Restricted Complex 601 3.09

[Yahtzeepwnsu]

@Cweener
Maybe I'm not the one that has to reply to this, but srsly do not play the game once and write a review, you should play it more often and the game will make more sense. but ok.

 

[Cweener]

You right, and wrong.
Your not the one who has to reply,
and you're wrong about playing it once and writing a review.

If I was just a user in Battle.Net who saw this hosted, and played it once, I would probably never play it again, when I saw it hosted, because it didn't make sense to me the first time.
I have since played it again, and understand it now, but that doesn't change the fact that it just doesn't make much sense the first time around.
If I was super nooby it still wouldn't make sense to me.

Also, try using correct grammar and spelling next time.
I'm a grammar NAZI for the record, and probably am inclined to not take you as serious as someone who uses correct grammar.

 

[jk2pach]

That's why on the dedicated board I asked people to help to fix all sentences xD

 

[Cweener]

Well, you're fine, he was just making an invalid point.

I also know all of your mistakes are grammar related, which I'm assuming is due to the fact that English is not your native language, but his mistakes are things like "srsly" instead of "seriously". Just an unnecessary shortening of words.

 

[Ranger21]

This map reminds me mine map, but this map created with more love and artistic things. Great job. I wish i could make mine map like this, but i prefer to stick with "arcade gameplay", which most wc3 maps have.

And this is bad ;D

 

[assmokey]

hi i just registred to tell you this: I LOVED THIS MAP but there was few things that annoyed me:
- spelling (orthographe )
- we got lost during missions due to no guide at all
- the spawns, i liked them but the rest said they were too much for too long but now i kinda agree
- some skills are bugged
"other than that" this is an excellent map 99/100
cheers on the ideas man!

EDIT: i forgot to rate
oh and the items man can you make a smoother system and higher levels?
(example: 1st aid kit+1st aid kit+1st aid kit= lvl3 item instead of 1st aid kit+1st aid kit+1st aid kit+1st aid kit)

 

[Cweener]

How's the map coming along? Have any changes been made?

 

[jk2pach]

Since your review, I already uploaded 2 new versions.
(You rated 1.11 I think, now it's 1.13, and I will release 1.14 in 48 hours I guess).

There is the update log since u rated map.

Log

>>1.13
Systems and Gameplay
-Interface system: -report now show the kills requirement to get 1 experience point.
-Bug fixed: Hero selection: no more experience glitch with the required amount of kills to get experience points when the hero is forced to be picked

Balance and Abilities
-Game: Hero selection: time to pick hero increased from 60 to 120 seconds
-Game: chance to get creeps Air unit waves raised from 5% to 15%
-Quest: Q24: Vortex Assaut: now check the global amount of creeps before spawning Mutation Gamma
-Quest: Q24: Spore Replication: now check the global amount of creeps before spawning Parasites
-Quest: Q27: Cocoons: now check the global amount of creeps before spawning Mutation Delta
-Unit: new hero: Marine Leader (an idea of Captain_Keyes)
-Unit: GW-Cyclone: inventory removed
-Unit: GW-Fury: inventory removed
-Unit: Mutation Omicron: health raised from 750 to 1500
-Ability: Force Recon: Camouflage: invisibility delay reduced from 6 to 5 seconds and increase quest ping duration
-Ability: Mecanist: Radar: Nearby Discovering: cooldown reduced from 5 to 10 seconds, range increased from 5000 to 7500 and mana cost reduced from 15 to 5
-Bug fixed: Force Recon: Activate Primary Radar Structure should no longer display wrong message about experience earned each time a radar is activated (was due to a boolean Filter which returned false, picking only one radar during initialization
-Bug fixed: Force Recon: Camouflage: should work now
-Bug fixed: Force Recon: Designate: now order only the appropriate NPC to attack the target
-Bug fixed: Polyvalent Sniper: Laser Designator: now order only the appropriate NPC to attack the target
-Bug fixed: Tactical Controler: Designate: now order only the appropriate NPC to attack the target

Map Design
-Bug fixed: Tactical Controler:Artillery Command: tooltips fixed

>>1.12
Systems and Gameplay
-System changed: Hero death system: now all units of a dead hero/living player are killed
-System changed: Leaderboard: now the ranks are displayed with short names

