aug 6, 2011

Foronisus said:
guys as i see you didnt readed what blizzard said????

they will make wow expansion till level cap reaches level 100 so with cata its level 85.Maximum they can make 3 more expansions...

Source?

~Asomath

Adiktuz · Aug 6, 2011

Foronisus said:
you really dont understand??? i just told to make trailer so they will ask us about the game and we will say its just encourage and we are not making game it will be just trailer

Dude, have you even saw what they did to that World of Starcraft Trailer vid on youtube? If you know about it, I'm sure you wouldn't even dare talking about making a trailer even for a non-existent game...

Anyway, on the topic... Hmmm... playable pandas would be cool... ^_^

Tleno · Aug 6, 2011

Foronisus said:
guys as i see you didnt readed what blizzard said????

they will make wow expansion till level cap reaches level 100 so with cata its level 85.Maximum they can make 3 more expansions...

Well yes, maximum 3. Of coure, they might like make one for 10 and one for 5... or make a one final update with 15 levels... you know, kinda like most final and most epic update.

Adiktuz said:
Dude, have you even saw what they did to that World of Starcraft Trailer vid on youtube? If you know about it, I'm sure you wouldn't even dare talking about making a trailer even for a non-existent game...

Anyway, on the topic... Hmmm... playable pandas would be cool... ^_^

Yes, after the trailer got released, the guy who made it was Blizzard lawyer rushed. He had to swaer this is not a standalone mod or game but just a custom map...

Foronisus · Aug 6, 2011

i said i was kidding about the trailer and about the source it was a video i cant find it now i have other works...

Asomath · Aug 6, 2011

Foronisus said:
i said i was kidding about the trailer and about the source it was a video i cant find it now i have other works...

Then it didn't happen.

Anyway, im Pretty sure that the 5th Expansion is their last one.

Cheers,
~Asomath

Foronisus · Aug 6, 2011

i think 2 more wow expansions will be... first one to level 95 and second one to 100 and than ends wow and starts Titan MMORPG.

Destroying Fruit · Aug 8, 2011

What the heck is this.
4th expansion? My grandchildren will have 87 expansion packs avaible, and by that time, they'll force you to purchase all of them to play the full game.

A new continent? I'm sorry but that's plain dumb. How would a new continent fit in the storyline? It just pops out of nowhere after some powerfull mage casts a spell?
Not to mention a new continent means a new race to populate it.

I've had it with expansion packs. I don't want expansion packs I just want ONE game, with eventual updates that IMPROOVE the game.

Seriosly. Blizzard is going downhill now. If they keep doing useless stuff like this the game will just get worst and worst.

Foronisus · Aug 8, 2011

Correct! Make World of Warcraft 2

Hawkwing · Aug 8, 2011

Expansion packs make Blizzard money. That sounds like a good plan to me.

Narrat0r · Aug 8, 2011

Foronisus said:
Correct! Make World of Warcraft 2

...no.
Making WoW2 at this point would mean a total meltdown for Blizzard. Not only it would take like 5 years to make, but with all the WoW's current playerbase, they don't really have a reason to do it.
WoW 2 will not be here anytime soon. And by "soon", I mean 15 years.

Tleno · Aug 8, 2011

Narrat0r said:
...no.
Making WoW2 at this point would mean a total meltdown for Blizzard. Not only it would take like 5 years to make, but with all the WoW's current playerbase, they don't really have a reason to do it.
WoW 2 will not be here anytime soon. And by "soon", I mean 15 years.

No, ahem, and what about Titan? Wow universe based or not, it seems to be born to replace WoW...

Foronisus · Aug 8, 2011

WoW 2 will be hit if it has better Graphic,better gameplay because its better new game than just expansions i hate wow graphics

Narrat0r · Aug 8, 2011

Foronisus said:
WoW 2 will be hit if it has better Graphic,better gameplay because its better new game than just expansions i hate wow graphics

Graphics don't make the game. NEVER. And Warcraft was always cartoony-styled. I wouldn't be surprised if Blizzard ever makes a cel-shaded Warcraft game. And yes, WoW 2 will be hit no matter what, but it will take a REALLY long time to achieve WoW's playerbase.

And Titan is a whole new franchise, it will probably be much more different than WoW. Remember Blizzard's words? "Next-gen MMO."

