Project that needs anyone experienced in ANY FIELD

[stonneash]

Deserted; Huge Survival Game

Deserted (temporary title)

gameplay:
Setting: a chain of islands in an unknown place

Time: early medieval ages

Plot summary: (Temporary) a shipwreck after a storm leaves one survivor deserted on an unknown island populated by unknown species that have been isolated from the world, the deserted survivor will embark on his mission of going back home which will take him through multiple islands before he is rescued by a boat passing by the last island.

Players: 1

Game type: survival

About the game and us:
The game idea had been in my head for a long time ago, I met 6 people who where capable of helping me to make this idea real. and slowly we invited more people and now we have 18 team members.
The project development is going to start on june
The game might be changed from being a warcraft map into a unity project.

Joining us:
If your interested in helping/joining/supporting in the project starting in the 1st of June contact us by:
-sending me a PM

Team members
Stonneash: 3D artist, external producer, Beta tester
NFwar: Lead 2D artist
Jad: Coder, Beta tester
GunSlinger21: Betatester
Muzzel: lead penguin 2D artist
Other team members either prefer to be anonymous or they aren't from the hive workshop..

What we need:
-Voice actors
-3D Modelers
-2D Artists
-Beta Testers
-Coders
-Designers (we really need designers)
-Sound Engineer
-Music Artists
-Advertising Mangers
-Budget supporters

What we already have:
-Internal producer
-External producer
-3D modelers
-2D artists
-Music Artist
-Voice actors
-Beta testers
-Coders


Updates:
-edited the "gameplay" section
-Added GunSlinger21 as beta tester.
-minor changes. + added "what we already have" section.
-added a list of members who are from the hive workshop.
-Changed the limit of team embers from 30 to unlimited.
-Added more details about the project.
If you have something to say, please be respectful or don't even say it.

 

[LordDz]

Err.. It kinda helps if you say what you're recruiting for.

 

[Zwiebelchen]

dafuq?

 

[bhusta]

You give no infomation and have nothing to show.
You need to have a concept first if you want people to join you.

This is what I did before I searched for members :
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/idea-factory-462/heart-blackest-night-concept-223223/

It is a little overkill and a lot of the presented points have changed, but you need to show a brief direction at least.

Here are also some points:

If your interested in helping in the project starting this summer contact us

Who is us?

What we need:
-Voice actors
-3D Modelers
-2D Artists
-Beta Testers
-Coders
-Designers
-Internal Producer
-Sound Engineer
-Music Artists
-Advertising Manger
-Budget supporters
-Budget Manger (External Producer)

Beta Testers without a beta?
Advertising Manager without having anything to show?
Budget? Do you seriously think someone would consider to join if there is money involved?

If your interested in joining, try :
-contacting by sending me a VM/PM
-Texting me; x-(xxx)-xxx-xxxx

Is that your phone number? That's brave

 

[muzzel]

Dont expect to get any help as long as you dont have anything to show. And since you are looking for help in all positions it looks like you have nothing done yet.

 

[WaterKnight]

What will you do?

 

[stonneash]

You give no infomation and have nothing to show.
You need to have a concept first if you want people to join you.

This is what I did before I searched for members :
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/idea-factory-462/heart-blackest-night-concept-223223/

It is a little overkill and a lot of the presented points have changed, but you need to show a brief direction at least.

Here are also some points:

Who is us?



Beta Testers without a beta?
Advertising Manager without having anything to show?
Budget? Do you seriously think someone would consider to join if there is money involved?




Is that your phone number? That's brave

Who is us?
The team members -_-


Beta Testers without a beta?
We have a beta, but nothing is going to be displayed to the public.. yet

Advertising Manager without having anything to show?
We have a lot to be prepared for when the game is out.
Budget? Do you seriously think someone would consider to join if there is money involved?
Why not? money is involved to make this project even better by buying 3d models and 2d art.

Is that your phone number? That's brave
Yes, but it isn't my personal. well it going to be used for something else now, so its temporary number.

Dont expect to get any help as long as you dont have anything to show. And since you are looking for help in all positions it looks like you have nothing done yet.

I'm not expecting anything, I'm offering a change for people to help , and it doesn't matter since we almost have everyone we need.

What will you do?

If you are interested in knowing and/or helping the project please PM me.


P.S.
Im not expecting any help from anyone. at this point our team doesn't need anyone, but we welcome anyone who is willing to join us.

 

[LordDz]

So.. I'm going to assume you're going to make 3D porno movie. I'm in.

 

[stonneash]

So.. I'm going to assume you're going to make 3D porno movie. I'm in.