Balance and Abilities
-Game: new game mode: Pure Survival mode (including Q28/Q29/Q30/Q31, each one being a creeps wave)
-Game: Hero experience: required points to get the next level factor reduced from 1.25 to 1
-Game: equipment box chance to spawn permanent item raised from 25% to 50% per global chance to spawn item
-Quest: new quest added: The worst Pilot
-Quest: Q16 Antilles: wait time on each way points raised from 5 to 10 seconds
-Quest: Q24 Vortex Assaut: spawn rate of Gamma Mutation decreased from 3 to 6 seconds
-Unit: Apocalypse: health raised from 40000 to 80000; can no more be pushed
-Unit: AW-Conquest Nova: health points decreased from 700 to 500 and mai attack AOE from 150 to 50
-Unit: Creeps: all ranged units+boss can now target air units.
-Unit: Villager units: now have a little attack to be normally targeted by creeps
-Ability: Crouch is renamed Crawl; chance to deal 2 times the normal damage raised from 10% to 20%
-Ability: Firebat: Burst Fire: instant damage part raised from 50/100/150/200/250/300 to 250/500/750/1000/1250/1500
-Ability: Force Recon: Activate Primary Radar Tower: mana cost reduced from 50 to 40
-Ability: Nightvision: sight range bonus raised from 600 to 900
-Ability: Polyvalent Sniper: Chopper Support: now the chopper is spawned at the Airfield
-Item: Satchel: mana cost removed
-Bug fixed: all convoy quests: path reached activate new creeps spawn points
-Bug fixed: Q10 Dance of the Frogs: now runs the good quests when it is finished/failed
-Bug fixed: Q24 Vortex Assaut: now runs the Q6Varun and no more Chapter II
-Bug fixed: Force Recon: MechScout Program: no more spawns a chopper
-Bug fixed: Polyvalent Sniper: Railgun: should deal damage now.

Map Design
-Model: changed the model of projectile for AW-ConquestNova
-Model: changed the model of Class Pick
-Model: added a brown glow on important friendly units
-Interface: Players now have the "night elve" interface which better suits than human one for Marine games.
-Texture: Nightvision brightness increased
-Text: added more text in "Story system".
-Terrain: some minor terrain changes (design, more doodads etc.)

 

[Cweener]

good lord, I've missed a lot . I'll re-review sometime today or tomorrow

 

[Yahtzeepwnsu]

Heya got some bugs for you, you probably know about them already but here they are:
I played with the super survival mode with the Marine Leader and encountered a few bugs.

- I only had to skill the book once to get all skills.
- There is no limit on the ''call in reinforcements''-skill in the book
- I like the idea of the Orbital Strike but I think the aoe radius of that thing is too large. some idiot in the game (I suppose it was me) killed everyone just to try it out ^^. you might reduce the area of effect a bit.
- The clones can still attack even though the original hero doesn't have any bullets left. Computers will notice and attack the real hero dooooh.
- Clone level 6 doesn't work.

I also think the first wave of the survival thing is a bit easy. It's easier than the first few quests of the normal mode.
Just completed wave 1 - 109 xp *how did you get this random number and it's rather low don't you think?*

PS. I miss the bridges;<

 

[jk2pach]

Marine Leader: already fixed for next version (u are still welcomed on the board http://jk2pach.1fr1.net )
Clone removed (not compatible with ammo/hero death systems) and replaced by a defibrilation like biologist with longer cooldown (240s instead of 120s).
Reinforcements: cast a new wave make the old wave belongs to the AI player (dark green).

Survival: noted. I need to test it (never played it online).
109xp = 100 base xp + % due to the survival mode.

 

[Yahtzeepwnsu]

Everytime I click your link I get redirected to... this forum...
Am I doing something wrong? ^^

 

[manzman]

Sounds fun, ill try it.

 

[Rodny]

I just had a strange idea for a boss..... A boss that you can only see when he attacks you or when your using the night vision goggles. Don't you think its a good boss?

 

[rhadamant]

This is awesome and JK is awesome.

 

[kennnny]

YOUR MOTHER IS A WHORE, ap0calypse, AND READ THIS YOU FAG!
YOUR MOTHER HAS HIV! I SHIT ON YOU!

