Starcraft 2: C&C3 Clone?

[CaptainKBX]

Yes, as the title says, SC2 may be a CNC3 Clone. I mean seriously, the Reapers are very similar to Commandoes, there are the Motherships, which have shields and kill unit and building practically instantly, and the Tripods, which are powerful tanks. Don't forget the features, like no heroes, or selection limit. Yeah yeah, start up the flamethrowers, you noobs.

 

[Kimbo]

OH DEAR GOD. SUE.

sc2 has been in development for over 3 years or more =_=

 

[CaptainKBX]

Wasn't sayin nothing about lawsuits, just sayin they're similar...

 

[SimonKurciski]

Well, which was first, SC1 or C&C1? Either way, I don't see any reason that blizzard would copy C&C....they're pretty original on their own.

 

[ragingspeedhorn]

Well, which was first, SC1 or C&C1? Either way, I don't see any reason that blizzard would copy C&C....they're pretty original on their own.

Seeing as there has been released 7 C&C games then what series do you think came first.

 

[PurplePoot]

Don't forget, SC hasn't had a sequel in 10 years, raging.

I think C&C was first, but the "how many sequels" reasoning isn't very good.

Yes, as the title says, SC2 may be a CNC3 Clone. I mean seriously, the Reapers are very similar to Commandoes, there are the Motherships, which have shields and kill unit and building practically instantly, and the Tripods, which are powerful tanks. Don't forget the features, like no heroes, or selection limit. Yeah yeah, start up the flamethrowers, you noobs.

-Reapers are basically marines with a modified spider mine... they're not too unique, except for their jump packs; do these commandoes have that?

-Motherships; Every protoss unit since StarCraft has had shields, so the first part of that point is already a little stupid. (No offence) As for the second part, you're basically saying that things with high damage are CnC clones? Again, yeah...

-Colossi are not tanks, but giant tripods... Even so, they're from War of the Worlds.

Also, keep in mind, SC2 was started in 2003. (Or 2004?)

 

[ragingspeedhorn]

The first C&C came in 1994 or 1995, I can't remember exactly which of the 2 but I think it was '95.

And ofcourse it is good reasoning Poot, even if Starcraft was released same year as C&C1 it would be kind of hard to spew out 7 games in 9 years.

 

[PurplePoot]

A lot of them are very very similar, though. They appear to mostly use the same engine, and everything else except for artwork and unit stats. (And then, of course, the harvesting difference from Tiberian Sun and CnC/Red Alert)

Note: I haven't played CnC Generals or CnC3, just CnC, Tiberian Sun & Expansion, Red Alert, Red Alert 2 & Expansion

 

[HeretoDLstuff]

there are the Motherships, which have shields and kill unit and building practically instantly,

Mother ships dont kill building instantly. 2 of them casted planet cracker and didnt kill them even.

and the Tripods, which are powerful tanks.

Oh come on.....EVERYBODY uses tripods....theres no saying who made what first....Thats such a freaking common idea, its been banging around for ages...

Don't forget the features, like no heroes, or selection limit.

Haveing no heros makes it a copy HOW? Ive played games other than that, witch have selection limit and not selection limit...wich came before CnC3...

Yeah yeah, start up the flamethrowers, you noobs.

Why are you calling people noobs for no reason?

I havent played CnC3, but I dont think either of themn are really copying each other....They both just use some common ideas.
You only said a few units: I hardly think that classifiys as a game copy...

 

[ragingspeedhorn]

Graphics has improved through all the games, though yes, the first 2 games probably used the same engine modified and upgraded in the second game. But besides from those 2 games I don't see any sorts of similarities in graphics quality or much else.

Tiberium Sun was nothing like Red Alert 2 in any way.

 

[Gilles]

Wow, CaptainKBX got owned. He hasn't even responded.

 

[PurplePoot]

Oh, I forgot to say that a large % of RTSes have unlimited selection, that doesn't make CnC special.

SC was originally going to have it, I don't really know why they took it out.

And raging, I said Tiberian Sun was way different than RA.

 

[ragingspeedhorn]

No you just said the harvesting was, which is actually much of the same just without the loss of HP

 

[Massive_attack]

SC2 and CnC3 are nothing alike. To say that they are is to slap every starcraft and command and conquer fan in the face, theyre SO different its not even comparable. Theyre engines are so different it boggles the mind to think that they could be in any way, shape or form, the same. The two were created a while back and even then were different, i find it retarded to call this game a clone of anything but its original, StarCraft or (in graphic terms) (on some forums) Warcraft 3 (i dont actualy belive that either, others may though).

Oh well, its just opinion really but... come on man they are almost polar opposites on most of the fundamentals of RTS's... like reasources.

