Starcraft 2, Diablo 3 or Warcraft 4?

[Gauntlet2021]

All so tempting, but which one would you most like to see?

 

[Ki]

I really would like to see starcraft remade so that it is actually balanced. Better graphics and new gameplay would be nice.

 

[olofmoleman]

Yes, SC 2, Warcraft is cool enough, and I never played Diablo

 

[Daminon]

These threads are so boring. Anyway Starcraft for me. I really can't think of what new original stuff could be in a sequel to Diablo II, and I think the wc3 saga has reached its' end. But if the make a sequel to Starcraft, they have to try really hard or not do it at all. Starcraft is well balanced. What we want to is continuation of the story. There is already big forums for just these discussions.

 

[Elvorith]

Well, I think WoW will be seen by Blizzard for the new Warcraft,so no Warcraft 4, and YES, Starcraft would be great, but with better graphics ... Diablo, never tried, saw it, but it looked crappy, sorry :lol:

-Elvorith

 

[Rui]

Would love to see Warcraft 4.

 

[King_Ryan]

They shud make a starcraft mmorpg
I say Warcraft 4, they shud make another one like warcraft 3.

 

[Dr Super Good]

WC4 I would like to see.
They could up multiplayer map size to 10-20 MB due to new graffics and conection speeds allowing even better maps.
They could also add multiplayer multimap suportiability.

Sadly this is but a dream.
Since can you not see that blizzard will never release another game like WC3 due to the lack of income.
Think about it they made WoW and then straight onto a WoW expansion and blizzard is making Starcraft ghost (both mmorpg)

It does not pay them enough to make another game like wc3. WoW has brought in more money than wc1-3tft has ever due to the monthly fees.

The only way they would make WC4 or SC2 is if people would pay them the same fees if not more than that of WoW.

All very sad to think about having to pay to play. . .

 

[ben_xuereb]

realy i would prefer something new, blizzard make too many sequals and not enough orignal games

 

[Daminon]

The thing is that Blizzard's games are so good that no one want's them to end. We want sequels.

 

[Ramza]

The thing is that Blizzard's games are so good that no one want's them to end. We want sequels.

yep

i rly want a warcraft 4, i also played diablo 2 for 2-3 years, but i like warcraft 3 much more, the gameplay is so good. i hate it that every game becomes 3d.. i never play them

 

[Daminon]

The thing is that Blizzard's games are so good that no one want's them to end. We want sequels.

yep

i rly want a warcraft 4, i also played diablo 2 for 2-3 years, but i like warcraft 3 much more, the gameplay is so good. i hate it that every game becomes 3d.. i never play them

WHY THE HELL DOES PEOPLE PREFER 2D?! Real life is 3d. Everythinh looks better and faaar more realistic in 3d. Much more posibilitis in 3d. Able to zoom and gives camera freedom in 3d. Ever heard the 3d simulated projectiles in Total Annihilation that was such an awsome thing? Would you prefer if the graphics stoped at 2d? Glad to dissapoint you. Graphics won't stop until you can't see the differece between game and movie.

 

[Ki]

That's just a difference in what game type you prefer. It really doesn't have anything to do with liking 2D or 3D better.

 

[Gauntlet2021]

"Think about it they made WoW and then straight onto a WoW expansion and blizzard is making Starcraft ghost (both mmorpg)"
Actually, Starcraft ghost isnt MMO.

 

[ben_xuereb]

what do you mean "making" i thought it was already made

 

[olofmoleman]

The thing is that Blizzard's games are so good that no one want's them to end. We want sequels.

yep

i rly want a warcraft 4, i also played diablo 2 for 2-3 years, but i like warcraft 3 much more, the gameplay is so good. i hate it that every game becomes 3d.. i never play them

WHY THE HELL DOES PEOPLE PREFER 2D?! Real life is 3d. Everythinh looks better and faaar more realistic in 3d. Much more posibilitis in 3d. Able to zoom and gives camera freedom in 3d. Ever heard the 3d simulated projectiles in Total Annihilation that was such an awsome thing? Would you prefer if the graphics stoped at 2d? Glad to dissapoint you. Graphics won't stop until you can't see the differece between game and movie.

Realistic is not always good, 3D is different, not better.

 

[Ramza]

The thing is that Blizzard's games are so good that no one want's them to end. We want sequels.

yep

i rly want a warcraft 4, i also played diablo 2 for 2-3 years, but i like warcraft 3 much more, the gameplay is so good. i hate it that every game becomes 3d.. i never play them

WHY THE HELL DOES PEOPLE PREFER 2D?! Real life is 3d. Everythinh looks better and faaar more realistic in 3d. Much more posibilitis in 3d. Able to zoom and gives camera freedom in 3d. Ever heard the 3d simulated projectiles in Total Annihilation that was such an awsome thing? Would you prefer if the graphics stoped at 2d? Glad to dissapoint you. Graphics won't stop until you can't see the differece between game and movie.

