Question (especially for moderators)

[T. D. W.]

Why don't you like so much dota, i just want to know what you, users and moderators hate so much about dota ?

 

[GreeN!X]

I think users here don't "Hate" dota.. they just don't like to see the same maps with small changes appearing here and there.. Clones as I call it.. There are a lot of newbies that use dota templates to make their own crap copies.. DOTa has also killed the creativity of most new map editors because they thing only dota style can be made in the editor / dota stuff is the easiest to make.. a Dota based map can be accepted here.. it just needs a lot of changes..

 

[T. D. W.]

Thx for reply, and for dota based maps that can be accepted, my map got accepted and i think was going to be rejected because orcnet said in his comment that it is with extended stuff and remake of the entire map layout so i think I was at a "hair" to be rejected

 

[SA Dashie]

Not so much hate, although just that your only aloud to submit your maps to the map section or an edited or not edited version with the owners permission.

Dota would probably be accepted if submitted by the real owner.
Although there are ways to tell if faked.

 

[T. D. W.]

Not so much hate, although just that your only aloud to submit your maps to the map section or an edited or not edited version with the owners permission.

Dota would probably be accepted if submitted by the real owner.
Although there are ways to tell if faked.

Umm i changed the word "hate" and can you tell what are the ways?

 

[SA Dashie]

Usually the users of this site like to see something original and fun to experience. Not something that is recreated from a map that already has an official and well run website(or even anything close) with the back up of most people already enjoy the original version a lot considering it's many features and time spent on it that is proven.

If you want to do a remake of Dota and would like it to get liked I would suggest creating the terrain from scratch first.
Alot of makes of Dota have already been made. If you want to actually get positive feedback being as original as you can is always helpful.

 

[Almia]

We don't much hate it.

We don't want people here to loose their uniqueness and creativity by copying an old AoS map and demand some spells across the site.

They will learn stealing and deprotecting, which is illegal in this site.

We are preventing people not to be a thief, but we want them to create unique and creative ideas so that people would like them.

 

[T. D. W.]

We don't much hate it.

We don't want people here to loose their uniqueness and creativity by copying an old AoS map and demand some spells across the site.

They will learn stealing and deprotecting, which is illegal in this site.

We are preventing people not to be a thief, but we want them to create unique and creative ideas so that people would like them.

You want something really unique....

idea

Warcraft Run> Temple Run in Warcraft

 

[Almia]

Not that unique.

 

[T. D. W.]

-_- have you ever seen a temple run map here?

 

[Almia]

No. And i don't want to see one.

 

[T. D. W.]

XD yeah i know it is weird

 

[SA Dashie]

Just because it hasn't been made in Wc3, doesn't mean that it is a good idea to make it so. >.>

 

[T. D. W.]

I didn't say it is a good idea, i only said that it is unique

 

[Daffa]

Me, personally don't hate DotA, but I don't like it when it comes to DotA Clones, well, unless its a self-made DotA.

We don't much hate it.

We don't want people here to loose their uniqueness and creativity by copying an old AoS map and demand some spells across the site.

They will learn stealing and deprotecting, which is illegal in this site.

We are preventing people not to be a thief, but we want them to create unique and creative ideas so that people would like them.

Yes, I agree on this one. I ever went to some places for Warcraft Maps and I usually saw kinda these words :

1. Where can I find Unprotected DotA maps?
2. Can anybody Unprotected a DotA maps?
Etc... Stuff like that.

How bout we make our own style of map and gameplay, if you're intelligent enough of how to use WE why don't you start making your own precious Project, which maybe never ever existed

idea

Warcraft Run> Temple Run in Warcraft

Now this one is a good idea (but I would like it more if it's inspired from 2 or more games)
I might enjoy this one

 

[T. D. W.]

Actually, this thread made me think about my "dota"
Map and it turned like this:
it is currently in 1.02, 1.03 will be the last one similar to dota, which means after the version 1.03 i am going to let out the dota idea "there still will be things that canot be changed"

 

[Daffa]

that's a good plan DotCA, you have my full-time support for that!!

While this thread is still alive, you guys might be interested about another DoTA map : Open the Hidden Tag.

Another DotA

are you sure?

Enjoy the View!!

Another Discovery....

 

[T. D. W.]

For the map... Obviously a dota clone "a baby one i think" i will see it later
And for the credits "i'm comparing it to myself" i see lots of people there, i was alone XD

 

[Daffa]

Well, see DotA ruins Creativity, Idea, Uniqueness, Imaginations.

Many people think they can make a better map for DotA (Me Tootm stated by VGastomi).
Yes, I agree with DotCA, "it's a baby DotA" XD

 

[T. D. W.]

Yes, I see your point "users"

 

[Daffa]

Glad you understand, although I think your DotCA is great, it's kinda different than the normal DotA, it has some neat features and a grand new map

 

[T. D. W.]

Glad you understand, although I think your DotCA is great, it's kinda different than the normal DotA, it has some neat features and a grand new map

Thank you
Btw i would like to know what you mean by neat features

 

[Daffa]

It has tons of New things, like a total remake of DotA itself

 

[T. D. W.]

It has tons of New things, like a total remake of DotA itself

XD you didn't say what i want "i ment specific things that you are talking about

 

[Daffa]

Off-Topic : That is what I'm talking, anyways, I love your DotCA map, but I won't spoil other things about DotCA since its out of topic.

On-Topic : We, Hive Users like new imaginations and creative ideas, that's why most of us don't like DotA clones.

Fun Fact : I don't think any Moderators have come here until now XD

 

[T. D. W.]

That is what I'm talking, anyways, I love your DotCA map, but I won't spoil other things about DotCA since its out of topic.

On-Topic : We, Hive Users like new imaginations and creative ideas, that's why most of us don't like DotA clones.

Yes yes i got the idea

 

[Vengeancekael]

Wait, you edited the current dota?

 

[T. D. W.]

I didn't edited, i created my own dota

 

[Gilles]

DotA is alright, but people stopped playing all the other games. Also I personally didn't like a lot of things about it.

 

[Ralle]

I remember feeling a strong dislike against DotA back when I was working on my Warhammer 40,000 TD map. I did not like it because 90% of maps hosted were DotA. I hated the fact that many people only ever played DotA and never tried anything else. DotA was so extremely popular and I did not think that it deserved the popularity over many other maps which I found superior. I was angry at DotA for being more popular than anything else and I found it to be not very well made. This was my perspective back in back in the day and I still think it's quite valid.
As Almia mentioned, so many DotA maps submitted are just shallow edits of the original map. People add a few new heroes or items and call it a new map. This has happened over and over again and you may get frustrated that people never learn.
This shouldn't hold you back from creating your own DotA inspired map. Just keep in mind that you shouldn't copy DotA. The reason why you're making this map should be because you have quite many ideas as to how to improve the gameplay and make a superior version. Not just try to piggy back on the DotA success.

 

[T. D. W.]

//off topic: when i saw the reply in the email, i said this one took a long time to write this, and when i visited the page i said omg that's Ralle //
And you are right one all the lines