 

[isuckatmapmaking]

When I try to open it it says something like "application encountered critical error"... Pity I can't try the map out

 

[jk2pach]

The map is optimized. You can not open it, only play it.

If you want triggers / models, go on the forum, there are open sources =]

 

[Cweener]

Review Time #24 {RE-Review of #24}

Other review was taken down.
This is the current review and it will stand unless I am asked to create another.

RE-Review of # 24

Rating System (in weener points:)

1-10 Originality
1-10 Replayability (discounted for most cinematics*)
1-10 Triggering (discounted for protected maps*)
1-10 Terraining
1-10 Object Managing (custom items and destructibles etc...)
1-10 Spells (if applies**)
1-10 Description (On THW and In-game (Loading Screen and information))
1-15 Engaging a.k.a. fun to play
1-15 Misc (size, system implementation, laginess etc...)
-100 or +100 for abiding by THW rules.
_{* = when one is discounted then other sections maximums are raised, and those sections are judged harder (if your map applies then it will show you what i raised later)
** = some maps dont really need spells so this section is discounted and given an automatic 10.}

Rating System Scores

Less than 100 = FF- (Reported, You clearly didnt abide by all of the posting rules, and i have reported you for (not) doing so.)
100-150 Points = F- (Rancid and Needs major work. Vote for Rejection and no +rep.)
151-160 Points = F (Bad and Needs work. vote for Rejection and no +rep.)
161-170 Points = D (Below Average and Needs much updating. has potential. vote for rejection and no +rep.)
171-180 Points = C (Okay but Needs updates. has potential. vote for rejection* and no +rep.)
181-190 Points = B (Good but still not reaching full potential vote for approval and +rep)
191-199 Points = A (Great and probably has reached full potential**. good job. vote for approval and +rep.)
200 Points = A+ (Amazing, you did everything right and went all out, approval and +rep)
_{* = depending on the map really, and what categories it scored low in
** = not always but most cases.}

Restricted Complex 601 1.17

_{Triggering scores not available, so other maximums were raised(see rating system*)}

1-11 Originality *10* I now see that this map is very original in many ways after playing through it.
1-11 Replayability *9* Even has save/load option, but bug #2 took off a point here.
1-11 Terraining *9* Needs more doodads, and bug #1 should be fixed.
1-11 Object Managing *10* Excellent work, of what I was able to see before bug #2
1-11 Spells *10* Bugfree as far as I could tell...
1-11 Description *10* win.
1-17 Engaging *16* Requires you to stay engaged or you lose.
1-17 Misc *15* Size was fine for a map with this many imports.
-100 or 100 Rules *100*
0-200 All-in-all *189* B (Good but still not reaching full potential vote for approval and +rep)

Author's Note,
This map was great, I liked the concept and execution. I myself have never been able to do filters, so if you wanna show me how, I wouldn't mind ;P
Also, I sent this review to ap0c, so he can decide to approve/reject.

Bugs I found

Bugs:
1) not really a "bug" but it affected your terrain score by half a point.
Where the old metal bridge used to be in the beginning(where ramp is now). The ramp opposite from the side we start has "terrain leaks" meaning the black is being showed.

2) All tooltips disappeared after I received the first quest...:/ (see screenshots attached)

Recommendations

Recommendations:
Keep up the new ideas and good work.

Likes&Dislikes

[Liked]
There is too much too say about what I liked, but I will point out that specifically I really liked the night vision and used it quite a bit now.


[Didn't like]
the "bugs"

If any map I've reviewed has been updated, feel free the ask me to re-review it. or if I haven't reviewed YOUR map, feel free to ask me.

 

[jk2pach]

About the tooltips bug:
Its a probleme due to cinematic filters. Most time it disappear on the end of fade filter.
Terrain: I will try to change it.

Thanks a lot for reviewed the map again.

 

[Cweener]

No problem.
I love reviewing maps.

 

[im-a-samurai]

hey jk2 can i be a beta tester?
btw this game is seriusly awsome


and could you please make some better unit skins for the humans and the heroes we chose ? make them look like real marines?

 

[jk2pach]

Thanks.

For suggestions, you are welcome on http://jk2pach.1fr1.net

Skins/models: maybe later, it will depend if a great man I requested to join RC601 project comes or not.

