Restricted Complex 601 3.09

[Moderator]

22:57, 6th Jul 2010
ap0calypse: Approved

25:22, 1st Feb 2011
Cweener: Approved
Highly Recommended - Director's Cut!
Re-reviewed on request.

 

[miq112dk]

Cool map 4/5

 

[Cpt.ZnacK]

This map..... is Cool.. lol one thing though... the missions maybe they can ping the locations lol... terrian is awesome... 4/5

 

[jk2pach]

The board is created (not finished to : @
http://rc601.1fr1.net

 

[EvilForce]

The Best map type i like > > Survival ORPG, But Like Everybody, I Like -save/-load System too will you add it ? it would be good...

 

[jk2pach]

There is already a save/load

 

[Newominus]

This is a good game but you might want to proof read everything you wrote in there. I see some spelling mistakes made. And you might want to make something that tells us how to play the game, such as how to level up (i played for a while but i didn't know how to level).

 

[jk2pach]

I will make a new version with a lot of updates as soon as I have time (since I only released 300 Blast Them, that Stars is not stable etc.)

 

[Eldrazor]

Could we have some gameplay screenshots too, please? The terrain doesn't look really interesting...

 

[jk2pach]

Updated with more screenshots.

Actually, the "terrain" are already gameplay screenshots since they are commands to rotate camera. I go through W3 Editor cause it"s easier to do than in game (in order not to be killed )

Probleme with screenshots: i'm not able to screenshot the bullets: they are too fast.

 

[Hugomath]

Awesome map. Good units,nice terrain,good quests,good gameplay. 4/5

 

[jk2pach]

Thanks a lot.

By the way: at the moment the bot described on the map topic is not activated (I'm waiting for my generous bot renter to do it).

So I use an other bot, used before for my map Stars. So you can play with the bot called stars-host (/whois it). As soon as RC601 bot is on, stars-host will host Stars again.

 

[Rodny]

Hey is there anyreason for it not to save my codes? It constantly says they are from a old versiON or new version!

 

[jk2pach]

oO. I will check this. I have to debug minor other things (5 pickable units at start instead of 10 if all are new players, there will be a probleme)
EDIT
Ok , fixed (and other things to)

RC601 bot is activated; name : RC601

 

[thedarkproject]

Hi there, i played as a Scientist - Biologist and for some reason i couldnt get defibrilate to work - i couldnt target the cross when a hero dies - is that a bug or am i doing something wrong ?, other than that great map 4/5.

 

[jk2pach]

May be a bug. I will check it for the next version

 

[Rodny]

Hey i want to ask one thing... Can you put in a section in witch you tell us what scores the ranks start working? A friend of mine has 330 score and it aint working for him yet... Thank you in advance.

 

[jk2pach]

Hello. I have no time for the website at the moment, this is why :/

TO answer you:

RankName[1] = "Recruit"
RankReq[1] = 0
RankName[2] = "Private"
RankReq[2] = 500
RankName[3] = "Private 2nd Class"
RankReq[3] = 2000
RankName[4] = "Private 1st Class"
RankReq[4] = 5000
RankName[5] = "Corporal"
RankReq[5] = 10000
RankName[6] = "Sergeant"
RankReq[6] = 15000
RankName[7] = "Staff Sergeant"
RankReq[7] = 20000
RankName[8] = "Sergeant 1st Class"
RankReq[8] = 30000
RankName[9] = "First Sergeant"
RankReq[9] = 50000
RankName[10] = "Master Sergeant"
RankReq[10] = 70000
RankName[11] = "Sergeant Major"
RankReq[11] = 100000
RankName[12] = "Command Sergeant Major"
RankReq[12] = 130000
RankName[13] = "2nd Lieutenant"
RankReq[13] = 160000
RankName[14] = "1st Lieutenant"
RankReq[14] = 200000
RankName[15] = "Captain"
RankReq[15] = 200000
RankName[16] = "Major"
RankReq[16] = 250000
RankName[17] = "Lieutenant-Colonel"
RankReq[17] = 300000
RankName[18] = "Colonel"
RankReq[18] = 400000
RankName[19] = "Brigadier-General"
RankReq[19] = 500000
RankName[20] = "Major-General"
RankReq[20] = 600000
RankName[21] = "Lieutenant-General"
RankReq[21] = 700000
RankName[22] = "General"
RankReq[22] = 800000