Tleno · Aug 8, 2011

Foronisus said:
WoW 2 will be hit if it has better Graphic,better gameplay because its better new game than just expansions i hate wow graphics

MMOs have the graphics kinda like on second or third place - gameplay is more immportant to them. What's immportant for MMOs is variety of PvP. PvE, various raids and whatever else to keep people busy for a long time, and balance, of course.
So it goes like this:
1. Lots of stuff to do (to keep those suckas playing and paying!)
2. Balance (To stop whiners)
3. Graphics (To stop whiners, but balance is still more immportant)

Narrat0r said:
Graphics don't make the game. NEVER. And Warcraft was always cartoony-styled. I wouldn't be surprised if Blizzard ever makes a cel-shaded Warcraft game. And yes, WoW 2 will be hit no matter what, but it will take a REALLY long time to achieve WoW's playerbase.

And Titan is a whole new franchise, it will probably be much more different than WoW. Remember Blizzard's words? "Next-gen MMO."

True, true... we don't even know if it's fantasy or sci-fi...

Foronisus · Aug 8, 2011

of course Gameplay is first but i dont love bad Graphics like wow has now...
And yea im waiting for Titan to see what game is it

BlackHobo · Aug 10, 2011

Titan is to compete with SWTOR's better graphics then WoW.
There not gonna make warcraft 4 until all the sc2 expansions are out, diablo 3 and its expansions are out, and titan is finished.

Would be my guess.

WoW 2 is like 20+ years away lol. and WC4 is like 10 years away.

Tleno · Aug 10, 2011

Foronisus said:
of course Gameplay is first but i dont love bad Graphics like wow has now...
And yea im waiting for Titan to see what game is it

It has pretty good graphics, I don't see why people are whining about it...

Narrat0r · Aug 10, 2011

Tleno said:
It has pretty good graphics, I don't see why people are whining about it...

Yes, WoW's graphics well stood the test of time. Blizzard added more detail and graphical settings that you usually see in modern games, to spice it up a lot. WoW's graphics are in no means bad, it's actually nice to see such a colorful game instead of the brown/gray/black pallete we see in most of today's games.

Foronisus · Aug 10, 2011

hahah wow good graphics??? i dont know do you see good wow has cartoonish and yea im going to play SWTOR because it will be the best mmo out there

also i will continue playing WC3 and creating maps because i love WC3

Tleno · Aug 10, 2011

Foronisus said:
hahah wow good graphics??? i dont know do you see good wow has cartoonish and yea im going to play SWTOR because it will be the best mmo out there also i will continue playing WC3 and creating maps because i love WC3

Nice to hear that...

Well, cartoonish graphics doesn't mean it bad. I always prefer graphical style to technical level. Not to mention that the "cartoonishness" adds flexibility to the game, making more absurd or wierd things more fitting the game... this means more fun quests, stranger monsters to fight, and very, very different landscapes to explore.

Narrat0r · Aug 10, 2011

Foronisus said:
hahah wow good graphics??? i dont know do you see good wow has cartoonish and yea im going to play SWTOR because it will be the best mmo out there also i will continue playing WC3 and creating maps because i love WC3

WoW's graphics are amazing, considering how much years has it passed and the graphics still get 5/5 in various magazines (ScreenFun for example). And SWtoR will have almost the exactly same graphics as WoW, only a little up-notched.
And good for you, a lot of people still play WC3.

Foronisus · Aug 10, 2011

nope your wrong SWTOr has way better graphics than wow... lets say 3 times better and also gameplay and everything will be better you can make yourself a story have a companion,starship everything and on wow you have nothing of theese.

Also im sry if your wow funs but this is true.(i was wow fun too but after 5 years expansions give nothing new everything is same and boring and i started to hate the graphics too)

Asomath · Aug 10, 2011

Its completely 100% true? I dont think you can be so positive if the game hasn't come out. Though, Im sure it'll still be somthing fresh.

~Asomath

Tleno · Aug 10, 2011

Foronisus said:
nope your wrong SWTOr has way better graphics than wow... lets say 3 times better and also gameplay and everything will be better you can make yourself a story have a companion,starship everything and on wow you have nothing of theese.

Also im sry if your wow funs but this is true.(i was wow fun too but after 5 years expansions give nothing new everything is same and boring and i started to hate the graphics too)

Erm, yeah, every single character in WoW could use a spaceship.
Honestly things like spaceships, companions and storiess (Altrough that's pretty unclear - if you want you can make up a story in WoW, too) are pretty much just cosmetic - they don't effect the core gameplay, they are just enjoyable (or not really) elements. So you can't say the game will be better because of those - WoW has various random fun things too, you know.
And graphics... not much of a difference - different stilistics (You could have gotten bored of the WoW style, but that doesn't mean it's graphics are bad), but on technical level they are pretty much even.