Realistic is not always good, 3D is different, not better.

yes, i agree 3D looks better, but u cant have 3D strategic games like warcraft III, which is what i like the most

 

[Daminon]

Realistic is not always good, 3D is different, not better.

When isn't is it not?

You don't want games to feel closer to reality? Then why should movies look like reality? The only differense between movies and games is that you are a part of the movie and that games doesn't look as real as movies, yet.

yes, i agree 3D looks better, but u cant have 3D strategic games like warcraft III, which is what i like the most

Give one argument.

And please understand that all games are not ment to be a simulated reality such as puzzle games and such. So don't mention any such.

 

[Ramza]

Give one argument

well.. have u ever seen a 3D strategic game? u just dont have a good overview on ur units in a 3D world, thats why in all 3D games u play with 1 unit ( + maybe some mercs that follow u or whatever)

 

[Daminon]

That doesn't make any sense. Do you mean that the camera is hard to get right becouse it isn't locked? It gives too much freedom? It makes no difference and what is better than zooming in on your troops and look at their direction when they shoot at the storming enemy?

 

[Ki]

Technically, any game with models is 3D. I guess Warcraft III is as well.

 

[Daminon]

Ehm what other definiation would there be?

 

[Ki]

i rly want a warcraft 4, i also played diablo 2 for 2-3 years, but i like warcraft 3 much more, the gameplay is so good. i hate it that every game becomes 3d.. i never play them

I thought Ramza suggested that wc3 wasn't a 3D game. When he said that he never played 3D games, I thought he was referring to MMORPGs. He said the wc3 gameplay is so good, but then said he never plays 3D games. Did I misinterpret?

 

[Ramza]

ok, wc3 has 3D models, but it hasnt got a real height, like buildings woith roofs, or under the ground isnt possible to, the units and doodads r the only 3D objects on the game, the rest 2D

 

[DarkShadow]

Any real 3D strategic game?

Homeworld (the only game you really can call "3D")
Warzone 2100
Supreme Commander (release in 2007)
Earth 2150/2160
etc.

Although Supreme Commander is the only one you can call a strategic game, all in all WC3 and other games are tactic games (but that's another story).

 

[Ramza]

ok, so there Are 3D strategic and tactical games (i never heard of those games, they look very nice ) ill explain different, i just like games from above, not third of first person or following one character

 

[Daminon]

Ramza the roofs and such is not a requirement for something to be classified as 3d. Not is real use of height either. Those things aren't not a required to be used just becouse they are fully possible. It's just that Blizzard didn't want to have it in wc3. It's like saying that every projectile should be 3d-simulated (glory to Total Annihilation and Supreme Commander) just becouse it's possible with 3d. Take gryphos attacking each other for example, if a unit comes in the way it wont be hit unless the units are ordered to cancel their current attack and attack it instead. I wouldn't require big changes, but again Blizzard din't didn't find it neccesary.. Actually roof and house levels can be compared to that a units arm can sitck out from the body. See there is a height level between the ground and his arm so it's nothing but true 3d.

 

[Ramza]

yes there is a height difference between the arms of units and the ground, but i mean, heights so u can walk underneath it. and heights are needed for 3D games cuz 3D without heights its 2D right? but yes i know wc3 is 3D, read my last topic and u c why i like wc3-like games more

 

[Gauntlet2021]

This whole debate depends on wiether you mean 3D graphics or 3D gameplay. :?

 

[Daminon]

This whole debate depends on wiether you mean 3D graphics or 3D gameplay. :?

Perfect.

As long as there is 3d directoions to move in and every point requires 3 coordinates it's fully 3d.

 

[aarkshark]

3D RTS games do work out fine, if you dont believe me, go play Black & White 2, then come back and tell me that 3d RTS games are bad...

 

[Chaosarmy]

i'd have to go with Warcraft 4 because diablo isnt that great and i have never played starcraft... i shd. o well anyways.. warcraft 3 ended on a cliff hanger and i want to know what happens later in the campaign. Does anyone know if they are working on a war4 yet?

 

[Daminon]

The most probable is that they are making Diablo III. I think there might even be profes these days. And after that they will probably make Wow 2, and then an expansion for it.

 

[Ki]

Does anyone know if they are working on a war4 yet?

I highly doubt it.