I talked to the internal producer, he allowed me to provide the following information:

a RPG about a castaway on an island of monsters.

 

[Frotty]

If you're not interested in what we have to say we're not interested in your stupid project
As simple as that

 

[muzzel]

So.. I'm going to assume you're going to make 3D porno movie. I'm in.

will there be naked female penguins with big boobs?

 

[neo_sluf]

will there be naked female penguins with big boobs?

Penguins have boobs?.. really i haven't seen something like that...

 

[Tal'Rarity]

Well this is a disturbing thread when you look at the last few posts.. lol however...
You should provide some info otherwise why should anyone join unless your recruiting secret agents for an agency.

 

[stonneash]

If you're not interested in what we have to say we're not interested in your stupid project
As simple as that

Please have some respect. I thought I already made it clear that I don't want your opinion if its not going to be useful to the project, and I can't see how you can help this project and you are not welcome to join the team (for being disrepectful) so please leave this thread. thank you

will there be naked female penguins with big boobs?

Is it bad if I say yes? .___. (JK... no boobs but maybe penguins)

Well this is a disturbing thread when you look at the last few posts.. lol however...
You should provide some info otherwise why should anyone join unless your recruiting secret agents for an agency.

The information is private for many reason, but mainly is that our theme is temporary, there is a good change that we are going to change a lot of the designs and ideas.

 

[EdgeOfChaos]

Why do you need many of these positions? Advertising manager, budget supporter, sound engineer.. I mean, even DotA, TKoK, and the other big projects don't have these positions.

I don't think you'll find near the amount of people you need if you want 3-4 people in ALL these positions. Plus many of them can be put into one category.. sound engineer/music creator for example.

I do want to make maps, but tbh I'd want information on what I'm signing up for.

a RPG about a castaway on an island of monsters.

This isn't near enough imo. What will make your game unique/special? How will the gameplay be? It doesn't matter if the theme changes. We would understand if the theme changes later - i'm sure all mapmakers have changed an idea at some time - but something's better than nothing.

 

[WaterKnight]

Since you reject the opinions and hints provided here, maybe you will instead acknowledge the forum rules?

This forum has a sticky stating the requirements for each thread:

Map name
People you are looking for
Name of the creator(s)
Summary of the map gameplay/objectives
Map features

You have stated what positions are needed, not why though. Everything else is missing. Even if there are things that still change, you are expected to tell your initial plan. And why are you even officially recruiting and for so many specific positions when you are unsure what to do?

I also want to raise the question "What will you do?" once again because you search for so many fields and even for 3-4 users each and I do not rarely face users that want to pass most of the tedious work onto others whereas their input is limited to specify the goal. That's not how it works. I would not even be so sure if the involvement of money is permitted, for the simple reason that the process takes place on the back of wc3, which most likely does not belong to you nor are maps up for monetarization.

 

[Zwiebelchen]

Considering they need budget management and professional advertising, this project is going to be for WC3 what Counterstrike was for Half-Life!

Man, what a great day for anyone that still plays WC3 - starting this summer, something HUGE is coming!

It's gonna be so huge that all members had to sign NDAs and work in a secluded desert underground laboratory. It will even make ITER and CERN teams look in awe and change the world we know ... forever!

 

[muzzel]

Yea well, except that you will end up with 20 team members of which 90% are not very motivated because they have no idea what they have signed up for.
The reason why companies advertise jobs is because they are looking for new employees. However they dont want any employees but people who are motivated and enducated/experienced in the field they are going to work on.
Now lets consider a company advertises a job but cant tell what the candidates are going to work on, the obvious result is this:
1. Group:
People who are frustrated and apply for everything or dont give a shit what they are going to do.
(These people will apply for the job)
2. Group:
Skilled candidates which are highly motivated to do the advertised job
(Wont apply)

Do you understand the analogy?

 

[LordDz]

Considering they need budget management and professional advertising, this project is going to be for WC3 what Counterstrike was for Half-Life!

Man, what a great day for anyone that still plays WC3 - starting this summer, something HUGE is coming!

It's gonna be so huge that all members had to sign NDAs and work in a secluded desert underground laboratory. It will even make ITER and CERN teams look in awe and change the world we know ... forever!

Dude you're not stealing the position of the 3D Porn modeller! That position is MINE!

 

[Zwiebelchen]

Dude you're not stealing the position of the 3D Porn modeller! That position is MINE!

Are you a japanese? You can't do 3d porn modelling without being japanese!

 

[LordDz]

Are you a japanese? You can't do 3d porn modelling without being japanese!

I can learn! And don't worry, I'm sure our project leader will help us with information on how he wants the models to look.

