Project name: Nothing Boring About Borean (not the final name of the map)

[Piwlady]

CODE NAME: NOTHING BORING ABOUT BOREAN
Aka
Demise of the Death God

Idea of map is to choose a character and then start to clear castle full of undead, there are boss fights and loot.
We are developing that you can play map, alone or in group size three players. There is 18 bosses in the castle. There is currently.. err.. 5 or 6 bosses without triggers.
BECAUSE there is so damn many bosses, they are not such epic battles that you could imagine (nothing like in CloudWolf's Diablo 3 map). Boss battles are deadly but they wont last so long and there wont be many phases and blablabla awesome stuff like in some pve maps can have.

We are currently importing and modifying spells to heroes (Don't worry, you are gonna have your name in credits if we use your spell).

The difficulty level of the map is kinda high at the moment without healer. We are trying to balance that part... then we are gonna look at the trash and that kind of stuff bit more when we have time. At the moment, battles are like I have already said, 3 to 7 mobs at time. WoW instance style. I'm dreaming about some massive battles and that kind of things.... but maybe I'm gonna fulfill those dreams in our next pve map... (Yes, we have started to thinking of our next project xD)

I'm imporving the terrain as always when I'm at active mood...

We have probably forgotten the stacking item system, because in my opinon, it's not gonna work. There is some loot what we should do too... At the moment, trash only drops runes (restoration, healing, lesser healing, mana....) but I don't know should they drop anything else because there is shops ( Tomb of Relics ) and bosses drops loot of course...

And we have thinking about the some camera systems... ( just going to change point of view ) just because it's gonna make the map more cooler... ( Yes, we stole idea from CloudWolfs D3 map )

Ressing system is kinda poor atm... (tavern like ress from the cross). We are maybe gonna change that too...

Map's file size is 6.33mb at the moment. It's kinda big but I don't think it's a problem. We don't know are we gonna import anything anymore... so the file size can be changed someday...

So... there was some information...
I hope that did "light up" something.
Just ask if you have something to ask...
I'd like to hear what you are thinking about that stuff... so commets, critics and that kind of stuff please!

There are 12 unique heroes to choose from. With own custom skins and abilities. Four for every primary stat, agility, strength, intelligence.
(These pics are bit old nowadays, so they look bit diffrent atm.)

Heroes

Agility

From left to right:
Ebon Wolf, Eternity Keeper, Demon Ranger, Flame Caller

Inteligence

From left to right:
Princess of the Sea, White, Summoner of the Khoe'marj, Mana Lord

Strength

From left to right:
Abyss Walker, Flesh Render, Forest Wanderer, Frozen Giant

And about terrain --> (there is more screenies all over the thread )

Some screenies

Begining

First Boss

Hall of the 8th Skeletal Division

Hall of Corpses

Library of the Arch Necromancer

Jail

Library before Vampires

Seventh Wife of the Vampire Lord

Room of the Vampire Lord

Hall of Hellfire

Please comment and give ideas to make better map.




-Piwlady&Garshilan-

 

[Bernkastel]

I love it by myself.. Just need to continue making it.. And still need to work on some heroes.. But that part is mostly done.

 

[Piwlady]

Old information
All heroes are complete.
About 70% of map is now completed bosses, triggers and the enviroment.

EDIT: More pics shall be seen soon. In game pics and the even pictures from heroes.

 

[Ale_tuskarr]

...what?...nothing...just...waiting for the map...

 

[Piwlady]

Im sorry but our style to make map, is pretty slow. We give beta version soon as possible.

 

[Bernkastel]

As just we get the terrain and the bossest to the end.. Then the beta version comes.

 

[Piwlady]

UPDATE

The terrain has been chanced to More epic.

I'm sorry for missing new pictures, I guess they will be out next week. When new terrain is completed.

