Shout Box

[JCarrill0]

I was looking for one to shout out I am headed to be online for some games if anyone was interested.

Thought of using chat, but the chat can't be seen unless you are IN the chat at that time. not to mention later on, most people who are in it, wont see it later.

Any chance of getting a shout box put on THW?

 

[Eagle XI]

:/
C'mon you arent that loony.

 

[JCarrill0]

:/
C'mon you arent that loony.

?

 

[Ralle]

A shoutbox? How about the chat or off topic?

 

[JCarrill0]

How about the chat?

hmm...

Thought of using chat, but the chat can't be seen unless you are IN the chat at that time. not to mention later on, most people who are in it, wont see it later.

How about off topic?

Sure if you don't mind me double, triple, quadruple posting updates when someone may or may not be reading...

A shoutbox?

yes, a shout box, Would defiantly be the great option

 

[Eagle XI]

"oMg joIN my DoTa map!plz 1111!"
err..
nope

 

[Solu9]

"oMg joIN my DoTa map!plz 1111!"
err..
nope

Yeah because we are all like that.

 

[Magtheridon96]

I've been frequenting Chat almost every day for the last 3 years.

This sort of thing happens very rarely to the extent that I can note 2 minor incidents in the last couple of years and that's about it.

 

[JCarrill0]

can anyone explain why its a bad idea?
I cant really see why it wouldn't be..
I say try it, if it doesn't work out because it becomes an issue or is under utilized then you remove it.. least we gave it a shot...

 

[Pharaoh_]

Why can't you have two separate tabs, one for the chat and the other for browsing Hive? If you want them to automatically open, you could change the configuration settings in Chrome (not sure how Mozilla works, neither what browser you are using).

 

[JCarrill0]

Why can't you have two separate tabs, one for the chat and the other for browsing Hive? If you want them to automatically open, you could change the configuration settings in Chrome (not sure how Mozilla works, neither what browser you are using).

That still never answered the question I asked.

The point of the thread here is a suggestion. The idea should be considered as a proposal, not just a thread of replies how to not to use the shout box idea.
I asked you consider using it for it's benefits. I also requested replies based on reason why it may not be a good idea.

If THW is not interested or not willing to even consider this as an idea, then say so and end the thread. *Shrug*

 

[Ralle]

hmm...

Sure if you don't mind me double, triple, quadruple posting updates when someone may or may not be reading...


yes, a shout box, Would defiantly be the great option

So you're saying it's going to be a place where people will spam multi posts?

 

[JCarrill0]

So you're saying it's going to be a place where people will spam multi posts?

A shout box anyone can see, while a chat would be something we would have to talk everyone into doing, Just to see it. when i was suing it, there is not that many people who actually use it, not to mention you have to Tab over or configure a popup just to see it. If someone chooses not to use it or forget to make an extra tab just for chat, they miss out on anything being shouted. also if they are not online during the point of the chat, anything is void anyways.

A shout box someone can shout and log off, someone that log on an hour later can still see the shout the person left.

There is a distinct difference between a shot box, a chat box, and a Forum post.

If you could keep an open mind here, instead of think how NOT to use it, or bypassing it by coming up with different ideas, try thinking of what we can do actually using it.

 

[GhostWolf]

That sounds oddly familiar...because it's a forum post.

 

[Solu9]

Now now gentlemen. I only think it's fair you explain why a shout box is a bad idea.

 

[General Frank]

A shout box works on a medium-small site, but the Hive is not medium-small and people would spam the hell out of that shoutbox.
On personal note, I think that shout boxes are way too unprofessional anyway. What purpose do they have?

 

[JCarrill0]

A shout box works on a medium-small site, but the Hive is not medium-small and people would spam the hell out of that shoutbox.
On personal note, I think that shout boxes are way too unprofessional anyway. What purpose do they have?

This is what I gather:

"sort of communicating your members would otherwise engage in when making and replying to posts normally - it's more of a big chat room. Some forums think a shoutbox is completely unnecessary, but others couldn't live without it."

and also this:

Some people think that a shoutbox takes content away from the forum itself. Then, it all depends on what your forum is about. For an example, if your forum is a role playing one, then you're not going to role play in a tiny shoutbox that limits characters. So it wouldn't (couldn't) take away from the main role of that type of forum.

A lot think it takes away for general type of forums, because instead of making new threads for discussions, people will tend to shout in the shoutbox. Even then though, with there being a limit of what, 256 characters, you can only type so much. It's just much easier to have little conversations with people on the forum, especially those who may not have stuff such as Skype etc.

I also think its not for just small-Medium communities, nor unprofessional.
If I may, https://ufplanets.com/forum.php is a Big community, not to mention VERY professional! They are also very different form what THIS community is all about. Point being was its not just for small, nor unprofessional sites.

 

[Magtheridon96]

How long until someone (like me) starts randomly shouting "PENIS"?

 

[JCarrill0]

How long until someone (like me) starts randomly shouting "PENIS"?

so you only see the negative, not any positive?