 

[Zwiebelchen]

Just make a boob slider. You know... then he can adjust to taste.

 

[stonneash]

Considering they need budget management and professional advertising, this project is going to be for WC3 what Counterstrike was for Half-Life!

Man, what a great day for anyone that still plays WC3 - starting this summer, something HUGE is coming!

It's gonna be so huge that all members had to sign NDAs and work in a secluded desert underground laboratory. It will even make ITER and CERN teams look in awe and change the world we know ... forever!

Most of our team isn't familiar with WC3 (Almost 75%) so we are thinking of changing from a warcraft 3 revolutionary map into making our on game (using unity 3d since almost 90% of our team is familiar with it), its just an opinion by me althought many have agreed to it. well currently have 17 team members and if we mange to get to +21 we are probably going to make a unity 3d game.

Yea well, except that you will end up with 20 team members of which 90% are not very motivated because they have no idea what they have signed up for.
The reason why companies advertise jobs is because they are looking for new employees. However they dont want any employees but people who are motivated and enducated/experienced in the field they are going to work on.
Now lets consider a company advertises a job but cant tell what the candidates are going to work on, the obvious result is this:
1. Group:
People who are frustrated and apply for everything or dont give a shit what they are going to do.
(These people will apply for the job)
2. Group:
Skilled candidates which are highly motivated to do the advertised job
(Wont apply)

Do you understand the analogy?

I can guarantee that our team is highly motivated, we would't accept anyone who is "not very motivated". and when you agree to work with us we don't necessarily tell you everything. we will only tell you the details you need until the beta version(that isn't available to public, only for beta testers). if you're a modeler for characters you will learn about all the creatures and characters in the game. we avoid telling everything because the amount of work to do is intimidating. we are going to set a short goals for each month where we prepare a non public beta version. the artist and coder wouldn't be told anything more than the goal. while the designers, advertisement manger and producers will know everything (i think I talked a little to much about our strategy).

Dude you're not stealing the position of the 3D Porn modeller! That position is MINE!

Your position is always be yours, you are experienced in your field and well motivated and you earned it

Are you a japanese? You can't do 3d porn modelling without being japanese!

Watch us. (JK we have no pornographic content in our project… maybe penguins with boobs .___. )

I can learn! And don't worry, I'm sure our project leader will help us with information on how he wants the models to look.

You will have a newspaper of details for every squared inch of the body.

Just make a boob slider. You know... then he can adjust to taste.

The taste…. ummm not sure how to respond to that so i'll just tell you PENGUINSHIVEMOTOR!!

 

[stonneash]

Updated the thread, added as much details as possible since many people insisted >__<

 

[muzzel]

• Most of our team isn't familiar with WC3 (Almost 75%)
• when you agree to work with us we don't necessarily tell you everything
• we will only tell you the details you need until the beta version
• we avoid telling everything because the amount of work to do is intimidating
• the artist and coder wouldn't be told anything more than the goal

If you really think this is going to work out then you are seriously retarded. Sry, but have you read your post? It sounds like forced labor in a soviet coal mine.

 

[stonneash]

If you really think this is going to work out then you are retarded. Sry, but have you read your post? It sounds like forced labor in a soviet coal mine.

Watch us do it. also you are not required or forced to join, and not anyone is allowed to join only the highly motivated to work that do not mind the circumstances. please have some respect .___. I wouldn't call you retarded for any of ideas or comment even if I disagree.

 

[muzzel]

yea well, my ideas are usually pretty awesome

 

[stonneash]

yea well, my ideas are usually pretty awesome

I know they are. mostly because PENGUINS!

 

[muzzel]

Application:
Name: muzzel
Spezies: Penguin
Apply for: 2d Artist
Working experience: ~2 minutes
Sample of my work: http://peeeq.de/draw.php?id=1257

 

[stonneash]

Application:
Name: muzzel
Spezies: Penguin
Apply for: 2d Artist
Working experience: ~2 minutes
Sample of my work: http://peeeq.de/draw.php?id=1257

How did you do that in 2 min????

We are delighted to offer you the position of being the lead 2D artist…. of doodle penguins.

 

[Dr Super Good]

The controller gets deserted on an island after his ship gets wrecked.

I would like to know how you managed to convince 6 people to help you with a specification description consisting of 12 words. Giving out a little more detail might help entice people to join your project.

 

[stonneash]

I would like to know how you managed to convince 6 people to help you with a specification description consisting of 12 words. Giving out a little more detail might help entice people to join your project.

