The horus heresy and resulting theories.

[StormWarriors2]

The blade that Fulgrim carried was possessed by the prince of pleasure one slaanesh's most powerful daemons. fulgrim found it in a temple and it called to him...

 

[Gespenst]

But still, it only had fulgrim's mortal form and had it become a daemon prince.

Abaddon has a habit if saying horus sucks because horus is dead, but Abaddon pretty much fails in his own right.

 

[StormWarriors2]

YEP. Horus was way too powerful he was cocky. UHHM ABBADDON YOU HAVEN'T DESTORIED THE IMPRIEUM IN HOW MANY YEARS? YOU HAVEN'T EVEN GOTTEN CLOSE TO TERRA BECAUSE YOU ARE A DUMBASS AND YOU SUCK!!!!!! Seriously Abaddon was not as good as Loken. Loken was distracted. So abbadon used this. Loken was better faster, stronger and the best swordsmen to ever live -.- so Abaddon can go die. No one likes him anymore his legion is the counter part of the ultramarines.

 

[Gespenst]

I like the black legion, but as you so masterfully stated, abbadon sucks. So, I usually go with alpha legion, Word bearers, Or the Thousands sons(Ahriman is are a pretty cool guy who tries to invade black library of chaos and doesn't afraid of space faries[Eldar])

 

[StormWarriors2]

yeah i like the black legion but its just its lost its spark. Abbaddon has always been a ass from the start. I miss little horus from the Horus heresy books he was awesome.
!!!!!NEW, LOKEN MIGHT RETURN!!!!!!!
Also the coolest legion at the time was the Alpha Legion and the Death guard and the Dark Angels. They were awesome until they all got screwed up XD.

 

[StormWarriors2]

Answer my question!

 

[Pyramidhe@d]

death guards for me. nurgle looks like such a jolly fella. and typhus looks badass
abbadon looks like a sissy with that weird ghey hairdo

 

[Gespenst]

Blood ravens - Absent from the horus heresy BUT is descended from one of the unknown primarchs. Dark crusade says so, and it was certified by relic so it is give or take canon.

Death guard have cool gas masks.

You know doomrider? That crazy SoB. Is it just me, or do slaanesh worshippers screw everything with an orifice(and make new ones) and do cocaine().

 

[StormWarriors2]

yep its just you yor thinking of a different race.

 

[StormWarriors2]

Xd lol

 

[Gespenst]

You cant be serious... Havent you heard of Fabius bile creating new and more wonderful drugs? Like Super Cocaine?

 

[Tyranid]

Actually Blood Ravens are not descended from any of the unknown Primarchs, rather they are descended from Thousand Sons. It was outright stated in one of the Blood Raven novels (don't remember which).

 

[Gespenst]

:/ You best remember the source or withdraw that statement completely.

Though its not unheard of that there be loyalist versions of traitor legions, the thirteenth cursed founding was rumoured to have used loyalist splints of traitor legions as the geneseeds.

 

[Tyranid]

Well Dark Crusade never confirms that the Blood Ravens are descended from any of the unknown Primarchs. The closest thing said is that they speak about their "Unknown Primarch". That doesn't mean it's one of the 2 unknown primarchs, rather it means that they do not know who their primarch is.

 

[Gespenst]

Still, its open endedness provides the greatest possibility to have been descended from an unknown primarch compared to any other.

 

[StormWarriors2]

Well lets get this striaght first the BLood Ravens

 

[StormWarriors2]

are not one of the from a the unknown primarchs as described above. but they from a primarch that they have forgoten about.

 

[Gespenst]

HAH! that doesnt bar the possibility of them being from one of the ownknown primarchs!

First, edit your posts instead of making 2 parts of a broken one. Second, if you've nothing more to add to the logical discussion, then don't even bother posting and wasting my attention.

 

[StormWarriors2]

:*( sry. but you didn't answer my other question. -.-

 

[StormWarriors2]

SO ANY WAY.
What is the Coolest Legion?
And Do you Believe if any of the primarchs were killed in the horus heresy, who would you like to die? "Not the UltraMarines Primarch, and also not Horus because he already died."
Also Talk About the orgianzations that benefited after the horus hersey.

 

[Gespenst]

Alpharius lives, though this is largely unconfirmed, it is my speculation.

Night haunter died(because he wasn't completely corrupt).

The surviving Traitor primarchs are now daemon princes.

Most of the loyalist primarchs died . Ultramarines primarch didn't die he may come back in time for the "final battle."

Lion El' Johnson isn't dead, just hibernating.

Jaghati khan, and Leman russ, Vulkan and Corax aren't confirmed dead, they are likely fighting on in the warp or somewhere; The timeflow of the warp and extended lifespan of space marines support that they didn't die of age.

Ferrus manus and rogal dorn are confirmed dead, dead by traitors hands . Besides that, Sanguinu's death formed the Death Company.