 

[Revolve]

You seriously need a new name. That nme is the name of the WoW Achievment to comeplete 130 quests in Borean Tundra -.-'

-Castle of the Dead
-Caste of -Final Boss name-
-Keep of Doom


Anything like that would be more fitting ^^
Looking forward to see some screenies

 

[Piwlady]

we know, but our heads are really out of ideas, so this is just project name. Screenies will come next week.

It's glad to hear some one is really checking this thread

 

[X-OMG-X]

The project seems to be good, but the terrain could need some more work sorry.
Also some more information could be good. Here is a list of suggestions in the first post:

• What is done
• The heroes
• Maybe their spells too
• Story if there is any
• Why should we play THIS map
• Other information wich could be useful

If you want, you can take a look at my development thread to see what information i give the users. Simply click my signature and you will be taken to the thread.

Good luck with the development and the project. Keep up the good work.

 

[Piwlady]

The project seems to be good, but the terrain could need some more work sorry.

The screenshots what is available is damn old now So no worries, the map looks completely diffrent, it is even more darker looking.

Screenshots from new terrain and heroes will come next week, as I said.

 

[Piwlady]

Yerr!
New screenies will come today about 15:00pm!
Enviroment has been imporved dramatically to darker... more epic!
Also pictures of heroes will be seen!

 

[takakenji]

the name is copied off a WoW achievement, good thingi ts not the final name >_>

anyways, sounds fun

 

[Piwlady]

the name is copied off a WoW achievement, good thingi ts not the final name >_>

anyways, sounds fun

Name of the map was just a joke, cause me and Garshilan haven't invented name yet
I'm glad to hear it sounds fun

But anyway....

UPDATE:

Our epic terrain is now propably completed on old rooms and in some new rooms.

So pictures from new terrain and finally from heroes has been now uploaded to http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/members/173034-albums2304.html

Thanks to all comments

Ps. skills of the heroes will be posted when those are ready, nerfed, buffed.

 

[Piwlady]

UPDATE

Updating of boss fights has started!
Boss fights will be more dificult and more fashionating after this chance...
I'm going to look at heroes at same time...

Trying to make these nearly complete at next week because of i have one week long holiday ahead \o/

I will test the map in dualplayer mode at next weeked, going to test map with "Meter of fun".

 

[Piwlady]

Yeaaah, my holiday has started! That means only one thing.
Making of map will continue more fastly. Only need to wait Garshilan stops slacking >_>

ps. Comments would be nice

 

[Piwlady]

Just perfect!

Garshilan perhaps stopped his slacking. More screenies will come at next week,

 

[Piwlady]

UPDATE

Some nice screenies out.
They are made 100% by my partner, Garshilan.

Hall by Garshilan

Spider Boss by Garshilan

Some kind of plaza by Garshilan


Ps. Pictures before these halls, are now added into first post of this thread.
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...oring-about-borean-not-final-name-map-145384/

 

[Piwlady]

Hall of Hellfire Update

Added enemies to Hall of Hellfire now.

Comments would be still nice...

 

[Piwlady]

Now we have really completed some heroes... here is some...

Summoner of Khoe'marj

Eternity Keeper

Frozen Giant

 

[Bernkastel]

*sigh* Piw.. How many times do i have to say this? It's Keeper.. not Keepper Great work otherwise. There is also typo in Crowd Control.

And people.. Cmon.. Comments would be uber nice

 

[Piwlady]

And even more screenies...

Sewers

Another picture from Jail

Houndmaster in Hall of Hellfire

 

[Bernkastel]

The HELL guys look better in game btw.

 

[Zenerik]

Sounds classic, but looks very cool, though IMO you're using the dark-castle theme a little too much. But if the heroes can light it up as they proceed, it would be very awesome!

The heroes' abilities could have a little bit more of trigger-enhancing.

 

[Bernkastel]

It's nice that you like it. We are working and few trigger spells.. We're kinda new with the spell triggering and we are working with it. We could possibly think about the lighting the castle as the heros proceed sounds kinda interesting idea.
Thank you for your comment!