 

[Rodny]

Erh................................................ You might wanna lower some of em.... Why? Because NO ONE would go to all the trouble to become a general ;-;

 

[ArnaudB]

Well, actually I I don't think they should need to be lowered, you gain quite some exp fast if you play whole games. 500 exp is a bit of pain early on thought.

Btw I got a bug on "rats leaving sinking ship" where 2 out of 3 workers stopped before the ship and wouldn't go on it. I tried killing the 2 remaining as last resort but then we couldn't' progress further...

Also sometime there is just too much allied marines, I found myself alone (all allies death...) and there was like 30 marines with me, no need to do a thing.

Please, precise about the cross and how to revive somewhere because it strains newbies that don't know if they can or can't be revived... and it's somewhat annoying.

Finally, will you look into remove perhaps the weapon and ammo for inventory slot ? Because we can't change them and they still takes 2 slots, which is pretty annoying.


Finally, I wonder why I didn't post that in French on worldedit.free.fr ^_^'

 

[jk2pach]

1-Reduce the hp /armor of the GW Heavy (50%)
2-Team 2 name in player forces: Unexpected Accident: no capital letter and a "l" at the end of the title.
3-Team 1 name: add "601" after Restricted Complex
4-Player brown (11): set the name to "."
5-Separate tooltips in 3 categories like for 300BT
6-rank name are not fully displayed in Mboard: enlarge column
7-ight force field bug: collision size not enough high to prevent unit to walk through
8-houses/military buildings are not mechanics => push effect them
9-GW heavy is not mechanic
10-Raise chance for poison
11-Bug with GW Workers stucked
12-defib: make it to level 3
13-remove npc at the end of quests
14-chapter III is called chapter II
15-defib cant target corpse
16-Quest after Airstrike is a fatal error
17-Kill quest too long
18-Add more damage on creeps (arround 100)
19-Flash causes desynchr
20-Cancellation learn icon wrong

Ty for report man. Those are known bugs in 1.03
Well. Cause our sweet board Worldedit is dead?

 

[ArnaudB]

As I stated in worldedit, the map is currently impossible to play as you die on first wave...

Reduction of ghouls hp is my best recommendation.

 

[jk2pach]

Actually we played 3 games yesterday with same guys and we reached chapter III.

The thing to understand is: prefer jump and run than tank. Creeps damage and health seems okay now. I want the map hard.

But of course balance is needed for most of heroes. I will raise attack rate, for example.

Ah and by the way, you are welcome on the dedicated board where players have started to report bugs and suggestions

http://jk2pach.1fr1.net

 

[ArnaudB]

well we were 5 and we barely could kill ghouls before they get to us... and running isn't always possible...

I know I had firebat but still... the map can be hard but must not discourage newbies or... the popularity will seriously drop...

(on that note, a periodic on current quest emplacement would be good, both here and in 300BT)

 

[Tleno]

Cool, reminds me of NOTD/SWAT...

Do you host it in Europe (Northrend) too? And when?

 

[jk2pach]

The bot hosts on all realms except Asia one, 24/24. Bot name is RC601 (just add him as a friend on Bnet to /whois RC601 and get the current game name); game name format is Restricted Complex - #XXXX where XXXX is the current number.

 

[Tleno]

Okay, got few things to report you about!