 

[Eagle XI]

99.9% of people wouldnt use it for anything else than trolling around anyways leading to the situation of not being utilized at all by the remaining 0.01% because 'full of useless garbage', which in turn would lead us to removal of a non-functional function, all the while wondering why on earth would have got added in at the first place.
Only in a perfect world you visit a place where you shout the lobby you are just going into and then actual people which happen to be somehow miraculously interested in the current thing you play(matrix?cthulhuminati?) do actually join, overall sounds too utopic to me for even bothering.

 

[Pharaoh_]

99.9% of people wouldnt use it for anything else than trolling around anyways leading to the situation of not being utilized at all by the remaining 0.01% because 'full of useless garbage', which in turn would lead us to removal of a non-functional function, all the while wondering why on earth would have got added in at the first place.

Don't use wannabe statistics to make a point. If you are against the idea, simply state why.

@JCarrill0, I don't mind the idea, really. I just don't see the utility other than integrating it in every single page you visit - which is something I'd rather not have. Thus, I don't mind it, only in the case we have the option to disable it within User CP.

 

[JCarrill0]

Don't use wannabe statistics to make a point. If you are against the idea, simply state why.

Exactly, especially when inaccurate one at that.

@JCarrill0, I don't mind the idea, really. I just don't see the utility other than integrating it in every single page you visit - which is something I'd rather not have. Thus, I don't mind it, only in the case we have the option to disable it within User CP.

I tend to agree myself! That's all I was asking for honestly, but people are more interested to shoot down the idea then try it and give it a fair chance.

 

[Pharaoh_]

Exactly, especially when inaccurate one at that.

I tend to agree myself! That's all I was asking for honestly, but people are more interested to shoot down the idea then try it and give it a fair chance.

Well, I understand, but you know, if people won't eventually use it, then the point of it being implemented is lost. Suggestions go with the majority, fortunately or not.

Thanks for your trying to make the site better though!

 

[JCarrill0]

Well, I understand, but you know, if people won't eventually use it, then the point of it being implemented is lost. Suggestions go with the majority, fortunately or not.

Thanks for your trying to make the site better though!

and if it doesn't get used and ends up being taken down, at least I tried, and that's all I ask.

it seems like those are not willing to see that even TRY to happen.

 

[Ralle]

I'm sorry. I just never saw the appeal.

 

[Orcnet]

If THW is not interested or not willing to even consider this as an idea, then say so and end the thread.

I'll have to side with the users deciding not to up the idea, sure its kinda cool and works on a limited work space but since this forum is huge and the amount of users going in and out about certain stuff every day--

--I wouldn't want a shout box while someone spams "NOTICE ME SENPAI PLEASE!!!!" puff on the scene.

 

[JCarrill0]

I'll have to side with the users deciding not to up the idea, sure its kinda cool and works on a limited work space but since this forum is huge and the amount of users going in and out about certain stuff every day--

--I wouldn't want a shout box while someone spams "NOTICE ME SENPAI PLEASE!!!!" puff on the scene.

but again you seem to only see a negative effect and it without giving it a chance to show any potential for a positive.

Do you feel shout boxes are really that bad? Do you think everyone here at THW are that immature?

I just feel a lot member here are a bit more mature then that! I know it can happen like that, but you guys make it seem it would be non-stop.

 

[Kyrbi0]

I can see the reasoning, but I'm not sure I agree.

Not exactly sure why. I do think it would be too easily-abused, though, and that the functionality could be replicated ("better to have 1 tool perform many tasks, rather than 1 tool for each of many tasks", as no one once said. ).

Really, there shouldn't be a big problem with a thread (similar to Xarwin's) for "playing games", and just posting again & again on it. Sure, it's technically "double-posting" (or triple or quadruple, etc), but that's really a rule that is meant to stop people from spamming or being incessant; a topic such as the one described would be neither.

i.e. an exception to the rule might prove more useful than an entire new functionality (coding, implementing, testing, fixing, updating, etc) that must be maintained & then policed.

 

[Magtheridon96]

Do you think everyone here at THW are that immature?

You'd be surprised

 

[JCarrill0]

You'd be surprised

Would I?

 

[Death Adder]

I thought of how a shout box maybe could be implemented.

So the reasons why shout box is looked down on is because you'd see any crap anybody 'shout'.

Maybe when you shout it has to be linked to a thread (perhaps limited to ones you've started yourself) and only people subscribed to that thread would see the shout, you'd obviously have filters with options to customize what's being shown and so on.

So if JCarrill0 (or actually Xarwin in this example) were to go to this shout box and select "Looking for Warcraft III Players (Normal & Custom)" and/or other threads from their list then the group of people who've shown interest would be notified, unless they've changed their options to disable it or unsubscribed from the thread, without bothering anybody else.

 

[GreeN!X]

So a chatbox that keeps the messages when you log off/on and is always visible while browsing any forum?