 

[Piwlady]

Sounds classic, but looks very cool, though IMO you're using the dark-castle theme a little too much. But if the heroes can light it up as they proceed, it would be very awesome!

The heroes' abilities could have a little bit more of trigger-enhancing.

It is pretty dark indeed... I dont think it should be light it up cause it's one castle, full of undead. But we must think... but those are not even in game screenies, so you must wait until you see ingame pictures In my opinon, in game is not so dark as World Editor...

And I agree with that trigget enhancing abilities, it could be nice. But the fact is: I don't know anything about those because they are too complicated for my small mind. But second fact is... those are not even needed, if the map is fun to play without those. But I'm currently working with those and goal is to have even one trigger-enhancing spell to each hero. If I even can do that, I will thank hive with those spells

-Piwlady

 

[TheHunterKiller]

Sounds awesome, and the terrain looks really nice.
When is it finished?

 

[Piwlady]

I guess when it's completed there is lot of things to look at: those spells, nerfs&buffs, boss fights, terrain... and we should complete the map :O we don't know where last boss could be

 

[Piwlady]

Update
Terrain is most likely completed!
Screenies from the END -->

Little bit outdoors before Darkness

Just one kind of room

Portal to the Darkness

In the Darkness

Hall of the Shadow Creature

Walkway of the Darkness

Terrace of the Death God

 

[Piwlady]

Woah! Two more heroes...

Abyss Walker

Demon Ranger

 

[Tozza]

This map looks really cool. Just waiting until its released

 

[Piwlady]

nice to hear that
there is some boss fights and that kind of things to worrie about atm. but nothing what is gonna take too much time

keep on people comments please

 

[VitA.NovA]

wow, thats some smexy terrain you got there. but one thing really bothers me

your tooltips are HORRIBLE, really. horibad, but that isn't a problem. its easy to fix.

this spel has an ultimately long cooldown. isn't correct english. in almost every tooltip. there is a grammatical error.

i can fix it for you guys if you want to.

 

[Piwlady]

wow, thats some smexy terrain you got there. but one thing really bothers me

your tooltips are HORRIBLE, really. horibad, but that isn't a problem. its easy to fix.

this spel has an ultimately long cooldown. isn't correct english. in almost every tooltip. there is a grammatical error.

i can fix it for you guys if you want to.

Thanks, for that terrain part.
And then to the grammar
I know there are typos.. alot of 'em I think that's cause we are both from Finland ( so english is not our native language ) and we aren't yet even passed "junior high school".

And thanks for offer for fixing those, but there are two reasons why you don't need to First, we have grammar fixer already... Second, we wont give the map yet

Thanks for comment all info and critic is only useful

 

[VitA.NovA]

Thanks, for that terrain part.
And then to the grammar
I know there are typos.. alot of 'em I think that's cause we are both from Finland ( so english is not our native language ) and we aren't yet even passed "junior high school".

And thanks for offer for fixing those, but there are two reasons why you don't need to First, we have grammar fixer already... Second, we wont give the map yet

Thanks for comment all info and critic is only useful

, i don't need the map. i can give the correct grammars right here. you can add them if ye want to. English isn't my native tongue either, but im following a bilangual course, consisting 60% of my lessons in english

 

[Piwlady]

hehe, thanks for offer, but we already have the grammar checker as i said already

 

[Goffterdom]

Hey mates!
Just a question: How the fighting gameplay is ? I mean in the map description you say "full of undead". Does it mean there are LOTS of units ? In this case are they each easy to kill ? Its hard to explain my point of view so for example do battles looks like Diablo II or like Warcraft 3 ? (units with 1 in the first case and 600 in the second).

I dont know if you get me?

 

[Piwlady]

That is good question indeed. So... Naah, it's not so "full" that describtion says it is more like WoW instance, about 3-7mob groups, maybe more. We are trying to modify the mobs and that kind of things... but i can say mobs and bosses are pretty hard so it is no easy. We are thinking how we get map balanced, because it is pretty damn hard without pure healer (White) and there is some points, what is just so hard even with healer if you know what i mean.