When you use sprint ability, it stops your movement! That's bad, you should make so it won't cancel your previous orders!
Also there is tooltip mistake, it seems you forgot to traslate "undead" tooltip from English or German or whateveer language. And that pre-final firebat's ability is passive, not active.

I had more issues but I forgot about the, maybe I'll tell them to you later...

 

[jk2pach]

Okay, got few things to report you about!

When you use sprint ability, it stops your movement! That's bad, you should make so it won't cancel your previous orders!
Also there is tooltip mistake, it seems you forgot to traslate "undead" tooltip from English or German or whateveer language. And that pre-final firebat's ability is passive, not active.

I had more issues but I forgot about the, maybe I'll tell them to you later...

Fixed.

I would appreciate you join us on http://jk2pach.1fr.net, it is easier for me to work from this place, but thanks anyway for the report

 

[Tleno]

Nah, I think I'll stay here...

By the way, also there is an issue with a mission where you have to send pilots to the mech bay. The decription is wrong, it says that you have to go there to wake up the soldiers instead of that you have to protect the pilots that are going there... you should fix that...

 

[RedZack]

Nice a new kind of survival map with crafter/job classes, I gonna test it right now!
I hope its like survival 1.3xx or terrania!

Edit:
Ok I tried the map out, its like notd aftermath... the first mission smees to be the same !
However, its much fun to play, I tried it out with 2 comrades. The first 2 games we were more or less clueless, like how we can revive. But we found out and our third game was a success. We made it to the middle of chapter 2 and earned over 500 xp.
But 1 thing so far did bother me, the sounds of the guns are cheap :/! Especially the Biologist shotgun sounds like a spell. Can you fix that if you have the time?
The quests and classes (as far as I can pick) seem to be well made, just the terrain looks a bit empty, but I guess its not easy to add good looking things to a minimized model map.
Btw why dont you make the terrain destructible, like that trees can be cut by grenades or a firebat?

Anyway, I gonny play that map again as soon as I got time, I wanna reach the next rank, to try out th next rank char!

Approved! 5/5 Stars!

 

[tonyrydland]

Very Genius to rent a bot for us, THANKS rep+

 

[RedZack]

GJ on the fixes of "-Bug fixed: Ammo system: re-added the manual reload on ammos."
I just wanted to report that a comrade got a problem, he died while he was reloading, and after revive, he wasnt able to do the reload and was total usless.. even after we killed him and revived him again, he wasnt able to finish reload.
Thanks for that fix!

 

[Xkalibur]

umm i think you shouldnt make women zombies shoot because then its very imbalanced. and varun is almost unbeatable for security officers(most of em die from his locusts)

 

[RedZack]

Can you please change the sound of the Flash Grenade? Its really a pain for the ears !

 

[Yahtzeepwnsu]

Some bugs in the game

Hello, I've been playing this game for a while now and had alot of fun, but encountered some minor bugs.
- As a Bio, the last bullet of my clip doesn't do any damage, it's there for nothing.
- As a Recon, the stealth doesn't work, dunnow if this is just me or does everyone else have this?
- As a firebat, the last spell in book says that it costs 10 energy, but actually it costs 20 (i don't really care, but it's always nice to have it fixed ^_^)

I hope you read this and try to fix it.
Thank you,
Yahtzeepwnsu...

 

[Yahtzeepwnsu]

Owh and something else... the game is too easy atm.
me and 2 friends are doing this with mech/recon/cleaning force... and it's just too easy, every boss goes down way too fast, we won't die... nothing happens.
Can you maybe implent an ''endless wave of zombie-mode'' after the last boss is down that grants rankxp/is challenging/gives some cooler items.

We also got problems with the items, there is always 1 guy running/flying around looking for boxes for items, we think that the droprate of the items is kind of low / the quality of the items are a bit low.
In a full game till the boss Apocalypse we get max. five 'level 3' items and some crappy level 1 and 2 items. Can you maybe fix that the quality improves for each chapter that we do? it's almost impossible to get a level 4 item for instance +8 armor spaulders (if they exist) if we only get +1 armor spaulders.
Thank you.