Well, depending in the spot your intreated in information is given out to you, for example coders have to know almost everything, designers too, while 2D artist and 3D modelers don't need to know much.
when someone is willing to join he is asked many question and he will be accepted (not always) and told information according to whats his spot and how long he is gonna be with the team.

 

[muzzel]

You dont get it, do you? Its not about how much they need to know, but by not letting them in on your plans you show them that you dont trust and value them. This is highly demotivating.

 

[stonneash]

You dont get it, do you? Its not about how much they need to know, but by not letting them in on your plans you show them that you dont trust and value them. This is highly demotivating.

Well they don't really ask me about the plan, and the ones that do i tell them.

 

[Dr Super Good]

Well they don't really ask me about the plan, and the ones that do i tell them.

Wow, most project developers struggle to get a single person even after they spend countless hours writing up minute details and even days making demos. And you just come along saying 12 words and people flock to work for you. I guess it is too much to ask what your secret is?

 

[muzzel]

I guess it is too much to ask what your secret is?

He already told us the secret. Penguins with boobs... who can resist that :>

 

[stonneash]

Wow, most project developers struggle to get a single person even after they spend countless hours writing up minute details and even days making demos. And you just come along saying 12 words and people flock to work for you. I guess it is too much to ask what your secret is?

I PMed +35 people asking them to join, many explained why they can't join while others accepted.
Also I have good connection with 6 friends who joined who also have connections.

He already told us the secret. Penguins with boobs... who can resist that :>

True.

 

[Tanasren]

I post here to see how this ends.

 

[stonneash]

I post here to see how this ends.

Just saying, It's not going to end soon. ._______.

 

[Zwiebelchen]

Wow, I wish I had a skilled member like Muzzel in my team!

I'm just envious, seriously. This is going to be huge. And I see why you need to keep everyone short of intel here; seriously, if you'd let everyone know, it would be very likely they would steal your idea! I mean... it's just brilliant!

Also, I don't get all the criticism here - Motivating members that work for free never was an issue in gaming industry, especially not for indie games. Everyone just lusts for unusual game ideas like this!
And if one seriously needs to know what he is working on, then he just got to grow up. Nobody knows what you're working on nowadays. When I go to work every morning, I'm always thinking "well... I'm gonna click here and there and then ... this dialog shows up and I click it. What does 'radioactive gas' mean? Never mind, just release it." and then I go home, knowing what I did served a greater goal my lowlife brain could not handle anyways.

 

[stonneash]

Wow, I wish I had a skilled member like Muzzel in my team!

I'm just envious, seriously. This is going to be huge. And I see why you need to keep everyone short of intel here; seriously, if you'd let everyone know, it would be very likely they would steal your idea! I mean... it's just brilliant!

Also, I don't get all the criticism here - Motivating members that work for free never was an issue in gaming industry, especially not for indie games. Everyone just lusts for unusual game ideas like this!
And if one seriously needs to know what he is working on, then he just got to grow up. Nobody knows what you're working on nowadays. When I go to work every morning, I'm always thinking "well... I'm gonna click here and there and then ... this dialog shows up and I click it. What does 'radioactive gas' mean? Never mind, just release it." and then I go home, knowing what I did served a greater goal my lowlife brain could not handle anyways.

Wow, I haven't seen support from other members of the hive workshop like you, thank you.
and also we are proud and delighted to have Muzzel as our lead penguin 2D artist and we are thinking of making him the executive lead penguin 2D artist.

 

[muzzel]

im flattered

 

[stonneash]

im flattered

Im not pressuring you or anything but we need you to make more penguins.

 

[muzzel]

still waiting for my first paycheck

 

[stonneash]

still waiting for my first paycheck

Our polices require working with us until we have a budget from the few ways we can get them, then you can get your first pay check.
if you don't be as cooperative we would have to decrease the amount of money.
your current balance:
0.00000000000000000000012% of the payable money.

 

[Zwiebelchen]

I'm still not sure if this thread is troll or serious.

Add random fry picture here.

 

[muzzel]

Yeaaa i want that paycheck now, bitch.
In the meantime il be chillin and icefishin ~

 

[bhusta]

I heard you are still recruiting?

Edit: This one is for free.

 

[stonneash]

I'm still not sure if this thread is troll or serious.

Add random fry picture here.

This serious, but when you can't beat trolls on the thread you have to go with them.

Yeaaa i want that paycheck now, bitch.
In the meantime il be chillin and icefishin ~

Paycheck=Lots of work + few month.
a little work + less than 4 month = Nothing!

Its simple math -_-

I heard you are still recruiting?

Edit: This one is for free.

you would have to talk to muzzel he knows better if we still need a penguin artist.

 

[stonneash]

Bump