But i think we are gonna make some places pretty huge encounters.
Like in Rider of Black encounter, when you got his hp to half, he start running, and spawns army of skeletons to after himself.

 

[Tozza]

That sounds great keep up the good work

 

[Lordkoon]

Really nice screenies. One thing I didnt liked. I suggest removing the shiny blue carpet in the Darkness room.
I am also new in mapmaking and am currently working on a similar map but tileset is jungle-like temple.
p.p. what is the map size so far?

In the screen "in the darkness" what is the edited image which you use to make walls totally black?

 

[Piwlady]

Thanks
Ah.. our sexy carpets. The Darkness is realm of the Death God, and the Death God likes his sexy carpets So those so shiny carpets will stay

Map size question is good And i like good Questions.
The map size is 180x148 - playable, 192x160 is full.

But what the hecking edited image, non of those screenies are edited with photoshop or etc. they are... natural, looks like that ingame. ^.-

And Good Luck for your own project use a lot doodads for terrain and make a lot of custom skins

 

[Lordkoon]

Thanks
Ah.. our sexy carpets. The Darkness is realm of the Death God, and the Death God likes his sexy carpets So those so shiny carpets will stay

Map size question is good And i like good Questions.
The map size is 180x148 - playable, 192x160 is full.

But what the hecking edited image, non of those screenies are edited with photoshop or etc. they are... natural, looks like that ingame. ^.-

And Good Luck for your own project use a lot doodads for terrain and make a lot of custom skins

I guess edited image is not the accurate word but anyway its not my native language too. I meant simply how do you make those dark areas that look great in screens. I guess I havent found a tutorial for this.

p.p. I was actually asking for size like in megabytes.
Grats to you for making a not so big map very detailed in spells and characters. I look forward to see some boss fight.

p.p.2 What is the player count in your map?

 

[Piwlady]

You can play map alone, with one friend or two friends, so 1,2 or 3 player map.

No damn idea about those tutorials to make that like, never looked at those
When we started our map, the map did't look so... attractive. We started to imporve terrain with doodads. And I guess we did make some succes
So everything looks like this atm with practice by own.

But the great black is made with smoke smudges, what is huge as hell.
And with using Light.mdx doodad with torches and that kind of things, you can get very nice looking things done

Map size is ultimately big. It is 7mb. Because we uploaded ALL DOODADS from ultimate terraining map. As you can guess, we are deleting those models, often, because there is too much tree,sunken ruins and that kind of models what we don't need... so i think the final map size is going to be like 5.8mb or something.
I know it is very big, but because we have custom skinned nearly everything so...

 

[Revolve]

Lordkoon, about the black stuff, you can just take a flat doodad, like a wall, and then go to Object Edito and set it's Green/blue/red values to 0. Then you'll have a flat black wall.

 

[Piwlady]

Revolve, if you use just black flat, it is doesn't look so smooth on places such that, i mean shadow doesn't go at walls and that kind of things. It looks more Cool when you use smoke smudge ^_^

 

[Lordkoon]

Revolve, if you use just black flat, it is doesn't look so smooth on places such that, i mean shadow doesn't go at walls and that kind of things. It looks more Cool when you use smoke smudge ^_^

Yes I am also using smoke smudge but I have no idea how to make it like diagonal or vertical, not only horisontal. There are some points in the editor that make objects bend. For example if I put a tree on a ledge it will bend to the ground. Probably I can use the same for smoke. I will try it.

 

[Piwlady]

You mean you want to bend smoke smudge like this?

 

[Lordkoon]

and not only. how you do it ?

 

[Piwlady]

file->preference->allow negative values in object editor, then in object editor shift+modify those Art-maximum pitch angle and maximum roll angle, and give there negative value ( for example -1.57)

 

[lightning brigade]

This game reminds me of castlevania. Especially because it's got a vamp at the end.