 

[im-a-samurai]

can you do so all heroes can switch from their normal weapon to knife and back?

and make mechanist able to make satchels/barricades too
and please make the barricades like this
barricade: no timed life. 350 or 400 hp.
its very annoying that the barricades have timed life.

and make some weapons for ex mp5 for mechanist and m4a1 for security and a sniper for commander just as a ex the items could give more attack speed and damage.

and engineer should be able to make a max of 3 sentrys and 15 barricades.


and i got a class request too btw
hero name: Raven
attack speed:very fast
damage: 67-79
armor:0
hp:354

Active Ability: Satalite strike:damage 6550. range 1200. cooldown 3 min

active ability: call a helicopter or a marine commander. cooldown 1:30 mins. able to get at level 6:

lonewolf a skill that have these abilitys in
passive ability: critical strike: level 1:
passive ability: view all of map. level 4:
Passive ability:invisible (still invisible while moving) he only gets visible wen he picks up an item or attacks able to get at level 3.

i cant come on any other spells for him


i hope you like the ideas

 

[jk2pach]

I'm sorry, but Hero proposal topic is closed (if you look on http://jk2pach.1fr1.net !).


Timed barricade; I will see ingame. But how the hell you already have Commander with the experience you had yesterday ?
More, If barricade do not have lifetime, player will block the creeps pathing without any limits.

Securities: maybe later. I need to find something which is compatible with the weapon system, and, at the moment, adding 'Abun' (orc bunker that removes attack) again will fail the system.

Sentries: not at all. Its balanced now. On former version it has unlimited sentries, and it was unfair. 1 is really enough.

Knife mode: I do not want it. It's quite simple to do like in NOTD-AM (add a Immolation skill), but I do not want it. I want the reload time of the weapons a critical moment for Heroes.

Satchels for mechanist: never. It's already really easy to find satchels and to seal caves however there is no Demolition Expert (who has satchel and the command to set satchel explosion delay) on the game.

 

[im-a-samurai]

i dont have commander i died and asked a freind to share units and he did so i saw all hes skills and the barricades had timed life.

and you can just make the barricades damage enemys 1-1 and make it have a attack range of 100 so they could start attanking the barricades?

i only got 3000 or 3500 exp
and you need some more heroes try make some new i like games wit alot heroes to choose and i know the only hard ting is to find/make some spells for them but i believe you can do it .

but knife mode wasnt to copy notd at all it just fits in a zombie survival game..
and seriusly why not 2-3 sentrys for engineer max it doesnt have to be unlimited lol

and can you give the helicopter ability to land? so it can load up 2 or 4 units?

and make a bonus rescue mission were you can rescue some marines and get the control of them plz

and can i get admin on your bot btw?

oh and tell me if i come wit too many ideas xD

 

[jk2pach]

For bot admin etc. Register on the board

I have not enough time to work on the map, and more less to answer on several websites, sorry.

 

[Rodny]

omfg... *Hugs jk2pach* I LOVE YOU.

(If you haven't gotten why the reduction of ranks ofc)

 

[kidsoulex]

On quest tree it says
Q35->Q46 but there isnt Q46 just Q36(its on chapter 1)

 

[jk2pach]

Right. I will modify it as soon as possible Thanks.

 

[legionofwa]

nice job on the map jk2 one thing im wondering is why remove the parasite spores vision on the map if you jsut happen to run over them if thats not what the change log means im sorry i misunderstond your meaning. i was wondering why the little goblin things for the machnist hurt buildings when they explode.

 

[camuzcado]

Wow, it's a very good survivor game.
I think that I got a bug: The Mechanics got a abillity to "summon" a GW-fury (cyclone, whatever), this abillity works perfectly, BUT, the GW, when switched to the Minigun the reload instead of 400, the max mana of GW, it just reload 30, the max mana of GW in Cannon mode, it's bad because the reload take a long time and the Cannon don't are effective against little/medium monsters (zombies u.U)

I liked too much the rank system, it really increase the motivation to play the game again ^^

 

[hellraiser22]

its a very well game, but i found a rare thing, when i played with friends online, all the zombies didnt move in the south of middle base, without moving and they stack. that happens in chapter 3. and the ranks lowled are nice, thanks

 

[alexmantor]

dunno what happened but so many mobs screwed this map... before I played this with 5 friends and we could not even reach the chapter 3 and I mean recon sniper mecha etc, but was fun cuz the average points in each round was 300 or more. but now there is bosses each 3 mins and mobs everywhere we can't even finish the first chapter boxes are bugged and WTF TWO GIANT PUDGES AT BEGGINING!?... I used to love this map...