 

[muaddib]

fun map to play with, good job

 

[RedZack]

Owh and something else... the game is too easy atm.
me and 2 friends are doing this with mech/recon/cleaning force... and it's just too easy, every boss goes down way too fast, we won't die... nothing happens.

Yes, game difficult should be exponential, much harder with higher rank Heroes.
Especially the higher rank heroes got a pretty wide fire range.

 

[Yahtzeepwnsu]

oi frenchman

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[jk2pach]

xD. Never!

 

[light bolt30]

Theres so many bugs that needs to be fixed, like abusing the Q8 mission; you can spam troops and redo the mission for 50exp.

 

[Yahtzeepwnsu]

Hai

You probably have fixed this but I like to spam on a forum.

- The Polyvalent Sniper's ''Railgun'' didn't work the last time I played with it.
- The Polyvalent Sniper's CHOPPER IS WAY TOO GOOD NERF IT, IT CAN"T BE HIT AND DEALS INSANE DAMAGE... cough cough...
- The last bullet in my clip still doesn't work (did you do this on purpose just to fck me)?
- Force Recon's ''reload -0.5 sec // + 1 bullet''-skill also gives the Nanite aura, I like it.
- Force Recon's stealth doesn't work properly, maybe I just suck.
- Polyvalent Sniper's book skills all have weird names.
- The Firebat's last book skill says that it costs 10 energy, but it costs 20 energy instead............ :O

- Add an 'objective-ping-machine' in the game. cba to fly around looking for crappy spores/liches...
- Remove the vortex thing, it sucks.
- NERF THE CHOPPER
- When nerfed... let the chopper fly to the group from the airbase... there's one already waiting to fly.
- wtb Varun
- nerf the chopper.
- nerf it srsly.
- I'm still waiting for an endless zombie siege mode after Apocalypse is down...
- Give more rankxp when you level up, I can just stay lvl 6 now and get my CHOPPPPEEER and I get tons of xp by killing 1000 mobs... no fun, I want to level up and get like 5-10xp each level ^^

 

[Cweener]

Review Time #24

Review # 24

Rating System (in weener points:)

1-10 Originality
1-10 Replayability (discounted for most cinematics*)
1-10 Triggering (discounted for protected maps*)
1-10 Terraining
1-10 Object Managing (custom items and destructibles etc...)
1-10 Spells (if applies**)
1-10 Description (On THW and In-game (Loading Screen and information))
1-15 Engaging a.k.a. fun to play
1-15 Misc (size, system implementation, laginess etc...)
-100 or +100 for abiding by THW rules.
_{* = when one is discounted then other sections maximums are raised, and those sections are judged harder (if your map applies then it will show you what i raised later)
** = some maps dont really need spells so this section is discounted and given an automatic 10.}

Rating System Scores

Less than 100 = FF- (Reported, You clearly didnt abide by all of the posting rules, and i have reported you for (not) doing so.)
100-150 Points = F- (Rancid and Needs major work. Vote for Rejection and no +rep.)
151-160 Points = F (Bad and Needs work. vote for Rejection and no +rep.)
161-170 Points = D (Below Average and Needs much updating. has potential. vote for rejection and no +rep.)
171-180 Points = C (Okay but Needs updates. has potential. vote for rejection* and no +rep.)
181-190 Points = B (Good but still not reaching full potential vote for approval but no +rep)
191-199 Points = A (Great and probably has reached full potential**. good job. vote for approval and +rep.)
200 Points = A+ (Amazing, you did everything right and went all out, approval and +rep)
_{* = depending on the map really, and what categories it scored low in
** = not always but most cases.}

Restricted Complex 601 1.11

_{Triggering scores not available, so other maximums were raised(see rating system*)}

