The horus heresy and resulting theories.

[Warhunter]

Iron Warriors are cool.

 

[Tyranid]

Just in case anyone is interested in what the Chaos Gods look like, here are some old (very old!) pictures of them from the early editions of Warhammer:
http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc82/spuffpuppy/GodsAll.gif

And better pictures of Nurgle and Tzeentch:
http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc82/spuffpuppy/GodsNurg.gif
http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc82/spuffpuppy/GodsTzeentch.gif

As said these pictures are VERY OLD (some 20 years I think), but they are still pretty accurate at depicting the Chaos Gods. Only difference is that Tzeentch takes the form of a shining cloud that constantly changes it's colour when he appears to his followers.

 

[Warhunter]

Those pictures sure was really old!

 

[HailFireer]

Gods of chaos are ugly. Well I was talking about theyr avatars. But not they greater demons you can have in table top game as strongest unit.

 

[Velmarshal]

Those are not old, those are ancient.

 

[Warhunter]

You right about that.

 

[HailFireer]

I liked tzeenach most of all chaos gods, even if I'm not a fan of em. Now I hate him, and all others for that matter...

 

[Koicheen]

Found a newer picture of Nurgle!

Eww..
Well, actually, thats not Nurgle himself, thats The Great Unclean One, but pretty close.

 

[HailFireer]

Hm. I did found a page that has loads of basic miniayures on it. Wait a sec I look for it.

 

[Velmarshal]

There are pictures in the groups album at the end.

 

[Warhunter]

Found a newer picture of Nurgle!

Eww..
Well, actually, thats not Nurgle himself, thats The Great Unclean One, but pretty close.

eww... That wasen't a nice look.

 

[Velmarshal]

Gotta buy them.
Oh and BTW check the War Gods Risk Blog http://wargodsrisk.blogspot.com/ .

 

[HailFireer]

Som this is off-topic, but is anyone going on Hero Contest #2?

Velm, I checked your blog for War risk. Sounds good. I like most that it has 15 races

But, name is wrong. You sed its a classic base building and sruff. Well, tearm "Risk" usualy means same as Risiko, a tabletop game. Implemented in War 3, it has teritories and stuff, but not player absed turn, all attack and do stuff at same time. You conquare cityes, build units from em and stuff. You dont pick a rase at start (aldo that could be a nice improvement). Examples are WoW Risk, Europe risk and others.
By your description, I understand its not like I just described. So, many ppl will get it wrong.

 

[HailFireer]

Sorry for doublepost, but noone has anything to say. On any treads?? Look how much we got

 

[Velmarshal]

You can choose races at the start. And it's not turn based.

 

[HailFireer]

Ah. KK, but, you said youll have to build a base, and lvl heros, and gather resourses. Thats not a risk. Well not in War 3 on b.net.

 

[Velmarshal]

You gather resources by capturing strategic points.

 

[Warhunter]

Sounds like a sweet and nice game.

 

[HailFireer]

Oh. Right. Now you explained it like your sopose to Velm ^^
That discription on your blog makes it look like a normal builer. Basic war 3.

 

[StormWarriors2]

I gotz the hersey book

 

[Gespenst]

Guud, Guud.

 

[StormWarriors2]

apparently everyone looks badass in the hersey! LOGAR IS A DOUCHE!

 

[Gespenst]

Heretical is the new black.

 

[StormWarriors2]

lol HA not true.
gold is the new black

 

[Warhunter]

What are you talking about??

 

[StormWarriors2]

before the hersey everyone had a gold color on their armor lol

 

[Warhunter]

it's heresy, not hersey.

 

[StormWarriors2]

sry. Lol

 

[Gespenst]

Before the heresy? were talking old trends there. Get with the times, blood, spikes, chaos runes, thats the power-armor fashion nowadays.

 

[StormWarriors2]

Well lets see prehersey stuff was so cool lets just put it at that

 

[StormWarriors2]

I was thinking about a project that have initiated its called project Prehersey. Me and other skilled hobbiest have decided to make The Prehersey Imperium. I decieded to make a chapter completely dedicated to the The PreHersey before the Traitors. My Chapter Called the Storm Crusaders a Chapter Completely dedicated to the Edaractation of all the enemies of the Imperium so Dedicated are they have 20 compaines under their service

 

[StormWarriors2]

if anyone would like to start a prehersey project you can send me the pics of your starter army : D. Remember mk1-4 are to be the basis of the army and have a prehersey feel. 5-6 are ok.

 

[Tyranid]

PreHeresy chapters are against canon. Before the Heresy there were only Legions (20 legions), no Space Marine Chapters.

 

[StormWarriors2]

no perhersey look. not legions.