Oh and on your unit comment: half of that shit was in SC1, the other half has been shit around by hollywood and game companies for years, therefore the "mothership" idea is negated along with the tripod tank issue too. I ask you this also: did SC1 have any heroes? NO. so thats out too.

 

[ragingspeedhorn]

Sc is a clone of Wc2. Or started out as.

 

[Mechanical Man]

Both games still share a big characteristic. Both have the same quadratic (nearly wide as long) units, which along with buildings seem like it was designed by some people on crack.

 

[Tyranid]

What are you people smoking? The Colossus has 4 LEGS! Only the artwork of them has 3, but the ingame model has 4!

 

[Massive_attack]

Yess but its alright because A: they use roughly the same engine and B because well its made by the same people (responding to raging).

 

[CaptainKBX]

Yeah, they are similar, but more different than they are similar (That doesn't sound grammatically correct).

Well, Mostly the idea of powerful tripods, though the colossus may not be a tripod anymore, and three sides and everything...Wait! What if it's the other way around:CNC was getting desperate so they stole ideas from Blizzard....

 

[PurplePoot]

The look is that of a tripod, Tyranid. (As in those of War of the Worlds)

 

[Massive_attack]

CnC was released before SC2 was, hell even before SC2 screenshots came out.

Therefore they did not steal from either one.

 

[ragingspeedhorn]

But then again CnC3 totally blows, just like Generals. EA ruined the franchise.

 

[Massive_attack]

Lol, i kinda agree with that, they should have just remade tib sun or something, alot of the new story elements make no sense after tib sun.

 

[Shadow_Fox]

This thread delivers with lols.
Oh and i bet sc2 will suck as much as CNC3 did. (tbh generals was fun)

 

[Massive_attack]

What the f*ck shadow ? What have you seen about the game that indicates that massive level of suck ?

Edit: CnC generals was by far the worst RTS i can remember playing. hands down, the worst.

 

[Shadow_Fox]

I'm pessimistic, and the super units remind me of stupidity and imbalance.

 

[MySpaceBarBroke]

Yes, as the title says, SC2 may be a CNC3 Clone. I mean seriously, the Reapers are very similar to Commandoes

Former prisoners that use jet packs? I'm listening.

there are the Motherships, which have shields

Like all of the other protoss units? Were you thinking about that when you were masturbating your pride by telling yourself how much of an awesome conspiracy theorist you are?

and kill unit and building practically instantly

Like a superweapon should?

and the Tripods, which are powerful tanks.

AAAH WAR OF THE WORLDS STOLE FROM CNC3 BY TRAVELING TO THE FUTURE AND TAKING THE IDEA OF TRIPODS

Don't forget the features, like no heroes, or selection limit.

Funny thing, really. I was playing the original starcraft and warcraft 3 the other day and they also had such an odd phenomenon. Because, clearly, it was Command and Conquer 3 that invented the selection limit. And starcraft clearly had heroes in melee games as well.

Yeah yeah, start up the flamethrowers, you noobs.

1. "Pot. Kettle. Black."
2. "IM SO AWESOME COS I TINK I CAN PREDICT FLAMING BY FLAMING TEM FURST LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL"

 

[PurplePoot]

You didn't have to be so harsh, but I'm totally with you, MSBB.

 

[Massive_attack]

MSBB Gets the sh*t done. had he been alerted to this sooner, it would have saved us valuable time in our lives making singular bashes to the thread whereas MSBB just kind of bulldozed it, i cannot think of anything more to say rather than thank you, MySpaceBarBroke, for a job well done.

 

[MySpaceBarBroke]

You didn't have to be so harsh, but I'm totally with you, MSBB.

Sorry. I'm feeling pissed today. Perhaps because I was having a rather happy day today until Jigsaw here made that last sentence of his, or because I just finished all three endings of Deus Ex and now I'm bored.

 

[Gilles]

I find it amusing when people come to a forum, say something that he/she knows will stir up the community, then leaves.

There have been a bunch of posts repeating each other, and the person who started the thread probably hasn't even thought about looking at this thread.

 

[MySpaceBarBroke]

He posted twice in this thread, and his last activity was on the day he posted it. I wouldn't consider it guerilla posting just yet. Maybe he just forgot he had an account two days ago.

 

[Massive_attack]

When your thread gets owned this bad, you shut the f*ck up, sit down, troll for a month, and THEN you get the right to talk again, Or, if your a moron, you look for other places on the forum or other forums that may pwn you slightly less.

 

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

No.

Question answered. Discussion over.

 

[MySpaceBarBroke]

No.

Question answered. Discussion over.

w00t ice cream party!

 

[Gilles]

Off-topic: MSBB, where do you find all your comics, you write them yourself?

Edit: Never mind, I found the site.

 

[ragingspeedhorn]

*sigh*

Thread closed.