Severe AI issues

[Warrior of Sunlight]

im currently trying to make a campaign map, I disabled the ability for the Horde to create the Tauren as well as the Tauren Hero and the Tauren Totem. for the humans I made them unable to make dwarf gyrcopters and mortars. I changed the human steam tank to a ballista in function and looks. But for some reason now the orcs will not make a beastiary, or upgrade their town halls. The humans do this as well and for some reason they don’t build sorcresses, priests nor “Ballista”s. So now the armies only composite of Footmen, “Crossbowmen” (modified dwarf gunners to look and sound like crossbowmen), and the Horde only composites of Troll spearman and Grunts. I have no idea why this happened and have not been able to find out through trial and error. All their gold mines have 15k gold so I wonder if low amounts of gold stunts technology level. But at the moment I’m dead stopped, I don’t want to spend another week building my map if it turns out to be broken. Any information would be highly higlhy highly appreciated.

*edit*: it seems the orcs nor the humans ever upgrade the townhall/great hall thus they can never actually build the better units but I still have no idea why.

 

[MasterWarlord]

If the AI's script is ever ordered to make those things that you told it not to make, it will never make anything else, because it's trying to make something it's banned from making. Orc AI may be trying to build tauren totem at tier 2 to make spirit walkers, or something. If you don't want to edit their AI, just turn the tauren totem/tauren into beastiary/raiders in the object editor, or something.

 

[Warrior of Sunlight]

If the AI's script is ever ordered to make those things that you told it not to make, it will never make anything else, because it's trying to make something it's banned from making. Orc AI may be trying to build tauren totem at tier 2 to make spirit walkers, or something. If you don't want to edit their AI, just turn the tauren totem/tauren into beastiary/raiders in the object editor, or something.

If that’s the case should I change the script “melee game - run AI” to “campaign - run campaign AI”?

 

[Wrda]

If you changed object data you need to import that data to the AI editor, and you need to check your build order, if you are ordering them to build something that requires another building and you put the required building after the first one, it will be stuck.

 

[Warrior of Sunlight]

If you changed object data you need to import that data to the AI editor, and you need to check your build order, if you are ordering them to build something that requires another building and you put the required building after the first one, it will be stuck.

So if I have to edit the AI itself to change its build order to remove the building/units I told them they cant build how would I go about doing that?

Edit: managed to find it, while I was looking around at it it only has the Townhall and 5 peasants in its build priority. Is that normal?
I went to change the map the AI editor was selected on and it says my map “file path” is too long

 

[Wrda]

Townhall and 5 peasants are the starting units on human race...so pretty normal, if you were then to put keep and then castle, you'd be stuck, because castle requires altar of kings.

 

[Warrior of Sunlight]

Townhall and 5 peasants are the starting units on human race...so pretty normal, if you were then to put keep and then castle, you'd be stuck, because castle requires altar of kings.

Well I’m that case I don’t see anything that would be wrong for it not building them. Everything in the AI settings seems normal, but they still won’t upgrade anything higher than a townhall or greathall

 

[tulee]

Have you had a look at the how the AI is made in other campaigns? It is really easy once you get accustomed to it.

Shadows of Hatred v1.4

Rise of the Blood Elves v3.0

You can open those campaigns up and see how AI is made.

For bug-fixing AI problems, it is best to watch you AI build/train and to see where it stops at in terms of the "build order", and then isolate which step is the one where problems begin.

 

[Warrior of Sunlight]

Have you had a look at the how the AI is made in other campaigns? It is really easy once you get accustomed to it.

Shadows of Hatred v1.4

Rise of the Blood Elves v3.0

You can open those campaigns up and see how AI is made.

For bug-fixing AI problems, it is best to watch you AI build/train and to see where it stops at in terms of the "build order", and then isolate which step is the one where problems begin.

With where they stop, they simply never contruct beyond or upgrade the townhall/great hall but I have no idea why they won’t, their build order in the campaign is pretty normal and everything, they just won’t

 

[Wrda]

Upload a test map with your AI.

 

[Warrior of Sunlight]

Upload a test map with your AI.

I was using the basic melee map AI, I made it so the orcs can’t build Tauren and the Humans can’t make Dwarven stuff, I’ve already gone through 8 test runs on the map I’m making itself