 

[StormWarriors2]

it can be anything that is prehersey like the imperial army or Legio custodes or/and Sisters of Slience

 

[Tyranid]

Of course the problem wtih those are that the Sisters of Silence are pretty much non-existant and the Legio Custodes no longer leave the Imperial Citadel... ever. But then again lore can be bent a little.

 

[Gespenst]

And chaos is infinitely flexible and malleable.

And I think its time I took control of my own thread again...

The four chaos gods work in tandem with each other, as all 4 aspects of chaos affect each other.

Every action of the chaos gods are a type of change, emotionally or physically fluxuating. Even Nurgle's stagnation is a type of change; The change of stagnation and rot, the wild and animorphous pleasure and pain of slaanesh, and the asundering rage of Khorne, showing Tzeentch's influence with other chaos gods and their spheres.

Another note, The dark eldar "worship(By forced appeasement)" slaanesh, However begrudgingly, they do not spurn his pleasures as their lighter bretheren do, only his yoke of soul draining.

 

[Gespenst]

Orks are usually not susceptible to chaos because of their sort of singularity, they fight and spend all time not fighting preparing to fight; they were created to be a warrior race. But they may take fighting to an overt level, bringing the temptation of Khorne; whom they may serve with bloodshed in exchange with the power to kill more. The same kind overzealousness in killing affected the space marines, most notably the World Eaters who were zealous in bloodshed to the extreme, and thus turned them to khorne worship.
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[Gespenst]

They say, that although the Emperor is an old cripple, that his phsychic aptitude is creating a godhead figure in the warp, and that someday the emperor of man will come a true "god." The worship of trillions of men is an attributing factor to the Emperor's reincarnation, just as Ork psycher powers make things in real life happen(The WAAAAAGH and faster red cars), the psychic energy of men(And eldar) feed and create warp entities, powers, and forces, which does explain the presence of gods, Chaos, Eldar, and the budding godhead Emperor of man

(sorry for the triple post[not that social groups posts count anyways] but I had a lot of information to give out and so few characters to do it with.

 

[StormWarriors2]

its understandable by the way we are talking about the hersey. i know you might know. but still it would be good to start a myth and legend and gods section : D. but the sisters of slience still kind of exist. (they are waiting for their master to call them.)

 

[StormWarriors2]

i think
DOUBLE PAST MY BAD

 

[Gespenst]

Whats the deal with Tzeentch and Necrons?

Necrons Represent permanant unchange, Void, unlike chaos which represents utter un-permanance, Change being Tzeentch's sphere. Therefore, The forces of Tzeentch and the followerers of the Ctan, Necrons, Come into conflict.

I can't say much about the sisters of silence, they appear to me to have been dusted aside because The sisters of battle handle rogue psyker "Witches". I'm thinking that the sisters of silence would be pretty strong against psyker heavy forces, like Chaos's Thousand sons or the Eldar.

 

[StormWarriors2]

uhhh just to tell Tzeentch shouldn't exist because he is the god of change which means he will change his rule so he should be dead right now.
Necrons were not awake during the HORUS HERSEY GET BACK ON TOPIC!

 

[Tyranid]

Hmmm... why should he be dead if he changes?

 

[Warhunter]

His followers are calling him the lord of change. But he don't have to be that. (Tell me if I'm wrong)

 

[StormWarriors2]

everything changes Tzeench evens says that so yeah.
GET BACK TO THE HERSEY!

 

[StormWarriors2]

In the Horus Hersey. Horus was going to kill fulgrim after the hersey was a success (which we know wasn't). in the final hours before the emperor was sealed away at the golden throne he was fighting a war in the web way. His Custodians and Sisters of Siilence fought a desperate battle agianst the billions upon billions of daemons that dwelled in the warp. Talk About if you like this battle for the emperors palace and the battle for the imperial web way. Explain throughly. Also inculde information and facts. Talk About the history. "The universe has many horrors yet to throw at us. This is not the end of our struggle. This is just the beginning of our crusade to save Humanity. Be faithful! Be strong! Be vigilant!" Emperor of Mankind the last shaman.

 

[Pyramidhe@d]

why kill fulgrim?

 

[StormWarriors2]

he was a daemon prince.

 

[Gespenst]

He was possesed by a daemon after he regretted turning to chaos, and the daemon pleases slaanesh and was promoted to daemon prince.

The battle for the imperial palace ultimately failed(For chaos.)

Tzeench cannot be swept away by change if he is change, Just as khorne cannot be killed even though he is killing. Change itself is a state of being, but then if it becomes a state of being will that not change?

Tzeench is as he is, writhed in flames and grotesque shapes.