1-11 Originality *7* while this map has unique aspects, it's main concept has been done on occasion. and zombies... >.>
1-11 Replayability *6* I didn't understand WTH was going on.
1-11 Terraining *3* Needs more doodads. Metal bridge in the middle of woods?
1-11 Object Managing *10* Plenty of work I suppose
1-11 Spells *10* Bugfree as far as I could tell...
1-11 Description *10* win.
1-17 Engaging *5*ehh.
1-17 Misc *6* Size was large, systems made no sense to me...Like picking a hero, but all except two are grayed out...
-100 or 100 Rules *100*
0-200 All-in-all *157* F (Bad and Needs work. vote for Rejection and no +rep.)

Author's Note,
This map was great, I liked the concept and execution. There were many many things I didn't like however.

Bugs I found

Bugs:
none that I found...I think...

Recommendations

Recommendations:
Fix my dislikes. :/

Likes&Dislikes

[Liked]
Concept,
Execution (kinda)


[Didn't like]
Terrain
Those Abilities in that spellbook, like jump...
Jump was bad.
Night vision...sucked. just made it green. (period)
crouch was not even crouching...it was laying down.
how I had no fucking idea what the hell was going on?

If any map I've reviewed has been updated, feel free the ask me to re-review it. or if I haven't reviewed YOUR map, feel free to ask me.

 

[ap0calypse]

1-17 Misc *6* Size was large, systems made no sense to me...Like picking a hero, but all except two are grayed out...

I can answer this one though: you need to get experience points to get multiple heroes.
If you pick the first or second hero in multiplayer, you can get some exp and then, when you restart the game, you can pick other heroes based on your exp.

 

[jk2pach]

@Yahtzeepwnsu: i quoted u on the good board (jk2pach.1fr1.net, the one you are registered, rc601.1fr1.net is an old one ); i will work from there.

@Cweener: Thanks for the review, I like it!

I allow myself to comment what you said:
Terrain=>this mean I need more doodads; I will also remove bridges.
Jump was bad.=>If i call it "assisted jump" cause of some technology, would it suit better?
Those Abilities in that spellbook, like jump...=>What is the probleme?
Night vision...sucked. just made it green. (period)=>what do you mean with period? It is green, isn'it?
crouch was not even crouching...it was laying down.:=>If i name it "crawl" it is ok?
how I had no fucking idea what the hell was going on?=>I need to develop the story system. But what do you need to know? Story? Background? Quests? I'm not sure to undertand what you said.

EDIT
Oh, by the way, metal bridges; I do not understand; after all, why would not have human built bridges?

@ap0calypse: yeah, you are right: it works like an ORPG for this.

 

[Cweener]

@ap0c Thanks for clearing that up with me

what do you mean with period? It is green, isn'it?

Night vision should turn it green sure, but maybe add reveal more, because it just looks like you put a green filter over the standard wc3 camera.

If i name it "crawl" it is ok?

yes crawl would be more informative, the only difference is really in the rate that you can move in a crawl vs a crouch,

I need to develop the story system. But what do you need to know? Story? Background? Quests? I'm not sure to undertand what you said.

Like, I went into the game, and then me and my other testing friends simply said okay now what?

What is the probleme?

I didn't understand the purpose of jump tbh.

I will also remove bridges.

You don't nessecarily need to remove the bridges, just give them more natural feels...

 

[jk2pach]

Thanks for such a report again

So: Jump allows to fast avoid mass creeps, to jump from a cliff to an other and then gain time against creeps (time for them to follow you on the normal way).

I will change other things.

But once again, I dont understand why metal bridges is a probleme: you can have human structures in any area, can't you?

 

[Cweener]

You can jump from a cliff? see, I didn't know that. Does it say that in the tooltip?

The bridge I suppose you could leave, it didn't hurt your score, it just didn't appeal to me I suppose.

 

[jk2pach]

And about terrain itself? What you mean with more doodads? You think they are no various? There are lack of things in the screen?