Project RPG Invulion, The Idea

[Slaydon]

Okay, i just made a name of the project, its very random and can be changed.

Ive been thinking alot of this and made a notepad .doc, and i want you to give me your opinion, its not done, it needs more, but its something.

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...rpg-invulion-need-members-146761/#post1342190

You start in a snowy wood with no civilization, and you get to a camp with three guards camping, you do quests and have a good time there, until you can move on to the big world, the big world is a big field with a giant castle and cities. There will be a function for pressing the "esc" the function will allow you to change alot of things, this will not be used dialogs, but dummy units and images. Such as changing the camera, look at your quests, and a map feature. Almost everything will be custom in the map, the UI, the systems, the terrain, the doodads and destructibles and ofcourse, units. vJass is a big must, but i know its hard to make a vJass campaign, and 1.24b playable. No leaks or lags is maybe a challenge, but when we get into it, it will just glide in. The map will have alot of areas, like a big city with wandering npcs, big houses and shops, Signs is a must. The concept is maybe Oblivion and Fable, and the graphic will be good. We need no green icons, a pro team of vJassers, Jassers, Terrainers, 2D Icons Creator, 3D Model creator, good GUI'ers if needed, and some sound makers.

 

[X-OMG-X]

Sounds interesting. Good luck with your project.

 

[Slaydon]

thanks, i already know how to create the menu

 

[MultiGod]

"three guards camping" could have a knight as their leader.
You could also make some periodic bandit attacks to the camp, so when one of the soldier dies, you lose.
Damage Detection System would be nice. Item Stacking System too. Also Vote-Kick System.

 

[Slaydon]

Damage Detection system takes no time, just pick all the unit and entering unit in a trigger and make it as an event for another trigger.
I like the knight idea, but im not talking about being on a horse 24/7, he must walk, and sleep and so, Like the bandit attacks, but they musnt be so obvius, maybe a sound like "HELP!" and Goblins.

 

[MultiGod]

Change teh knight to a captain. Maybe add an engine too as a transport from places to places. Teh HELP sound, use the sound when peasent->militia sound(the bell sound).

 

[Slaydon]

heh , i feel you want to join the team?

 

[MultiGod]

im 15% on all the category you said. But i could do some spellmaking(basic GUI).
But if you need ideas, i'm the one.

 

[Slaydon]

Nice,

Bump

 

[Tank-Commander]

I like the idea &
sounds intresting.

Can you give us an idea of what the menus will look like?

 

[Slaydon]

Something like this, just googled a pic, not a giant snake there tho

 

[Mcasdf]

Maybe instead when the knight or the footmen dies, you can talk to the bandits which have made the village their new outpost and you can do quests for them. Basically you can't lose the game, everything that "fails" leads to something else.

Probably impossible to do and very unrealistic but will surely raise the level of this map.

 

[MultiGod]

Nice idea, but I say it'll be pretty hard to make quest branches. But you should make quests source that was obtained in a negative way(such as letting the footman die) should be harder and gives less benefit.

 

[Mcasdf]

Exactly, and doing quests for the bandits will make you hostile to the other races. This will be almost impossible to do in large scale since it will take like years to write all the quests and characters.

 

[Slaydon]

we can make the units much harder, so if 3 guards and you can make it slightly, it will be harder with 2

love the idea tho

 

[Pyramidhe@d]

give us little more description of what you do in the big world. sounds interesting though

 

[Slaydon]

you can ride on a horse, random troll/goblin camp attacks, some quests, hidden treasures, only bonus stuff for making the game easier, example, you use the standard items and doing a quest, but you can go to a camp and possibly find a good treasure, thats much better than your gear, so it gets easier

 

[Adiktuz]

can I ask how to make custom UI?

 

[Slaydon]

Go into Warcraft 3 Viewer, .blp files, UI, and extract n edit, look it up, but not here :d

 

[Adiktuz]

Go into Warcraft 3 Viewer, .blp files, UI, and extract n edit, look it up, but not here :d

okay. tnx

 

[Slaydon]

bump

 

[Pyramidhe@d]

i love this treasure idea.
can horses have like a trampling ability?