Its a shame that the two unknown primarchs remain unknown, leaves many open ends like the blood ravens primarch may be one of those two unknowns.

Lesson of the day: Followers of chaos live longer.

 

[Gespenst]

With the passing of the horus heresy and the subsequent fall of the emperor(to a crippled old soul-sucker), The Adeptus Terra was formed to govern the empire because of aforementioned cause, and caused the rise of the High lords of Terra. I think the arbites were also formed to enforce the will of the government, sorta like the FBI.

The beloved inquisition was formed to help protect the empire from the heresies of the warp, and the Ecclesiarchy, with the emperor not being able to tell them not to worship him, rose to power enforcing imperial religion, with the help of the Inquisition.

Abbadon, with the death of horus, rose to power, if only to show off his FAIL.

I believe CHAOS swelled with the power released by the Horus Heresy, from every killing in their name to the every deaths of their dedicated servants.

 

[StormWarriors2]

well i may have an answer i have been making a chapter master named Asherian who possessed a mighty spear that was said too harness the soul of the imperium. My first Chapter Master Asherian could be a primarch he almost defeated Mangus the Red in COMBAT. Asherain was attacked from behind by 10 soccerors, he was weakened and magnus the red almost killed him but was saved by Malnar and the 2nd and 1st companies. Asherian dissappered. Is that close enough to a primarch or is that not.
My Chapter has 3,000 Space Marines. And has Been Around since the Second Founding. We do not know who are primarch is.

 

[StormWarriors2]

Also the Emperor is not going to die he is going to return. because of his son's and daughters will kill themselves at the same time and he shall be reborn 2x more powerful than he was before. So the Eldar Dead God can kiss my ass.

 

[Crusad3r91]

Lesson of the day: Followers of chaos live longer just to sit there in their tainted planets.

Fixed.

 

[Gespenst]

I think you're forgetting Angron who runs around spreading massive pwnage.

 

[Crusad3r91]

Yeah, I guess I forgot him; let's see:
- He fought in the First War of Armageddon, getting pwned by a hundred Grey Knights.
- He ran throught the galaxy for 2 centuries taking over 70 sectors... just to loose the 90% of them in one single crusade.

Nothing great after that... fail pretty much?

 

[Gespenst]

You're forgetting, he rampaged through imperial space for Two Centuries and it took a hundred grey knights to kill him, and it was close even at that, He killed most of them.

You can blame Abbadon's fail for losing the planets taken by the forces of chaos.

What do you mean, nothing great after that?

 

[StormWarriors2]

Yeah all the Daemon Princes/Primarchs are all stuck in the warp. Thanks to the eldar XD.

 

[Crusad3r91]

Yeah, but still he hasn't "won". He lost the Armageddon War, he lost his conquers, Abbadon or not.
By "nothing great after that" I mean the he has done nothing major after those events (or at least that's what I read =P).

And, btw, 70 systems may be quite too much even for that... but Solar Macharius conquered more than 1000 worlds in 7 years and they're still in Imperial hands.

 

[Warhunter]

Hail the Imperial!

 

[StormWarriors2]

Death to the heretics and the enemies of the imperium.
You still have not answered my questions!

 

[Warhunter]

I dunno what question that is..

 

[Tyranid]

Just to go abit back on the topic but: The Eldar are not holding the Daemon Primarchs in the Eye of Terror, the Daemon Primarchs are just too lazy and self centered to actually do anything anymore (except for a few exceptions). Also Space Marines CANNOT die of old age.

 

[Warhunter]

That's wierd. Can't die of old age..

 

[Velmarshal]

Can't die of old age..

That means only one thing, "For Valhalla!"

 

[Warhunter]

yeah!

 

[StormWarriors2]

yeah because no space marine has ever lived for a long time because they always die in war.

 

[Warhunter]

Space Marines are super soldiers.

 

[Velmarshal]

Yea! And their bolters are super sized, overpowered, 40mm rocket powered round, fastfiring limb ripping, head cracking, gut spilling, SMG. With nice iron sights.
I'm thinking, should I make a paper model?

 

[StormWarriors2]

no.
What is the Coolest legion? which one do you think was the most secertive and badass?

 

[Velmarshal]

no.

Why? I can make pretty good ones.

 

[StormWarriors2]

well paper space marines. just listen to that. that sounds noobish on steroids.

 

[Gespenst]

Paper spess mereens... Riight.

 

[Warhunter]

|_0|_

 

[Crusad3r91]

Some "Paper Eldars" and "Paper Dark Eldars" would be realistic though...

 

[StormWarriors2]

Ok serousily answer my god damn questions.

 

[Warhunter]

I don't know the answer, so I can't.. :/

 

[Crusad3r91]

I haven't seen one single question mark in your posts in the previous 5 pages... oO

 

[Warhunter]

At the top of the page. xD

no.
What is the Coolest legion? which one do you think was the most secertive and badass?