Asomath said:
Its completely 100% true? I dont think you can be so positive if the game hasn't come out. Though, Im sure it'll still be somthing fresh.

~Asomath

Yeap, variety never hurts... most of time, at least.

Super-Sheep · Aug 10, 2011

I'd choose cartoonish graphics over realistic ones pretty much any time.

Realistic ones just happen to turn out lame in my opinion. If Wow had realistic graphics... I mean... No.

Narrat0r · Aug 10, 2011

Foronisus said:
nope your wrong SWTOr has way better graphics than wow... lets say 3 times better and also gameplay and everything will be better you can make yourself a story have a companion,starship everything and on wow you have nothing of theese.

Also im sry if your wow funs but this is true.(i was wow fun too but after 5 years expansions give nothing new everything is same and boring and i started to hate the graphics too)

SWtoR's graphics ARE better, but similar to WoW. I didn't say anything about the gameplay, the game hasn't come out yet. As for companions, there are at least pets and minions to have beside you. And starships...? Where the hell are you supposed to fly in outer space in WoW? Get swallowed by the Outer Dark? Learn some logic (no offense).

"Everything is same and boring"? That's funny... because WoW got about 20GB of new content over the years, such as flying mounts, world bosses, new professions, races, classes etc. It also got very well balanced and made more player-friendly. I don't want to spoil any thoughts of yours, but get facts straight.

Foronisus · Aug 12, 2011

omg i wanted to tell that SWTOR has everything that Star Wars needs i didnt thought WoW needs Spaceships

Orcnet · Sep 11, 2011

hope they'd be the best of us! or not

Metalbear · Sep 23, 2011

Have the feeling that this thread needs to be closed. The title should now should be like "Why WoW is the best MMO compaired to the rest" xd.
To be honest, WoW will aways be working and played. Even after you dont play for a week to 3 months, the hunger inside you to kill another cow druid in the battlegrounds will torture you xd!
Damn ... another expansion ... I DAMN BLIZZARD! Oh well, time to kick some more boss asses.

Tleno · Sep 23, 2011

Well, the discussion kinda fits with the topic - I man, game already had tons of expansions, and now the game... well it's still insanely popular, but there are some other "WoW killers" appearing, like Rift, which are so much more sucessful than older ones, and WoW popularity is slowly decreasing - so it's kinda curious will the new expansion increase the popularity of WoW once more.

Super-Sheep · Sep 23, 2011

Tleno said:
Well, the discussion kinda fits with the topic - I man, game already had tons of expansions, and now the game... well it's still insanely popular, but there are some other "WoW killers" appearing, like Rift, which are so much more sucessful than older ones, and WoW popularity is slowly decreasing - so it's kinda curious will the new expansion increase the popularity of WoW once more.

About the expansions:
I have an active subrscribtion but I still like to play on 3.3.3 private servers more than on the retail. PvP is just so dumb in Cataclysm.

Edhel-dur · Sep 24, 2011

Tleno said:
Well, the discussion kinda fits with the topic - I man, game already had tons of expansions, and now the game... well it's still insanely popular, but there are some other "WoW killers" appearing, like Rift, which are so much more sucessful than older ones, and WoW popularity is slowly decreasing - so it's kinda curious will the new expansion increase the popularity of WoW once more.

It's simple. Here is the thing. Most people do not play WoW. They buy it, they play through the new content, they max out their level and stop there. They do not do endgame PvP or PvE. They simply do not... why? No clue, maybe it requires to much brains for them, or simply too much time.

That's why a lot of the subscribers, just buy a new expansion, see a little of the new content, and as things get more complicated, they stop playing.

Dynamiczx · Sep 24, 2011

Alagremm said:
Yeah, its their super secret project.

It's not such a super secret when everyone knows about it xD

Foronisus · Sep 25, 2011

i agree the subscribers number is not how much players play it right now because someone subscribe it and after a month leave it and forget to unsubscribe it and also wow from 12 milions now is down to 11,4 so lets see if Mists of Panderia change something or it will drop because new Games appear that are really good and they can crush wow belive me let me tell some of them:

Guild Wars 2
LoL Dominion
SWTOR
Dota 2... and so much more that are fun