 

[Emperor Ing]

I dont care, but even though i never played StarCraft, its about time that really old game got a sequel. :roll:

 

[Gauntlet2021]

Personally, i find Diablo 2 to be an excellent game, i might even say its the funnest ive ever played (not as long lived as WC3 though)

 

[milcon]

-.- its not that simple

For one thing, ive heard their bringing about a Diablo3, heres my source of this-
http://www.maximumgamerz.com/forums/index.php?s=0a56d67a9662e60f93ecb487f800c507&showtopic=2916

For 2, it all depends. What does Starcraft have to go on? they could expand it so much with maybe new races, as far as i remember all the zergs are officially gone in Brood War so there'd have to be a new evil and maybe a few other races. Warcraft4? whadya mean by that? some people call WoW warcraft4
Do you mean Warcraft4 as in another RTS or another MMORPG or soemthing other even! Diablo3, i seriously dun see how it could keep going on even though their making one supposedly( hey at least this link is more then a rumor, its a direct source, so use it as so or itll start getting passed around and changed.

 

[Ki]

Personally, i find Diablo 2 to be an excellent game

I'm suprised my mouse lasted through the demo.

 

[Daminon]

Re: -.- its not that simple

What does Starcraft have to go on? they could expand it so much with maybe new races, as far as i remember all the zergs are officially gone in Brood War so there'd have to be a new evil and maybe a few other races.

Ehm check this forum about Stacraft II. And there is many things to continue on in Starcraft. And the zergs are not gone. It was they who were "victorious" in Brood War. What is gone is the UED fleet.

 

[Daveman]

No warcraft 4 needed, WoW is gonna be the last warcraft game i bet

D3 or sc22 would own

 

[Gauntlet2021]

Quote:
Personally, i find Diablo 2 to be an excellent game


I'm suprised my mouse lasted through the demo.

Do you mean this in a good way, or a bad way? Cuz it could be both.

 

[Ramza]

i think the bad way, in the start i didnt know u could let ur mouse button clicked in, i just clikced it every half sec to let it walk (dunno if u mean that )

 

[Ki]

I guess it would be more bad than good considering my mouse would have to be replaced rather quickly (didn't you have to click for every attack?). I was just commenting on the excessive clicking, although I may have been doing it too much because I didn't know any hotkeys.

If they were to give the game better security, less clicking, better graphics, and more features, I think I'd buy it.

 

[dudeofwar]

I vote for Wc4 this is the best strategie game and another game of it wouldnt be bad also starcraft 2 would be really interesting

 

[milcon]

LAST WARCRAFT GAME? are you insane. If WoW is the last Warcraft game ima be mad. Im going to be even more mad if sometime or another they stop changin WoW. The Warcraft story must keep on going, if they suddenly end it on a cliff hanger, or even the Warcraft world blows up in some stupid crazy way, i would hate Blizzard for Eternity!!!! I tihkn i feel this way because ive been playing Warcraft games since in kindergarden .

 

[penguinsmasher]

I'd prefer Starcraft 2. It's because it's the only game of the 3 games that didn't get a sequel yet. An expansion pack? Yes, but a full-blown sequel? Not yet. Diablo had Diablo 2. Warcraft had Warcraft 2, then Warcraft 3, and you can probably say WoW is a sequel for the series as well, so I think it's time Starcraft needed a makeover as well.

Most people would often prefer 2d to 3d graphics because it's nostalgic and reminds them of the good old days. (*sigh* the good old days...) Plus, with Starcraft's 2d graphics, it's much easier, albeit limited, to do the triggers.

A Starcraft rpg wouldn't be much of a good idea, considering the ENORMOUS number of lore clashes that Blizzard gave to WoW, it would be hell if they made a Starcraft MMORPG. (Imagine fighting a lvl 90 Tassadar, even though he died when the carrier crashed and blew up. Even if fun, it would still be quite impossible unless, the Protoss had developed a holographic simulator. I think the Terrans did it, considering when you finish the training level, the woman tells you that you are prepared for the real thing.)

 

[milcon]

Oh yeah, you didnt have to press for every attack, AND not for every move. If you held the move button down it keeps going in the direction your mouse is. Attacking you just hold down the attack on the monster

 

[Daminon]

I will eat everyone who wants Starcraft to be someting else than an RTS game. And those who mention MMORPG...

Good that Stacraft Ghost was canceled.

 

[Gauntlet2021]

Yes, i agree. Starcraft 2 should NOT be anything but an rts.
Also, where did you here Starcraft Ghost was cancelled? Last i heard, they were retuning it :?

 

[Daminon]

Maybe you are right but they removed it from Blizzards site and just search for "starcraft ghost canceled" on google and you see lots of things about it.