 

[Slaydon]

not so sure about that

 

[Billy the Cat]

Some things for an RPG:

Please don't use camera behind the unit (it's ugly D.
Do not overdo Kill x of a Unit Quests.
Please do not make it too overpowered late game, challenges are way more fun as easy battle. I'd rather have less battles take more skill as many mindless hordes of zombies (it's an example) fighting me and getting slaughtered.
Make loading easy.
Make gameplay fluid and not too complex (but keep things customized at the same time).
Keep spells refreshing so that you do not have to finish the whole map with a single set of spells.
Remember: More isn't always better. I'd rather have a few heroes that are fun to play as just a huge set of heroes that feel like normal randomly put together ones.

Sorry it's just that I hardly play any RPGs because I hate using my time for them
Most of the RPGs just leave you with the feeling that you've played many hours just to get an imba unit.

Good luck with the map!

 

[Slaydon]

im just telling you, there will be a camera, and i hate the things you hate aswell, fun and good fights, and the quest thing, bleeh.

But the camera will turn around and will be able to have a vision that you is the unit.

 

[MultiGod]

"icy wood" at start could be blighted forest, mountains, snowy woods, or maybe ashenvale. As bandits won't camp there. Jus a suggestion tho. but...icy woods sounds weird. Change it to snowy woods maybe.

and what other features you'll have in the map?

 

[Slaydon]

Menu system, Inventory system, spells system, movement system(s), camera system(s), chat system(s), as far as ive planned, but the Inventory system have to wait

 

[Billy the Cat]

I'm fine with a camera locked on the unit (from above), but I dislike the cam behind the unit

If you do this just make sure you don't have summons to mess up with.

 

[Slaydon]

hehe, vJass cams fix it all, :3, i will make a doodad detection camera system, or maybe not me, so if it gets inside a doodad, it will be fixed

 

[Billy the Cat]

...and cause motion sickness :C

 

[MultiGod]

This map sounds too cool to be real with that all systems.
could you explain more about the Spell, movement and chat system?

 

[Slaydon]

Hmm, the spells will be only one time click able, meaning you cannot choose target, but we will make a targeting system, very simple. and Movement system is already made, but i think we will need a vJass one for making go backwards, chat system means you use your arrows too choose option, like in oblivion, so if the Unit says, What can do for you, you will see like this:

What can i do for you?

Browse Shop
Nothing, thank you.

and moving will make it highlight

 

[Mr.Goblin]

I call for the story of a Wanderer, A druid, or a hunter. Someone with no real goal, abit like Rexxar, that gets into a chain quest, without asking for it.

Example = there's a Caravan that gets attacked in the snow forest, and because you help them the guy, says go to that guy, he will give you a reward. blablabla.. you get in the village, the village gets, attacked, you become a hero, blablalbalbla... a paladin takes you under his wing, and trains you, you became than the leader of a small group, you have to kill the bandits leader (back in the forest)... blablabla... and it goes on like this

 

[Slaydon]

something like that was it that i thinked.

 

[Mcasdf]

Nice idea Seriously you need to finish this map, don't quit half way I won't forgive you

 

[MultiGod]

Don't say that man. With all the features we asked him to make, this map will be more impossible and impossible meantime.

I like mr.g idea yes, it's pretty nice. But there should be an option where we can say NO. and the quest branches to other places. you see, thiz is only a suggestion.


Some ideas:
- Robbery, where you can rob civilians' houses, but be careful for guards that might catch you.
- Wanted, you did to many robberies and pickpockets(below), you became wanted. Once you got captured, game over.
- Pickpocket, pickpocket wandering civs. Beware of guards.
- Vandalism, where you can break signs, lamp posts, doors etc but you'll be fined if you get caught.
- Disguise, where others will think of someone else when seeing you, so you'll be free.

After a lot of features like that, this map will gonna be like GTA. as mentioned above, above, JUST A SUGGESTION.
Pretty impossible to make in war3 tho.

BTW how's the map goin'?(progress)

 

[Slaydon]

Nice ideas, and the map just started, here is a quick teaser,

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/pastebin.php?id=7ak0d4

Need the game cache, unit information, which we are making, and optionable changes.

EDIT: We will NOT use that Unit

 

[Jacky The turtle]

Invulion Battleground

im think maybe can we make a battleground ONLINE whit save-load system of the of the maps that will be great


Idea for battleGround:
.1: to teams of 4 players
.2: a arena vendor were you need arena points
.3: team mode, single mode and creep mode
.4: tradesystem if players want trade stuff


idea's for creep mode a hero defense
Or a Hero line wars

i hope you like the idea =D

 

[Adiktuz]

ahh. so this is the one you're working on.. good luck!