 

[SanD3R]

greate survival map!
thx jk2pach
i have 4000 pts

 

[Rodny]

Alexmantor. The trick with the Force Recon... is to build up some good items as fast as possible. Then use your robot the frog one to make items for you teammates. Oh. And to kill bosses alone and easily use your robots as bait and then use a satchel right as the boss is coming.

 

[alexmantor]

wow dude I've reached 10000 points the game couldn't be more cool!! the only crappy thing are the soldier models they're reapeated and booring...

 

[Ranger21]

How you update your map so often?

 

[Cweener]

He works hard. ?

 

[jk2pach]

@alexmantor actually marines do not have the same models
@Ranger21: well. I had some time. It will change now, I have a thesis to write

 

[Hugomath]

Wow, it's a very good survivor game.
I think that I got a bug: The Mechanics got a abillity to "summon" a GW-fury (cyclone, whatever), this abillity works perfectly, BUT, the GW, when switched to the Minigun the reload instead of 400, the max mana of GW, it just reload 30, the max mana of GW in Cannon mode, it's bad because the reload take a long time and the Cannon don't are effective against little/medium monsters (zombies u.U)

I liked too much the rank system, it really increase the motivation to play the game again ^^

That's true. Same thing happened to me(oh wait, I was playing with camuzcado :O). Anyways... love this map

 

[Ischaldirh]

So this map looks great, very promising. However, I can't seem to play it. About two or three minutes into each game, I abruptly drop (or, if I'm hosting, everyone else drops). No other map does this to me. Does anyone have any suggestions?

 

[alexmantor]

lol I'm still playing the 1.34 version the newest one has too many mobs that comes from everywhere!... the new chars are not enough reasons to play it. why you don't just update the game without make it harder each time? I have 15000 points by the way

 

[jk2pach]

Because I do not want this map to be easy:]

 

[alexmantor]

mmm you play your own map? because if you do and you get 1000 ponts average in the new version is because all the players have high ranks and know how to play... however everyone here sucks and I'm the only one who like the map and others who did like too are not playing anymore cuz the low point rate ...by the way I have 16000 points by playing the 1.34 and I would like you tell me how tu survive at least the first chapter in the 1.46 version

 

[jk2pach]

You are outdated then. Average player xp is over 20K from regular players. They are lot of game played on 1.40+ since a second bot has been added by the Us East clan AIS, more than my own bot.

To survive, play with your team. This is not a Resident Evil map (basic survival mode could be considered like this), I want it harder. It is harder. And playable.

Yes I play it. (with my different nicknames, I play arround 3 games a day, depending on my free time.)

 

[jk2pach]

Now they are 80 different quests (75 without survival mode).

I think it will be okay for a while

 

[4Q.Sylvanas]

hi Jk, i play today the actually version on your Hostbot and
saw that "Flare" by "Cleaning Force" (CgF) doesn't slows.

Rework plz some durations by the Marine Leader
and set the automatically buffrange to 500 or lower.
( a lot of suicide actions, because of that )

and try to fix the automatically monsterfollow to red (playercolor),
in survival mode you can abuse that with recon. (recon can solo survmode)
(pm me on Northrend for more informations)

And why i gain no Xp in Survival, whan all other player left(dead) ? (a little bit unfair for good player)

 

[claudeff]

?

Hello every1, im new to this orpg, and i have a problem. When i started playin with my fr we completed the first mission and saved, but after recreating the game we couldnt load our chars.First we tryed to load before we choose chars, then we tryed after choosin.Ive been lookin 'round the posts here but couldnt find a comment like mine, so if u could tell me, wheres the problem with us loading, ty.

 

[claudeff]

So, will some1 tell me how to load my char lol... i tryed loading before and after choosin char but nothin..
PS:sry for the double post